Wtf i hate tony now??

wtf i hate tony now??

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For this?
I would hate him for killing Christopher

all of them did a lot of messed up shit

I ONLY JUST FINISHED SEASON 5 YOU ABSOLUTE CUNT

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Bad decision, bro. This board is full of miserable cunts who thrive on ruining things that people enjoy... Start binging Season 6 now.

dont worry its not entirely true

Chrissy deserved it 2bh

you can't trust a man that can't trust himself with a drink

>Tony killed Ralphie who literally did nothing wrong

Why do people like this guy again?

TONY DIES

Ralphie killed the horse

all this over some dead hooah

...of a heart attack in 2013

A shotgun did seem a little overkill, I agree.

you have a strange definition of "nothing wrong"

why do you click on a sopranos thread then dumbass?

>muh dead hoower

They all had the misery that ultimately befell them...coming to them...awkward wording, I'll admit, but you know what I mean.

>Tony belches after finishing off the table's order of onion rings, patting AJ on the back and congratulating him for not committing suicide this week

There I spoiled the ending for you OP

you absolute cunt

Don't forget the fucking horse

She was a beautiful, innocent creature!

Christopher's death is one of the coldest fucking things i've ever seen

What happened here? I can't remember.

Tony B whacked some important guys in the New York families (I think it was Phil Leotardo's brother, or cousin or something, I don't remember) so New York wanted to track him down to torture and kill him.

Tony S killed Tony Blundetto both to prove New Jersey wasn't involved and to spare Blundetto a painful death.

This, its your own fucking fault.

Christopher was a complete fuckup that almost got Tony killed at least twice (before when he fucked up the meeting) and could never be Tony's successor, this way just let Tony get out of it without losing face

well he's learned his lesson

Are you kidding me? Glad that little faggot died

Daily reminder that phil leotardo did nothing wrong

Who's death hurt the most?

FUCKIN' SHINE BOX

Bobby's

>miserable cunts who thrive on ruining things that people enjoy
fuck off retard. The show has been off the air for ten years, we have no obligation to spoilter shit within a thread about that show. Stupid fag.

this, such a loyal capo and man enough to stand up for himself

that is totally your fault for clicking a sopranos thread lol

:(((((((((((((

Obligation has nothing to do with it, you fucking asswipe. Any person with even a modicum of awareness would realize that the guy hadn't seen the rest of the show.

The person responding to him realized that fact and decided to post the spoiler anyway, you excuse giving hive-mind cunt. Stop pretending that the response was just in the normal course of conversation. It was intentional. Die in a fire, you dick wart.

True, but spoilers are inevitably mentioned in casual posts. It's generally a bad idea to browse threads of shows you haven't completely seen in my opinion.

Stay safe and don't get spoiled, bro.

What was he shooting at? Was is some 2deep4U bullshit like "shooting at God"?

Mfw Chris's death was spoiled for me when ever they aired the sopranos on USA.

I watched that one part years before watching the series and the whole time I knew what was coming

Chrissy is probably the 2nd most important character of the series
must suck for you

If all the show has to offer is "who dies at the end of season X" then it is a piece of shit. Appreciation of a show like The Sopranos is only enhanced by knowing what is coming. "muh plot" is video games. "muh plot" is pornography.

Jesus I hope you're trolling.

Fuck off back to your plebeian homeboard if you think there is anything wrong with that post. If all you're watching for is "who dies" then this show is wasted on you. You are "Breaking Sup Forumsedditora" by nature no matter how much you try to latch yourself onto a more respected show.

So ur saying you don't want to know that Silvio becomes a vegetable after a botched whack job?

Oh well

how Christopher dies is what's important in the scene, not the fact that he did died. At that point, Tony was bounded to do something about him, or to him, and like I said, Chrissy was the 2nd most important character, It's The Sopranos, not The Moltisantis.
Christophers death was necessary to advance Tony's character arch, prove me wrong.
The finale and Tony's death was all because of his self destructive and patricidal nature (yeah, I know about the theory), and killing Christopher was a monumental step down that path.

Most unforgivable thing Tony ever did was killing Mikey Palmice and we all know that to be true

SHE WAS A BEAUTIFUL CREATURE!

>Any person with even a modicum of awareness would realize that the guy hadn't seen the rest of the show.
That's an enormous leap of logic that only idiots like you would take. For that same exact reasoning I could assume this was his fifth watch-through you fucking dolt. If you're going to make a thread about a 17 year old show and it's your first fucking watch through you may want to take the five seconds to point that out or don't make the thread in the first place. Fuck him and fuck you.

The point is that if foreknowledge of that narrative point would make you enjoy the show less then you have no appreciation for good writing and only want shock value and "suspense"-pornography.

This was stupid. It was obvious Steve Buscemi wanted out of the show or his contract was up.

lol what that guy plotted against him and his whole family in literally every scene

his contract wasn't up because he appeared later you idiot

Yeah, as a guest spot, you moron. He was a movie actor and he had contracts for other projects. His death was abrupt and meaningless like Livia Soprano or Ralphie.

Well, the plot is integeral to its writing, it's not like The Sopranos is True Detective and Tony goes on for hours and hours on some pseudo-philosophic tangents to wrap up all the underlying meanings of everything.
I guess if you want to discredit a whole series for a few decisions, go for it.

lol kill yourself idiot

But he was the most entertaining
imagine if he made it all 5 seasons

nah that's fine the only person tony killed that he shouldn't have was ralphie. loyal top earner who did literally nothing wrong

he didn't kill the horse according to chase

that user was just memeing. Adriana's mom kills Chris

Nah, a guy like that can only last so long. Funny banter with his wife, but Junior and Bobby were Top Tier.

>WHEN I WAS A CHILD, I CAUGHT A FLEETING GLIMPSE

he did a million other things including plotting against Tony while being an insufferable faggot

Why were they so fucking asshurt over Colombus day?

I'd die for The Sopranos and I've literally killed for the Sopranos. It is the greatest work of art I have ever experienced. I wish to discredit all of those who would think the show would be any weaker for knowing character deaths in advance.

"I don't hear you complain when I bring you a fat stack of cash."

like whether tony lives or dies, and what happened to the russian, it doesn't matter whether ralphie killed the horse or not. the point is tony believes ralphie killed the horse. you can see him convincing himself of it in the kitchen scene. it's directly tied to all the shit with ralph's son and starting a scholarship in jackie jr's name. tony does not want to believe someone like ralph is capable of redemption, because then tony would be accountable for his own actions, not just a deterministic victim of his heritage.

if you hate The Sopranos so much, why are you here?

You're being ridiculous. I didn't just start posting here yesterday, faggot. People on this site are extremely unwelcoming to the point that they revel in ruining things for others simply because "Get out new fag."

Don't play stupid, stupid. It has nothing to do with some understood discourse of ongoing dialogue regarding an old show. People here love to ruin shows for others who haven't seen said show and you know it.

youre gay

who cares, he was an insecure manlet who couldnt go 5 minutes without mentioning his time on the inside. loved his death.

OH SHIT!

and correct

Christopher by far, I remember watching it live as a kid and shed some tears.

I agree, the whole story surrounding the deaths whenever there is a death is far better/more interesting than just people dying. I hate this shit so much, Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead are both "Who's gonna die??" shows and it pisses me off beyond words

you're incorrect

"Literally killed for the sopranos"
Holy fuck you're a faggot

why is this board so asshurt when they see a black dude in any movie

>Any person with even a modicum of awareness would realize that the guy hadn't seen the rest of the show.
No, not really. Not when you start off with a meme like that, especially since it's been driven into the ground by now.

The fuck that's got to do with anything? Fucking nigger.

>Watching a show that ended a decade ago
>Go into Sup Forums thread
>Not expecting spoilers

The major theme of the last season is that these characters cannot change, even if they sometimes want to, their nature always draw them back in to the comfort zone of easy money and violent pleasures.

The premiere is about Eugene killing himself because he realizes he cannot leave the mafia. The whole Vito arc is about him trying to get away from this life, but realizing he can't work like a normie, which brings his death. Tony has various psychological breakhroughs about trying to become a better man and has his whole "what if Tony was a civilian?" Kevin Finnerty dream phase, but he always gives in to his sadistic impulses (like when he bullies Janice about her kid and leaves with a big smile) and sociopathic tendencies (which Melfi realizes cannot change and finally drops him). Chris tried to get his shit together, but still ended upfalling off the wagon, which resulted in T murdering him in cold blood.

Tony was delusional. I think Chase always said that what he thought made the show great and different from other shows, is that all the characters are always lying to each other, but mostly are lying to themselves.

Doesn't matter if he actually did or didn't. Tony was looking for an excuse to get rid of Ralphie after the stripper incident. He needed enough shit to outweigh all the money he was bringing in. He also didn't want to do it simply because Silvio and Paulie agreed that he needed to go, because that would make him beholden to his underlings. Pie Oh My getting burned to death was an intensely personal loss for Tony, and he focused the anger into something unrelated that needed to be done.

This is a good way to put the whole show in context bravo user

I agree that it didn't matter whether or not Ralph actually did it, you can tell that Tony was confronting him specifically to see if Ralph would say some shit to set him off, which of course Ralph did. The interesting part was that even though Ralph wasn't guilty it was his sociopathic rationalization of the events that set Tony off.

One of the greatest parts of the show is Chase's ability to build sympathy for characters who clearly don't deserve it, for example in this case because we know that Ralph had nothing to do with the horse being torched but he was also a piece of shit.

I actually didn't write that myself, it was another user in a Sopranos thread ages ago but I like reposting it because it's really good.

Kek

Another good example of this which I forgot until just now is Junior organizing an "illegal" card game at the mental facility, which is of course a sillier, microcosmic emulation of what he got up to when he was younger. But notice how he also chooses to go on medication instead of continue and how his younger friend reacts when Junior doesn't want to do the shenanigans anymore.

One other thing I forgot to mention that I like about the show is its portrayal of psychoanalysis, specifically the long-term inefficacy of talk therapy. This is only something you would pick up if you were intimately familiar with psychotherapy as a discipline. There is an idea called the Dodo Bird Verdict that postulates that all forms of psychotherapy end in equivalent outcomes. Which is to say it's, roughly, a placebo: the positive outcomes brought about by talking to a psychiatrist are not because the psychiatrist is actually solving your problems, but because there are highly positive and therapeutic effects from talking to someone who you believe cares about you and your problems. IE, a friend.

One of the major aspects of the show is that Livia, Tony's mother, is, to put it bluntly, an absolute BPD cunt, and Tony himself displays much of the same behavior although in a masculine manifestation; IE narcissism. This idea, that genes play a rather large part in your life outcome, runs directly against the common modern narrative of nurture over nature, but people nowadays tend to reject it because they don't like the implications.

This isn't meant to be a moral indictment of any of the characters on the show because it's one of the best shows ever made and the characters are fascinating to watch. I'm not even sure if Chase himself is aware of this (he himself has met with a psychiatrist, which was part of the impetus for the show), but it's certainly something to think about.

>Which is to say it's, roughly, a placebo: the positive outcomes brought about by talking to a psychiatrist are not because the psychiatrist is actually solving your problems, but because there are highly positive and therapeutic effects from talking to someone who you believe cares about you and your problems. IE, a friend.

One more thing before I stop babbling, a few interesting scenes brought to mind to flesh out this idea are:

1. The scene where Tony and Chris are in the car and Chris asks Tony if he's ever considered suicide. Both of them refuse to speak what's on their mind and end up laughing it off.

2. The scene where Tony finally admits to Sil, Paulie, and Chris that he's been seeing a psychiatrist. Notice how none of them are comfortable talking about it. Paulie admits that he's seen a shrink, Sil is silent but comments that "During these stressful times, it would be better if we could all talk to each other", and Chris leaves the room, visibly upset that Tony didn't mention it earlier in the car scene.

3. The scene where Sil stays after work in The Bing to talk to Tony about his "problem with authority", and how while it's a large part of what makes him an effective leader, it also causes trouble, IE he just didn't want to take shit from Johnny Sac. Tony brushes him off and tells him that, ultimately, at the end you're alone with it all.

The point I'm trying to make is these scenes of reluctance to be honest with each other are an impetuous to seek private council elsewhere, for example Tony deciding to see a psychiatrist rather than be up front with his consigliere because he might lose face.

>the positive outcomes brought about by talking to a psychiatrist are not because the psychiatrist is actually solving your problems, but because there are highly positive and therapeutic effects from talking to someone who you believe cares about you and your problems. IE, a friend.

Forgot to mention that this is also the same therapeutic effect that Christians cite when they talk about prayer having positive effects in patient recovery. But I'll shut up now, this thread is basically me talking to myself.

I enjoyed what you had to say

did anyone in the sopranos mob family actually give a shit about each other
tony kills chris, chris betrays adriana, paulie and vito don't want to give money to carmela in case tony dies, everyone jumps at the chance to kill vito, and so on and so on

Some of them care about each other but all of them care about themselves more.

the dog
>he must have crawled under there gor warmth
top kek

"Whaddya vegetarian now? Ya eat beef and sausage by the car load!"

christopher was a little faggot. he was lucky he went out the way he did because he deserved far worse

keep it up, this is good discussion.

can someone answer me why Chris killed JT Dolan after he said "Chris, you're in the Mafia!"

Clearly you're a moron because his killing wasn't born out of coldness, without reason. Tony had enough reason to let the fuck-up die. He just accelerated his death, he wouldn't have survived the crash anyway, Tony just made sure.

So, to re-cap: he was already pretty much dead, Tony just made sure. That's not cold. Secondly, he had tons of reasons to let him die because he was a danger due to his fuckups. So that too doesn't make it look cold.

You should just go watch GoT you dumb piece of shit.

>hasn't finished one of the greatest shows of all time that has been off the air for almost a decade
>goes to a board for tv buffs

he was really drunk and pissed off