Which one can make more a team win?

IMO Kante

IMO Kante

You're a fucking retard then that's it You shouldn't give your fucking opinion it's shit that's it Shut your mouth you are an idiot your ideas are stupid you are a retarded person
Don't say what you think that's it

kante or ronaldo.

messi's a greedy little workshy autist. you have to build a whole team revolved around playing to his strengths and negating his weaknesses for it to work . whereas ronaldo and kante could seamlessly slot into any team in the world and immediately make it better.

so to answer the question

1. kanye
2. ronaldo
.
POWER GAP

3. Messi

shut the fuck up you dirty french bastard

this basically

good post

You just went full retard mon frero.

>Kante
>makes teams win
>loses final with France

You are seriously retarded, Jap?

because portugal was too strong

Shut up fucking nigger it was a fluke win you faggots

he didn't play in the final

>can't even convince own manager to play
>makes teams win
Jap is retarded

>when it's not to my liking I call it a fluke win
>Flag
restrict yourself to snowbard or formula1 threads, snownigger

>portugal too strong
>they have Ronaldo
There's your answer

Only reason Barcelona is still 2nd place in la Liga and has any chance to be on the race is because of Messi. Top scorer in the liga.

how does that counteract what i said? the barcelona team has been built around messi for 10 years.

good fucking post

>you have to build a whole team revolved around playing to his strengths and negating his weaknesses for it to work
and Ronaldo isn't like that?

Don't be so retarded

This.

Also, Kanté. The dude single-handedly won a """"""Premier"""""" League title.

Does Ronaldo even have much of a good influence, nowadays?

Ronaldo has played well for real, man united and Portugal.

Messi has only played well for barca.

>Messi has only played well for barca.
With Messi, Argentina are a top 5 NT side in the world. Without Messi, they can't even qualify for the World Cup

There are at least five better, more important players for Madrid right now.

>With Messi, Argentina are a top 5 NT side in the world

kek

Every comment that says other option than Messi comes from a guy that haven't watched Barcelona/Argentina matches in years

Kek!
Exactly the OPPOSITE of what reality has shown, factualy, hundreds of times...
If there's one player in he world able to pick up the ball and generate a game winning performance either by scoring or by making his teammates do it, that's Messi.

>you have to build a whole team revolved around playing to his strengths and negating his weaknesses for it to work
Every single match with Argentina is a testament to the absolute opposite. Not only that, his potential with the NT is terribly wasted by, precisely, having to drop down the pitch in order to make the team play, or else we're completely fucked.
Kek, "revolved around playing to his strengths", for fucks sake...
Playing three finals in this last three years like we did has pretty much one responsable.
Not even going to mention the hundreds of games he single handedly won for Barça...

And that's precisely what separates him the most from CR, the dependence on a team that feeds him permanently.
From your words is pretty obvious you don't watch Messi regularly, but hell, there's fucking youtube videos at least, there's no excuse.

P.S.: I don't know what a Kanté is

>If there's one player in he world able to pick up the ball and generate a game winning performance either by scoring or by making his teammates do it, that's Messi.
see

>wins the game against Bolivia, USA, Nigeria
>chokes against Chile, Brazil. Germany

OH MY GOD WHAT A GOAT!!!!!!!!!!

>Argentina
>With Messi
>0 World Cups and 0 Copa Americas (and Copa Americas Centenario)
>Without Messi
>2 World Cups and 2 Copa Americas)
Stop being silly

Argentina without Messi in World Cup qualifiers
>7 games
>1 win
>4 draws
>2 losses
This team is literally Bolivia tier without him

>Implying Messi was not the best of his team in most of the matches, including the finals they lost against Chile.

Eh, not exactly. Take as an example Argentina's last two games in the WC qualifiers: against Brazil and Colombia. In the first one, Argentina got absolutely outplayed and Brazil easily won 3-0 (and it could have been worse), and in the next match, Messi carried the team to a 3-0 victory. Now, the thing is, Argentina has been absolutely awful after the Copa Centenario, and although Messi on a good night can be enough to make them win against a medium-level side like Colombia or Uruguay, it isn't enough against solid, good teams like Germany or Tite's Brazil.

>it's higuain's fault, I swear

Of course they can't compete against top tier teams if the rest of the team plays like shit, football is 11 vs 11. But in terms of making the difference, which is the topic here, Messi is definitely the best. Also, everything can happen in football, Brazil had a very good day in the qualifying match but Argentina could have perfectly won the last three finals they played, even the WC against Germany.

Strikers are supposed to score when they have the chance, otherwise your team losses, as simple as that.

Kante.

It should also be a midfielder in general. Messi and CR7 are great attacking players, but they can be btfo by denying them possession (i.e. good midfield play). Kante will always make a big contribution defensively and offensively.

Ok, this is getting a bit cringey now... feels like discussing with a 10 years old.
Anyway, I said what I wanted.

Start watching Messi's games.
Imagine when you're older and and people starts discussing football legends... some will say "I was lucky to see Messi play", but you'll be the guy that will have to keep the whole "anti" act irl just because you were a RM/ManU/Penaldo fan, or went thorugh a special snowflake, contrarian fase.
THAT you'll regret, trust me.

Kek, what are you, trying to make sense?
All you gotta know when talking to people like this is: if they win, it's the system, if they lose, it's Messi.
If Messi individually rapes PSG in quarter finals (and every other time he faced them in the CL), its >PSG
If the TEAM fails catastrophically in a round of 16, first leg game and lets >PSG score 4 fucking times, it's ">Messi choking in "big games"..."

The 25 YO baby.

Do you think Leicester could had been champions with Messi or Ronald in their team?

Stop feeding these retards, everyone knows Messi is miles and miles after of anyone else
These threads have become more common know because all these teens who were probably banned from leddit started coming here with their shit tier bait

Miles and miles ahead of anyone else***
You have to be fucking blind and mentally ill to not see Messi is the best

Kante > Ronaldo > Messi

I'd go with the undisputed GOAT

Messi > Kante > Ronaldo

Messi, being a forward, means that his team can score more goals. Kante, while being more defensive, does the work of two men and can stop the team from scoring. Ronaldo is a tap-in babby whose team plays better when he's not on the pitch. He'd probably make a great manager but as a player he just wants the team to play through him and he isn't the player that he was 5 years ago.

>messi makes barça win
>not busquets

lmao

>Do you think Leicester could had been champions with Messi or Ronald in their team?
Messi yes, Ronaldo no. Messi would single handedly make any eplel team champions because the league is shit.

You mean like ronaldo did?

Ronaldo was a completely different player when he was younger.

Kante tbqh

yeah, he was shit

So was messi? Messi was a GOD when he was younger, the literal good of football, when he still had long hair and wasn't a faggot.
Now he's pulling a Maradona, he still the best player because his tech is simply not human, but he's very worn out and the rich life is taking a toll.

Also don't forget Ronaldo is 3 years older, let's see messi when he's 32

Kek this mongol is deluded. Messi cant even score against Eplrl teams like Chelsea. While ronaldo lead his team to vicroty both in England and Spain.

A guy who relies on one system is a fraud like your whore mother

kek he has scored two and assisted one against eplel teams in ucl finals you homo nigger

France 4W 0D 0L when he played
0W 1D 1L when he was left on the bench

Kante doesn't play the final because manager is retarded
Ronaldo costs his team a sub in the final because he's weak

Ronaldo's teams win despite him. Kante's teams win because of him.

Messi has the record for most goals scored against English sides in European competitions

>ronaldo lead his team to vicroty in...Spain
He's won the league once(1 time) in 8 years?
>inb4 CL, even Liverpool have can win a CL, lmao

Forget that...

Messi has scored more goals against Arsenal and City than Ronaldo has in all competitions kek

haha, you're so wrong. Messi is great, but he can't do that kind of things

>Arsenal
>In the Ro16
Wow, it's fucking nothing

Whoever thinks Messi isn't the GOAT is a fucking idiot, he carries his team, it's not his fault his teammates are fucking shit and can't score a goal when they're 1on1 with the keeper.

he's he the first lovable football nigga ?

Ronaldinho?

Tell that to his National Team

How did they do in World Cup qualifiers without him?

Messi 6 games vs Citeh: 6 goals
6 games vs Arsenal: 9 goals
(All in CL)

Goatnaldo 15 games vs Ars: 6 goals
14 goals vs. City: 5 goals
(in the mighty Barclays league and FA Cup)

But yeah, he could never cut it in the PL with the likes of Defoe and Carroll and such