Why in the fuck wasn't Houston evacuated? Once again we are approaching Katrina levels of failure from the current president. He has totally botched this disaster causing many more casualties than what we could have had if we had a democrat president.
This is one more abysmal failure in a list of many for the current administration. I think the time for impeachment has come since there are now many deaths that can be directly attributed to the failures of our president.
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The mayor, a Democrat, told people to ignore the governor who said to evacuate. So fuck off fake news.
>Why in the fuck wasn't Houston evacuated?
Snowflake says what?
And the Mayor was right.
There was no plan for evacuation and evacuating 6,5 million people would have been an unrealistic attempt and just made shit worse.
The rescue people agreed and has backed the mayor up. Local leaders usually knows best what works for their city.
> Mayor Sylvester Turner (D) defended his decision not to order evacuations before the city was hit by torrential rain from Hurricane Harvey.
> "You literally cannot put 6.5 million people on the road," Turner said in a press conference. "If you think the situation right now is bad, you give an order to evacuate, you are creating a nightmare."
Yeah, but a nightmare that wouldn't kill everyone.
> But there seemed to be confusion around what Houston residents should do, with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) calling for an evacuation at a Friday press conference. "If you wait until you realize how serious this condition is, you likely will find that it's too late for you to be able to evacuate," Abbott said.
So the democrat ignores the Republican just to make a point. The real kicker is:
> The volume of this weekend's Harvey rainfall was largely predicted. CNN meteorologists on Friday forecast more than 20 inches of rain, and the National Weather Service first put Houston under a Flash Flood Watch -- meaning flooding was a possibility and residents should be prepared -- on Thursday afternoon at 4:38 p.m.
They had two whole days. Nobody had to die in this flood. It was just Democrat feels over reals and a wish that it would all somehow be okay if they just whined and did nothing.
Oh, and this is from CNN, so even the Clinton News Network couldn't find a way to bias it any harder than this in favor of the dumbass who murdered his city with stupidity.
>no one had to die
I mean, this is pretty sensationalist. There are always plenty of people who stay behind no matter how bad the hurricane is. It's not a question of politics, it's the fact that people will stubbornly stay back during the storm for... some reason. I imagine a lot of people who stay behind do so because they simply do not comprehend how much danger they are in. Evacuation order or no.
It's not usually because they don't know the danger, but because they're not going to leave their entire life behind. Even though there's very little you can do once it begins, people still feel they have more power over the situation if they're there to witness it.
So let's look at the facts here.
* Trump says climate change is a hoax (doesn't believe in science)
* Trump gets into office, and only 8 months later Hurricane Harvey happens. First one of this magnitude in 12 years! Last one was under Bush.
Why are republicans science denying dingbats? When democrats are in control these things don't happen as often, because they are more climate friendly. As soon as Trump gets in he throws out all regulation on coal, and backs out of the Paris agreement, and BAM, Hurricane Harvey!
Imagine trying to evacuate. Literally stuck on the road due to traffic. And the flooding starts. Cars start moving, people start scrambling. Now they don't even have shelter and have to worry about being crushed by free flowing cars.
If you don't evacuate early enough, it can be just as disastrous trying to leave in the middle of the storm as just waiting it out.
I suppose that's a lot of it to. Frankly I just don't understand why anyone who decide to hang back in order to protect their livelihood when there's massive amounts of flash floods being predicted. The smartest thing to do would be to take the most valuable stuff (monetary or otherwise) and get the fuck out of there. The rest be damned since there is literally nothing to be done about it. This is why you don't live in a hurricane zone, particularly in the Gulf.
Gr8 b8 m8
Because last time 100 people died evacuating Houston, this time some people got wet.
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Agreed. However, I live in Florida right on the east coast and wouldn't think of moving. I love this place. But getting out to a safe place is important. You can always come back and rebuild, unless you're dead.
in 2008 when the Hurricane hit Houston (I think it was Cat4) they told people to evac, the streets got congested and there were hundreds who died from heat exhaustion ON THE ROAD because their car didn't have a/c and the traffic wasn't moving. it took 24 hours to go from Houston to Dallas (a trip that normally only takes 4 hours)
the governor also said, earlier in the week, if you are evacuating, do it early; it was the emergency response correspondent who tweeted out for everyone to stay put
you do realize that Houston is a 7.5 million person city, could you imagine asking LA or NYC to evacuate in under 24 hours, and the kicker is, you can only use 1 4 lane US highway since all the others put you right back into the path of the disaster
Idiot.
Hurricanes far worse are common throughout the globe yearly. Climate Change isn't a U.S. phenomenon. Also, not a man made thing. Trump is fully aware of the pollution problem and doesn't deny that we need environmental protection to some degree.
That being said, there are around 200 nations on this planet. ALL OF THEM have their own pool of natural resources. They ALL seek prosperity. They will all harvest those resources to varying degrees of efficiency and utilize them to varying degrees of waste and waste management will also vary. There is NOTHING Trump or the United Nations can do about this fact. CHINA alone used more concrete in recent history then the rest of the world did in ALL of history.
Trump was right to pull out of the Paris Climate Accords which would have accomplished nothing. And Trump nor anyone else is responsible for nature doing what nature does.
You can WALK to safety. They had time to WALK their fat asses northwest and get to safety. Yes, even those with children. Fucking Muslims from the middle east WALKED ALL THE WAY FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT into Germany and beyond.
I imagine a lot of fat people will die either way. Good.
man fuck off, you're a fucking retard just like Trump
for one thing, it doesn't matter how much concrete China poured because those cities are sitting empty and already falling apart
you're cheering it on but you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about
HOUSTON FAG HERE
The rain isn't really as bad as the media is making it out to be. Actually, Its barely rainning at all in Central Houston. The biggest parts being hit are the suburban areas, which is pretty much safe.
Correct.
>Get 6.5 million people into cars
>turn every highway into a parking lot
>hurricane arrives
>reinact holocaust but with Texans
the average human walks at a pace of 6mph, 3mph if they're having to carry anything with them. Do you realize just how vast Houston, let alone a hurricane, is? In 24 hours, walking, they could MAYBE make it across town. and thats not taking into consideration all the water and food these people would need to carry for this trek since we're telling store owners to shut down and leave too.
anywhere near a reservoir is being flooded, that's about it. and generally these people know what they've gotten themselves into when they bought their house. this isn't the first time we've gotten a lot of rain
Dumbass, do you not understand the implication of that much concrete?
It means they created infrastructure to support those empty cities. They consumed and created the foundation for the consumption of goods/services. Plastics, food, etc. All contributing to pollution. EVERY country is doing this. What can Trump or the U.N do about it?
Idiot
Specific counties and townships also did give the order to evacuate, they took into consideration where rivers and reservoirs etc would be and tried to remove people from those areas first
How did the Muslins do it?
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>reinact holocaust but with Texans
That's not a decision the feds are involved in. Where Trump is showing his incompetence is in insisting he go to Texas tomorrow or Wednesday while the disaster is still underway. He shouldn't be tying up rescue crews.
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>How did the Muslins do it?
weeks, months, years
and if you're trying to be political (ie something recent) it wasn't the entirety of the population trying to move at one time
if you want to know what it would be like to evacuate a major city, find a large ant pile and start pouring boiling water on it, slowly; for effect, barricade one side so they all have to move "north".
imagine if Kanye West got on the air and said "Donald Trump doesn't care about black people!"
Everyone would just laugh. Republicans would be like yeah, that's why we voted for him. How times have changed.
I'm not saying it'd be bad for America, but the numbers are all there
So how is it the president's fault if local government had no plan?
>all these faggots wanting Houstonians to die
>not realizing how much oil-gas trade goes directly through Houston
oil and gas trade is about to slow down, price are going to creep up here soon
>reinact holocaust but with Texans
a man can dream
>Blaming the president for a natural disasters
I'll take "try Harding" for $500.
Say it with me:
President Donald J Trump
Houston is a shithole filled with niggers. Just like katrina and just like your home town.
So instead of relying on "local leaders" everything needs to come from the top?
That screams a level of incompetence that means everyone should have been fucked by the Hurricane.
Are you stupid? 1. President doesn't call evacuations. 2. Google hurricane Rita and see how evacuating goes...pay attention to body count. 3. Do you know how fucking big Houston area is? You are shit for brains
i think you mean the THEORY of hurricanes.
>>reinact holocaust but with Texans
I don't see a problem here
ITT: People not from Houston make it seem like we're having a political disaster.
Nothing here is completely unexpected or something we needed instruction on how to handle (except for the niggers I'm sure)
Things are flooded, the water will go back, and we will be fine. We don't need this being political. Our nigger mayor, as much as he's a nigger, didn't do anything wrong. People would have been stuck heading out of town on I10 when that shit hit.
Anyways- we're fine fuck you.
>if you want to know what it would be like to evacuate a major city
Fort Mcmurry in Alberta evacuated when there was the wildfire and they did alright
>$500
Which jeopardy categories are ever $500?
Congratulations on being a fucking retard.
The liberal democrat mayor of Houston completely owns this one.
It must be miserable to live in a country where every single person is labled a Republican or a Democrat
lmao Fort McMurry has the population of one of Houston's suburbs, and small one at that.
this so much lol..
my country has like 20 different political parties and the biggest ones have to form a coalition
Nope, it helps identify the low IQ morons and welfare slaves
this is the difference between the right and the alt-left, the conservatives (ie right in both senses of the word) understand that staying put was the best course of action given the facts provided at the time (quick moving hurricane that was due south of Houston), Corpus and Victoria had evacuation orders. When it stalled south of Houston, causing rain and flooding, the right defended the stance
meanwhile, the alt-left immediate starts pointing fingers in all directions...well in 1 direction, to the right. special snowflakes have been taught all life that you have to blame the white man (ie the male conservatives) for all your woes in life
Don't live next to the fucking ocean! Fuck them..
I just look for Trump bumper stickers...or Jesus fish.
I've seen one good thing and one bad thing in this murricans.
+ People are organizing supply/transport via Facebook. Fucking Facebook. Its allowed the good in people to coordinate SAR and supply between citizens.
- Where's the fucking SAR and supply? During Katrina at least FEMA had this covered. Sure the people became fucking animals and actual raider packs forced SAR to fall back and hold for military escort, but Dubya was on top of it. Trump is busy shitposting about Rosie O'Donnell
you retards know that the state is in charge of emergency response to disasters right? buf thanks for blaming Trump and giving us a good fake news example. learn some govt. op. commie scum.
>population of 60,000 is a "major" city in canada
hold on, I need a minute to chuckle about that
anyways, as said, that is the size of Sugarland, or Friendswood, these are considered "neighborhoods" in Houston
that's a good way to spot the intellectuals, tbh fam; good on you. another way is to just avoid anyone who is black, that keeps you away from low IQ morons too
FEMA is a federal agency dipshit
Kek at conservatards ITT blaming government for not telling people to evacuate. What happened to personal responsibility. They saw the same weather reports. You need a nanny state to tell you to leave when a flood is coming?
The President doesnt evacuate a city. The governor does, and apparently the mayor and Governor kept going back and forth about whether to evacuate Houston or not until it was too late
Fun fact: California has a larger population than all of Canada.
FEMA can only help once the Governor of a state asks for help
But all I've seen are Republicans saying that the "Democrat mayor doomed Houston" by not evacuating.
But Satan! How will we do globalism?
its nothing to do with the parties, you just have a moron in charge #votingkarma #noclimatechangeLOL
FEMA has no leader right now, their organization is in shambles because Trump never appointed anyone.
doesnt change the fact that that the state is in charge and has to request help from the fedz. but I just spent 20 years in the national guard doing disaster relief what would I know.
your trucks, generators, heavy equiptment all state owned. Fema comes in with damaged battery disposal teams and lawyers to file claims and other after the fact bs.
The state and local governments ORDER the evacuation, moron. Also, Houston is a city that mostly votes Democrat.
what good are millions of people stuck on a freeway to get killed in a hurricane dumbfuck?
the Houston mayor is likely a Democrat too and realized the stupidity of you libtards
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False. It has an acting administrator and is channeling aid to Texas.
Your the reason the interstate gets jammed every natural disaster without fail. In an ideal situation the government (the guys who built and constructed the roads and evac routes) can construct a plan to get an entire populous out effectively. That's their job.
You think disasters have to be some free for all?
Stay strong blue mistress...
Ever been to Houston? It takes hours to get just a few miles in rush hour traffic. Rush hour literally takes 3 hours.
Now imagine that x100 during any evacuation.
You can't make a plan when every scenario ends in an apocalypse.
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didn't you know? everything is his fault.
>Rafting?
Faggot, I'm saying you don't need to be ordered to evacuate. Just go. Take personal responsibility for your own safety, like conservatards always claim they do. Why the fuck do you need the nanny state to tell you to go? You've seen the weather forecasts. Just go.
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>fuckin big gubmint
>big gubmint, help!
The governor is over texas is he not? He can do an evac notice just like trump, its his state. Nice flip on the democrats and liberals are better at evacuations but honestly id rather a president with business and military and foreign sense and experience than a vacation taking president who knows when call call 50 governors...
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someone make a 2 button meme out of this.
Who trump? Yea.
Who cares? Houston is a lefty shithole. Texas is better off without it.
tRump is a Republican. What do you expect? All Repugnants are retards.
Figures, liberal news reporting against the republican president. "Oh how we dream of obama, oh how we miss him" ~ cnn news
side bar: katrina wiped out new orleans while thier national guard troops were deployed in iraq. our scumbag leaders in both parties should have plans where neighboring states have thier assests (trucks, copters, generators) ready to deploy after disasters. we been having problems coordinating national guard assests for decades. but lets blame Trump.
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are we really gonna blame the president for a storm this time again? go home you fucking gayparade seeking liberal shit, hopefully you will get sprayed with bullets first thing civil war begins
Your seem to forget that's not Trump's job. He can't order an evac if he wanted to. That's the governor's job.
Kinda hard to tell. We should just gun em all down, just to be sure.
The President is a traitor put in place by a foreign power. Let the Sup Forums echochamber say what they will. They're known communist sympathizers and degenerates.
Just think we got eight years of these liberals bitching about every little fucking thing trimp does. OMG Trump took a shit this morning IMPEACH I'M THE RESISTANCE
It's the first response itt faggot
The Democrat mayor told everyone not to.
Man, Houston are white and right-wing people, so nobody gives a shit, since no antiracist narrative can be told about that..
No they mayor was wrong. Democrat's always fuck these things up. It's what happens when you elect based on race.
So no one should live on the Gulf of most of the east coast? You know the majority of mankind has always lived near the water? What about the west coast because of earthquakes? The Midwest because of tornadoes?
>Trump says climate change is a hoax
Man made climate change is a hoax. This was weather
We actually have had LESS than average amounts of hurricanes.
Speaking for myself the thing I don't get about TRUMP TOOK A SHIT THIS MORNING is you guys pretending it is normal for him to shit in your clothes dryer.
Not even close.
Stop making excuses for Democrats.
How about this? You can live there, but you can't get insurance. Pay for your damages on your own and stop leeching off the other more sensible insureds who live in lower risk areas.
House on fire is a HOAX - my lungs are melting from HOT SMOKE, not FIRE. Lol libcucks don't understand they're DIFFERENT.