>Grown man walks into a girl's bathroom at a restaurant
>Strangles an 8 year old
>Neither of them were transgender
Kek. It's almost like people who are really a threat to your children don't obey bathroom laws, or any laws for that matter.
abc7chicago.com
Someone needs to go vigilante on his ass.
>kek
None of those things are funny.
You argument is essentially that criminals don't respect laws? An astute observation, but not a valid counter-argument to banning men from women's toilets.
If his fellow inmates hear about what he did then surely. But they probably will keep him segregated from the general population. How long before another inmate has a window of time to do something though?
How about we just change bathrooms from male and female to dicks and slits?
>8 year old girl in choked
>in choked
C'mon ABC, get your shit together.
I'm not even SJW but britbong is right, this is like saying gun laws would stop people from shooting eachother.
Society is collapsing because there are no real answers to its problems.
I don't think that there can be any comment in this thread that can make more sense than this so let me go ahead and
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>he was also charged with assault on a peace officer because he swung at an officer while being booked
85% chance that didn't actually happen but they wanted to make sure this guy got extra time
Nothing of value was lost.
"Child safety" is not an excuse to be overly-sensitive about who poops next to you in a public restroom. Anyone who's a threat to your child is not going to obey these rules.
>this is like saying gun laws would stop people from shooting eachother.
Exactly. My point is that these laws aren't going to do much of anything to those who really want to hurt you in the restroom. I'm not that concerned about pooping next to transgender people, myself. Should I?
This shit is a bit too convenient for the Republican narrative. All these things happened just because it is somehow legal, now? These people were somehow stopped by a fucking sign on the door?
Why must you strawman? He linked to an article and stated what was it.
pre-bathroom bullshit
>man walks into ladies room
>people concerned
>call security
post-bathroom bullshit
>man walks into ladies room
>"uhh maybe he identifies as a women... I don't want to be a bigot, better just mind my own business"
>children done get raped
thank god we are a tolerant society that cares more about not offending adults than the safety of children from sexual predators
>laws will always be broken by criminals
CHECK MATE POL, WE SHOULD GET RID OF LAWS ALTOGETHER.
Spot on. The business should decide who is allowed to use which toilet. If they're in a tranny hellhole then being "progressive" will get them more customers.
I'm a little in the dark on this whole bathroom thing. Is it now illegal to divide bathrooms by sex in the United States or something?
Yep, and a trans person would not be stopped by signs if they really wanted to hurt your kids.
Aussie shitposts quality straw posts once again
Port o lets and outhouses have been gender neutral for centuries. I don't recall those being a problem.
What kind of sad paranoid dolt do you have to be to think evil rapists are just running to bathrooms to get their jollies?
You live in a past that never actually existed. You think somehow pissing or shitting ties directly to degeneracy when it's a simple biological need.
You are the kind of backwards retard that thinks this benign change means orgies in the bathroom and little girls raped everywhere. And yet there hasn't been that. Just like gays in the military changed nothing. Just like gay marriage changed nothing.
The world doesn't belong to just you and it wasn't made to make you comfortable. That view is exactly what you fruits hate about the left.
People would be like da fuq you going into the girls room for, your a man. Chances are they ignored him for fear of being called a Transphobic bigot
>not seeing a huge middle ground between those two
A man who identifies as a woman walks into a bathroom and into a stall, frilly dress and all. In and out in 5-10 minutes. Not a big deal, and if they threaten or attack then you can respond just like anyone else. It's not like women haven't fought in bathrooms before, so why is this any different?
Can you not see how allowing men into a woman's bathroom makes it easier to commit the crime?
For your gun comparison to be accurate we would have to allow people to take airsoft/bb guns into public and point them at people, no orange tips or anything
You blur the line so much that you can't even stop a crime from happening until it's already begun.
>gun laws don't prevent people from shooting each other
>therefore we should just say "fuck it" and not have any laws
First of all, gun laws absolutely stop people from shooting each other. There are hundreds of millions of guns in the US, if it were perfectly legal to go around shooting people you bet your ass there would be gunfights at the drop of a hat.
The same argument can be made for bathroom laws. Making it perfectly legal for men to follow little girls into the bathroom will certainly increase the number of men who do it. You might say "that's absurd" because you yourself would never do it, but then again you probably wouldn't shoot someone over a road rage incident either, so just because you wouldn't do it how can you say that nobody would?
Nah, people just suddenly care if a trans person shits next to them. Yes, its crazy and it's distracting the country from other issues. Who do we have to thank for that, I wonder?
>Port o lets and outhouses
>Single occupancy
Gee I wonder why
You forgot caps-lock
>Not a big deal
because he passes and didn't try to rape anyone
if you can pass off as the other gender and don't perv out, you can do whatever since no one will really care about what you are doing
all things related to trannies does not involve those who pass. those who pass are basically the other gender. what matters is making sure those ugly, mentally ill losers who do not pass yet insist on cross dressing don't get any footholes what so ever.
they must be stomped into the ground til they die
Generally, even if they're having a quick piss, women lock the cubicle door. Even if they don't do that, it's not as if there are no dividers. Besides, what about homosexual abusers?
>white people
This could have been avoided if some guy saw a full grown man walking in there but now there's a stigma for traditionalism, now those who could act and potentially save an 8 year olds life have to sit and hope he's just peeing and not strangling a small child
>while mom in next stall
How the fuck do you not hear your child getting strangled to death in the next stall?
>Hurr, women have thought other women before, they could fend off a tranny! What's the problem, shitlords?
Men are far, far stronger than women, you stupid bloody nonce. If you don't believe me because you're a "progressive", then here's a little experiment for you to try; put a dress on, and punch the first woman you see in the face. Chances are, it'll fuck her shit up.
This whole tranny bathroom thing is a huge distraction from real issues.
The government shouldn't have anything to do with who can enter a fucking bathroom.
For millions of years people have been shitting without government intervention, and for the most part (except india) it's been going fine.
Are they going to put guards there to inspect people to make sure they are male or female?
It's crap.
Just use whatever toilet you look like you belong in.
Sorry, if you look like a man you use the fucking mens, regardless of whether you feel like a little girl.
This should be common sense and not some government mandated BS.
And you know what?
I'm a guy and I've used the womens bathroom. There is no fucking law that a man can't enter the bathroom.
If there is a huge line for the mens and no one in the womens do you think I'm going to wait?
No. There is a perfectly good toilet not being used, and I'm going to use it.
This isn't really about that.
The child safety is just an excuse.
The real problem is that they don't want men fapping in the womens restroom. Because that's what they imagine is going to happen for some reason.
It's the same thing with bestiality.
It's always painted as an animal rights issue, but that is clearly BS. If we gave a single fuck about animal rights, we wouldn't eat them and kill them.
It's about not wanting other people to do perverted things.
And this is the same. It's all crap.
If someone harasses you in a bathroom, regardless of if it's a man or a woman, (yeah women rape children too) you arrest them.
No need to have the toilet safety administration check to see if you have a ponos or a vagoo.
>mommy why did that large ugly man walk into the girls bathroom?
>shh jimmy, we're not allowed to talk about that
>[one strangling later]
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WAS JUST A NORMAL PSYCHO!
>I THOUGHT HE WAS THE TRANNY KIND!
>mexicans
>white
>retroactive measures rather than preventative measures
Gee whiz, I guess it's okay to get arseraped by a pack of savage, AIDs infested faggot niggers if you get them arrested afterwards then, aquafresh. Tell me how that one works out for you.
How does this measure prevent rape?
There is no enforcement.
We already have laws against assaulting people, spying on people in the bathroom, etc. Having a law against a man going into the bathroom will accomplish nothing as any of the actions people are concerned about are already crimes. No additional legislation is needed.
Private businesses should be able to not set whatever bathroom rules they wish just as they should be able to discriminate for whatever reasons they want. Let the market decide if they should remain in business.
>Making it perfectly legal for men to follow little girls into the bathroom will certainly increase the number of men who do it.
It is not currently a crime.
So much this.
All these statists in here trying to legislate every part of daily life make me sick.
What the hell, your cops don't look other way for a minute?
>This shit is a bit too convenient for the Republican narrative
Is this how low we same sunk? Common sense laws are now written off as republican?
I've got a strong boner from discription.
Why?
I hope someone murders you
Of course the type of person who would hurt your kids would not hesitate to break rules/laws to do so. But this story is exactly why it should be suspicious for a grown man to be walking into a women's bathroom. If you make it legal, people will start to lose their natural suspicion and discomfort with the situation, and as the story shows that's obviously dangerous.
>If you make it legal
It is not currently a crime.
That's exactly my point, Peter Pan. Same as you have a Bouncer outside a nightclub, you should have toilet bouncers, and if you try to go in the wrong one or look a bit suspect, asked to present a form of ID. Alternatively, you could have a cul-de-sac of separate, individual cubicles, each in their own room (as is becoming commonplace in my area) and have somebody make sure only one person goes into each one.
It has never been illegal you stupid fuck.
It has always been legal for men to enter the womens bathroom.
Who the fuck do you think cleans those things?
You think they hire only women to clean bathrooms, or that they have separate cleaning crews to clean men and womens bathrooms?
How about small children going to the bathrooms with their parents?
This has been happening ever since the first toilet was created. Suddenly we are expecting some kind of rape epidemic because the god damn lefties are going insane.
I suppose we are going to blame laws and society and call this guy a victim.
Fucking conservatives and their double standards.
I see where you are cumming from now.
I agree with you.
Especially on the point of just having a lot of individual cubicals.
That would put an end to this entire issue, and it would make it more efficient to use them as well, since you wouldn't have one bathroom completely empty because only women need to use the bathroom.
No, gun laws just stop law abiding citizens from shooting back.
>I see where you are cumming from now.
>cumming
Not sure if that was intentional, but just in case it was not, the correct word would be coming.
This shit happened before. Only now the magnifying glasses are out
You're right sorry. I'm from NC and we have a house bill that removes protections for LGBT bathroom use from private businesses. So it effectively makes it legally required to use the bathroom of your biological gender. I'm very used to the argument being built around repealing that bill. If you see it from that context I hope my original post still makes sense.
The only point I'm trying to make is that is should be considered strange to see a grown man walking into a women's restroom. It should raise red flags.
Just as the memes foretold.
What about homosexuals? Lebsians and gay men who enjoy voyeurism can get off thanks to gender segregation. They can even have easy access to assault or rape people. Pedophiles who prefer children of the same sex can enter bathrooms at will and spy on or molest kids.
Should we have a mandatory sexual orientation and fetish test before people are allowed into a bathroom?
For the record I have no issue with segregated bathrooms. Just don't pretend it is a magic ward against perverts and crime.
I didn't ever suggest it was magic. I suggested it would help in certain cases and that it helps keep society normal.
Send in the pecker inspectors!
Repost. This is just another criminal committing a crime. If you were trying to connect this to transgenders and men and women sharing the same restroom, you failed miserably. Commit seppuku.
This isn't why I am against letting people choose what bathrooms to go in. I'm against it because I don't want women in the men's room. If they are they will see guys at the urinals and confirm the BBC theory and then it will be the end of white men.
I also think lots of sex will be going on in the bathroom and that is really trashy because people poop in there.
>banning guns won't stop criminals from shooting people
>banning trans people from the bathroom of their choice will stop criminals from raping people
Get your shit together. I'm no tranny-supporter, but this is ridiculous.
Unisex toilets are the future.
>Hartstirn
>HartSTERN
BBC is a meme you fucking cuck. Niggers may have slightly bigger cocks on average, but they don't have 15" like in porn. Those are prosthetic.
Of course criminals don't respect the law, but this transgendered bathroom shit just makes their job easier. In a sane society someone might have seen this guy and done something. Now people are too afraid to say anything since they'll get labeled as racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic.
>Neither of them were transgender
Why is this funny to me?
Don't worry. It was intentional.
Whats is your point OP?
>Derp, see scumbags go into the ladies room anyway, so we might as well make it legal for them to do it
What the fuck kind of argument are you trying to make you fucking retard
>be American girl
>get strangled by tranny
>then get shot
Umm they don't keep people segregated based on their crime unless it's super high profile. So no, he will be in general population until there's a reason to segregate him. I work in a prison
top bantz m8
Point is that anyone who really wants to hurt your kid is not going to obey bathroom signs. And that's the main argument against letting a trans person shit next to you.
Stop letting the media decide what you give a shit about, for fucks sake. This is embarassing. How is this the top issue in so many circles?
It's not the fact that banning certain people from certain places makes them stop going there.
It's just that you're going to KNOW they're NOT SUPPOSED to be there, and thus people will be more attentive to them, suspicious of them and raise red flags sooner.
>It's almost like people who are really a threat to your children don't obey bathroom laws, or any laws for that matter.
like trannies?
No, like anyone. Who says a woman couldn't have strangled that child? Anyone who really wants to hurt that kid wouldn't have obeyed and signs.
A trans person being allowed to shit isn't the same as advocating criminals to rape your children in the stall. There's middle ground there that you're deliberately overlooking for the sake of memeposting.
I don't care about the bathroom issue, but the OP isn't even making an argument in the slightest
>Stop letting the media decide what you give a shit about, for fucks sake.
>Thinks men in frocks walking into public bathrooms where your daughter is is fine
seems like you're the one who needs to switch the libcuck media off mate.
>homosexual abusers
have a reason to be in the bathroom aside from abuse.
It doesn't even take a week of browsing this site to understand that not every OP needs to present an argument. There's 77 unique posters and plenty of arguments have been presented and a good amount of discourse has occurred in this thread, without an opening argument.
> Stop letting the media
> Says while consuming the progressive media
> try to make an argument
> fails
> b-but I wasn't trying to do so anyway!
Kek. Get rekt OP.
>photo of child assault suspect laying in what appears to be a hospital bed
Glorious justice served
topkek, cops rekt his ass
Yes. That's what laws are for.
You don't understand laws, and are probably so retarded that you believe civilization is a real thing that will continue to exist after everyone abandons it.
Sounds like a language barrier. I merely linked to the article and described it, not even an inkling of an attempt at presenting an argument. Do you hate discourse or something?
People in the restaurant kicked his ass, and then the cops when they came. That's America, we all team up to kick some ass.
>It's illegal to murder
>It's illegal to rape
>It's illegal to record underage stuff
>It's illegal to expose oneself, especially to a minor
So far these "anti-trans" bathroom laws are only causing issues for butch women and ugly women. Any stupid faggot who thinks he can break the laws listed above just because they say gender identity people can access the bathroom to shit and piss are retarded. Anyone that thinks that legislating that you must have a penis to use the mens room and must have a vagina to use the womens room are 100% against privacy. They want to literally invade your god-damned underpants.
>surprised there's a huge fallacy and selective logic and reasoning going on in the course of this debate
The premise is that all men = pedophiles and all trans people are pedophiles. This is while they're at the same time raging at SJWs for calling all men pedophiles.
I'm not going to be affected by either law, but I am affected by this being an "issue" in the first place. Distraction.
If Sup Forums wants to call themselves redpilled, they need to stop falling victim to these cases.
People are'nt worried about trannys hurting their kids, they make up less than 1% of the population. They are worried about the much larger percent of the population that are perverts who could take advantage of this change.
what was stopping them from doing it before though? What magical barrier made peeping on kids and diddling their fiddle to them impossible? I really don't get how making it acceptable for people to use the bathroom they identify with makes the general population eager to break the law any more than before, and I don't even care about trans people.
There's a difference between all men are pedophiles, and the fear that pedophiles might take advantage of forced society acceptance of men in female restrooms. Trannys aren't even the concern, there are more perverts than trannys in the world..
It's not socially acceptable to perv in bathrooms though. It never has been. Letting people use whatever bathroom doesn't make it ok to jack it to people (indecent exposure) or rape them
>Kek. It's almost like people who are really a threat to your children don't obey bathroom laws, or any laws for that matter.
Additional question, but what about gay pedos? They use their own stupid bathroom, what's been stopping them from "perving" up in their own bathroom to little boys? This whole issue is stupid
it's also not socially acceptable unless it's fairly clear that person is her father
these people want to change the social norms, so such an event would be possible otherwise
Men being in the female restroom wasn't accepted by population. If a dude was in there, it would cause problems. Security would be called ect. Now people will fear doing that because they could be called "transphoic". Kind of like how the police in Britian didn't stop that child rape ring for fear of being called "Islamiphobic".
>what was stopping them from doing it before though?
Public reaction. Normally if a man goes into a woman's bathroom it would attract attention or violence. This makes it hard for perverts to act. Now they can go in without anyone batting an eye.
This is retarded
so gay pedos are fine? yay? These arguments are stupid
>Additional question, but what about gay pedos?
>so gay pedos are fine? yay? These arguments are stupid
how about we stop trying to create laws trying to ban/allow things and improve punishments for deviance?
There are already laws against the deviance. That's the fuckin point. It's already illegal to do all these things people are afraid of. I just don't get it. The only way to legislate "males for male bathrooms" and "females for female bathrooms" is to do genital inspections. Butch women and ugly women will be subject to indecent scrutiny as they already have as a result of this stupid fear-mongering.
You know what's more retarded? Changing laws and social norms that exist to protect the privacy of 99% of the population to cater to less than 1% of it who are mentally ill.