For Group Phase, the ideal 32 for me are:
Ajax
Anderlecht
Arsenal
Athletic Bilbao
Barcelona
Basel
BATE
Bayern
Benfica
Borussia Dortmund
Celtic
Chelsea
Copenhagen
CSKA Moscow
Fenerbahçe
Juventus
Liverpool
Malmö
Manchester City
Napoli
Olympique Marseille
Panathinaikos
Paris Saint Germain
Porto
Real Madrid
Roma
Schalke 04
Sevilla
Shahtjor Donetsk
Sparta Prague
Werder
Zenit
since I'm not a mentally ill teenage bandwagoner:
Ajax
PSV
Arsenal
Manure
Liverpool
Olympiacos
Real
Barcelona
Valencia
Bilbao
Bayern
Dortmund
Marseille
Lyon
Porto
Benfica
Dynamo Kiev
Milan
Juventus
Roma
Galatasaray
Fenerbahce
Rosenborg
Celtic
Rangers
Zenit
CSKA
Basel
Bruge
Anderlelcht
+2 whatever Buttfuck United FC, they make the whole thing more interesting.
ideally there would be 16 max
With 16:
Ajax
Anderlecht
Barcelona
Basel
Benfica
Celtic
CSKA
Dortmund
Fenerbahçe
Juventus
Malmö
Manchester City
Panathinaikos
PSG
Shahtjor Donetsk
Sparta
>Sparta, Panathinaikos,
>over Copenhagen
Witness us winning EL
Ajax
Anderlecht
Arsenal
Athletic Bilbao
Barcelona
Basel
BATE
Bayern
Benfica
Borussia Dortmund
Celtic
Chelsea
Copenhagen
CSKA Moscow
Fenerbahçe
Juventus
Liverpool
Malmö
Manchester City
Napoli
>Legia Warszawa/Lech Poznan/Lechia Gdansk/Jagiellonia
Panathinaikos
Paris Saint Germain
Porto
Real Madrid
Roma
Schalke 04
Sevilla
Shahtjor Donetsk
Sparta Prague
Werder
Zenit
>Poland
>BATE
literally why? a pointless 2-bit club in bumfuck nowhere that always get raped
>literally no team that will 3-3 with Real Madrid, so his country can forget about how poor and irrevelant they are for 2 days
just shut up monkey, and let us have fun which you won't ever have, cause you just shit out of the window in your poor favelas with children dying on the streets, animals being raped while they shit, fucking hiv all over your walls so you can't even kiss your mother, because your bloody lips will suck out the blood from her beaten cheeks plus crying for years because 7-1 happened (Germany was at home that day)
Real Madrid
Dortmund
Sporting Lisbon
Celtic
Bayern
Man City
Ajax
Dinamo Zagreb
Barca
Napoli
Porto
Standard Liege
PSG
Man Utd
Besiktas
Rangers
Juventus
Sevilla
Herta Berlin
Feyenoord
Chelsea
Monaco
CSKA Moskva
FC Kobenhavn
Atletico Madrid
Benfica
Inter Milan
RB Leipzig
Arsenal
AC Milan
Zenit
AEK Athens
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Atletico Madrid
Valencia
Arsenal
Chelsea
Manchester United
Liverpool
Juventus
Internazionale
AC Milan
Ajax
PSV
Feyenoord
Bayern
Borussia Dortmund
Hamburg
FC Porto
Benfica
Boavista
Celtic
Rangers
PSG
Monaco
Anderlecht
Rosenborg
Dynamo Kyiv
Panathinaikos
Galatasaray
Red Star Belgrade
Malmo
Steaua
>celebrating a 3-3 draw HOME against Madrid
>using it as damage control
you gonna get bitchslapped by ajax lol
>AC Milan
>that damage control because you can't no longer celebrate because of 7-1
>ever
call me once you will win something beside some chica madre copa cup.
Ideal UCL?
01. Champion of Bundesliga
02. Champion of Premier League
03. Champion of La Liga
04. Champion of Serie A
05. Champion of Ligue 1
06. Champion of Primeira Liga
07. Champion of Eredivisie
08. Champion of Belgian First Division
09. Champion of Turkish Süper Lig
10. Champion of Russian Premier League
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
Last six spots determined by playoffs between the Champions of countries like Sweden, Denmark, Greece, Ukraine, Scotland, Switzerland, Austria, etc.
Other formats can fuck off
>Panathinaikos
Are you fucking serious? They had their last European win back in 2012.
1971 European Cup Final. I'm a soccer historian and I respect this sport's history.
>Panathinaikos
I just used them as an example to show Sup Forums that they know shit about football, and are interested only in 'top' leagues which make them just some kind of bandwagonners and not real football fans.
Also there were some great poles platin in Greece.
also. people here rate some maradona and the don't even know that Boniek is the one worth to be rated. why? because they know shit about football you should stick to pingpong
>manchester city
lmao
I like that you specified champions, not just big name clubs.
Looks good to me, maybe a couple second place teams or winning of trophies like FA Cup, etc.
Panathinaikos is more efficient in euro competitions than Olympiakos
If your list doesn't contain HSV or Aston Villa you might as well throw it right in the trash.
20 years ago, maybe. Panathinaikos has been abhorrent in Europe for like 7 years (15 years actually, with a couple of exceptions)
Their achievements over the years do stand out more though, I'll admit that.