>neo-liberal
as opposed to a classical liberal?
i thought modern liberals were on the left?
whereas most of the my answers were individualistic and pro small government, lending a description closer to conservative i thought
i feel this test is skewed, reminds me of the political compass, left wing propaganda.
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My man
Looks like good ratios there, but I wouldnt like getting called anything with liberal in it.
>muh tradition
Google neoliberalism, it's not referring to actual modern American liberals, more to free market economic policies
wait, actual liberals are regarded as neo-liberals to modern liberals?
>capitalist
>patriotic
>more conservative than progressive
must be a liberal
my bro
I would swing that last bar towards progress, but progress is something that gets its meaning blurred so..
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>t. 14yo poorfag who still believes comunism
given the progress is subjective, progressing towards what exactly
im for criminalisation of class a drugs and tighter immigration, which lands me a few pegs over towards authority
another thing i dont understand about this test is how you could hypothetically be a libertarian revolutionary communist according to this test
I don't even like liberals! I just want to be able to fuck loli and get high without worrying about jail
I'm in for the exact oposit. The legalization of every substance known to man.
This will accomplish some things such as:
>no more tax payer billions towards hunting junkies and pissing off pot heads
>natural selection is free to do its thing, let junkies kill themselves the best way there is (heroin)
>good quality products for the ones who don't want to put unknown shit in their bodies
>doesn't know what communism is but likes to use it as an insult anyway
im libertarian on pot, im talking class a drugs
i also think mass legalisation and distribution would encourage and legitimise the use of these drugs.
in the root of your argument is this idea of a body's complete sovereignty, i get the friedman argument, but it assumes or at least wants to assume our actions exist inside a vacuum, to the point that mind altering dangerous substances is where i draw the line personally.
i think the war against drugs was executed poorly and given up on in the last 30 years at least where im from, rather than a lost cause to begin with.
im half asleep, let me clarify the "actions exist inside a vacuum" thing
cigarettes increase your chance of dying, but thats your choice, same with the choice to not wear a seatbelt when you're the only occupant of a car
legalising class a substances however seems to me like not wearing seatbelt in a car full of people, these substances arrest all agency in many cases and destroy relationships.
he used it as an insult probably because communism is the most morally fucked way to run a society ever conceived of, unless you're referring to that utopian, moneyless, stateless, pipedream communism that only exists in peoples minds
If you ain't a lefty, fascist, or monarchist your political ideology is probably based in the 18th and 19th century Western European enlightenment era thought known as liberalism making you, yes, a liberal.
neo-liberal = pro-capitalist, a liberal construct
i identify with classical liberalism, i just found the distinction between that and neo-liberalism strange.
That brings me to a whole new debate on how society is structured.
I believe we are inherently alone in this world, creating relationships merely out of cooperation/commensalism. I believe the "family and friends" meta is wrong and should be replaced by a "all friends all strangers" one.
The addict that sticks the needle in his vein knows what life is all about, heroin. People say 3 years of heroin is better and more fulfilling than a lifetime of sobriety.
Legalization would allow education and research on this subject, something you know we don't have as of now besides the usual "drugs are bad" slogan.
> The most morally fucked way to run a society ever conceived of
Are you fucking kidding me? Have you read a goddamn book? Do you know anything about historical politics?
You can argue that capitalism achieves better things than communism, or that communism is harmful, but "the most morally fucked way to run a society ever conceived of"?? You're not even saying "implemented", which is still insanely untrue, you're saying conceived of.
That opens to door to dystopian fiction as well as pure hypotheticals. Even if you meant "implemented", do you really think it beats out fascism or societies run on the backs of slaves? Would you really rather a government that literally steals from everyone, not under the guise of communism, but just because they can? Because these things happened and are happening, and they're way worse than the communism you're referring to.
>socialism
>it's not comunism bro I swear, you just have to give half of what you earn to junkies and niggers
You are the scum of this earth
accurate
>implemented
>implying your brand of communism hasnt been executed yet
the writings of karl marx are an abomination.
communism is responsible for the deaths of more than a hundred million people in the 20th century.
forgive the hyperbole when i said "conceived of" but statistically speaking communism is a bigger killer than fascism.
I am okay with this
your first paragraph sounds like marx
people say a whole lotta things, a lot of them harmful.
there is plenty of education and research on the subject, the problem is more cultural and deep seated than that i feel.
its an established fact that smoking causes cancer and people still do it.
disregard commies, they are inherently stupid and miss the whole point of life, which is to evolve and overcome, not equalize and degenerate.
my man
i think where they go wrong is that they try to enforce a point to life at gunpoint.
Yeah, would have been great to have a definition of the words, because just the word doesn't really mean anything.
u smoke pot and are like 20 rite
25 and I haven't smoked pot in like 8 years. But I don't know where this is coming from because looking at the stats I'm a centrist except that I don't give two shits about religion and religious values.
oh! so that's what the point of life is? thanks all knowing guy on Sup Forums
traditional faggot
>45.2%
I thought I was a centrist. It tells me I'm lib, is that correct? I'm a full-fledged trump voter/supporter, agree with the wall, etc but it labels me this.
Left wing propaganda.
Ubermensch Capitalist here
>oppression by corporations is more of a concern than oppression by governments.
this is a loaded question
and presents a false dichotomy
i answered disagree because i feel both things are bad, but oppression by corporations occurs almost entirely today because of crony-capitalism, not actual free markets, i doubt the test recognises that distinction though and took my answer as equality.
Well, I thought I was at least *a little* more centrist then this.
Crucify me Sup Forums!
did you strongly agree with the quote "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"?
am i cool?
Anyone who answers anything except "strongly disagree" is a fucking cuck.
not until you get a patreon
this iste is bad and you should feel bad.
If you couldn't tell the entire test is loaded
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agreed
im getting that impression, have you done the political compass test? similar situation
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>im getting that impression, have you done the political compass test? similar situation
Yes indeed.
The developers are interested in politics and thus biased. I'd say the questions are more biased in polcompass, but the result is way more biased in 8values.
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>american education
liberal in the market sense, you fuckin inbreed mouthbreather.
> Canadian fag here
Am I cool
i understand what liberal means, friend.
the neo prefix confused me is all.
Neo liberalism has nothing to do with "modern liberals".
Neo liberalism is a term to describe the politics to leave everything to the free market. Neo liberalism is mostly everything about privatization.
This term came up around 1990-2010, and is therefore older than "modern liberals"
(Same person)
Also my polcomp
You're a market liberal, you're not a classical liberal because you're an authoritarian. BTW all liberals in America are Right-Wing.
Obamacare is a bad idea.
agreed
so its not anarchism clearly, but what distinguishes that from economic conservatism?
Neolibs are actually farther right but a little less authoritarian.
seems to me according to the quiz the only factor keeping me from a conservative classification was that im just a little bit too progressive.
>pro gay marriage
>secular
What do you think "Conservative" means?
***test
well im patriotic as fuck, and am anti multiculturalism as well as a believer in free markets and constitutional originalism, I'm just not entirely familiar with the neo-lib tag is all.
Neoliberalism is about freedom both economically and socially. Small goverment, very low taxes and free to do whatever you want as long as you are not hurting anybody else.
youtube.com
If you want to learn more
so like a libertarian? or are they less authoritarian than neo-libs?
will give it a watch, thanks.
No problem niglet, read into neoliberalism and get a better feel for it.
Libertarian here, neo-libs are more Authoritarian than us.
Got social authoritarian on a test like that, what it mean tho?
It's a figment of people's imaginations, sure it might be possible like absolute zero but it's more like god where you just have to take people's word for it who haven't seen it either and are dissatisfied with the here and now.
No thank you
It means you want a government with greater control over everyone's lives.
You forgot "and did a better job of hiding it"
Only if i am the one in control of that government
I know I got fashy goy in this test
There you go.
Not the one a self righteous red asshole tries to shove down his fellow mans threat and gun point telling him it's for his own good and he's just thinking wrong
well his description sounds a lot like libertarianism
It's partly incorrect, Neo-Libs still want the State to have Authority and enforce rules but under the condition it operates under the free market. Libertarians conversely believe that the state is here to protect us but otherwise doesn't have much power.
Do you live in the bible belt? Im not being an asshole, genuinely curious
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How am I doing?
This is the most useless, generalized and vague test I have ever seen. Every question is so supremely open to interpretation that no answer will be a definitive one and can only be classified by its tone, which of course would adhere to a very strick and limited spectrum. This doesn't tell you jack shit and it's a waste of time.
Figure out your shit for yourself.
Not at all, actually. Live in the Midwest
questions were responded to, clarifications were made, and i learnt a little.
aside from that i agree with you about the test, questions were vague as fuck and draw you into false dichotomies.
Aha! Well I went to school in Utah, Looking at your results reminded me of my roommates, one was from Colorado, and the other was from Washington state I think. But yeah, they mostly held views that you skewed towards. Strong tradition, Statist, and capitalist.
I'm glad I am.