How to reach the state of not giving a fuck?

how to reach the state of not giving a fuck?

is it possible to actually achieve confidence by accepting that you are a loser?

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It's impossible, I tried many times and it never works.
I think you'll have to get a gf to keep yourself busy

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it's possible to achieve almost a near certainty of giving no fucks, but there will always be outside pressures, but as it relates to confidence i am not sure its the same thing as if you do not give a fuck you are basically devoid of an ego therefore confidence plays no factor.

Eat a Psilocybe!
it's like they show you the state of no fucks, and when you look at yourself and compare how you are to how you normally are (body language, breath, posture, etc), you can use that in your regular life, and "find your way back" to that really tangible feeling of not giving a fuck!

i want to become like those taoist and zen fat fucks who just dont give a shit and are happy and at peace

(well desu i want to use that not giving a fuck state to be able to approach girls without the pain of rejection)

Nope, you are just repressing yourself at that point. You might feel ok or numb in the moment, but at some point that dam holding your feelings back is going to break and you'll probably end up killing yourself over not doing anything to improve your life.

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have you tried browsing 4archive.org w/o an adblock for a few hours? once your system is full of 50 popups that scream and moan and say you are a winner at the same time, your whole existence will finally have a meaning.

but i would be improving my life...
i want to detach myself from my ego, kill it so it can not get hurted, i want to willingly become psychopath and do what i really want to do without caring for other people opinions

thats a nice idea user lmao

That's because you are wanting to improve your life, it's not necessarily a dam, it could be gates that are just open and you just let it all flow through, without the gates or wall/dam be affected. Just don't give a shit at all. That means giving up yourself. You can't give a shit about your past. Your personality must change, are you still you?

depression is caused by having a fucked up life, chemical imbalances are just a meme, you need to un-fuck your life up to cure the depression

the treatment for depression has been known since the time of ancient Greeks so you have no excuse to not be doing it right now faggot

You can't "kill the ego", you can see it for what it is, and choose to not follow it's impulses. Your ego is just like the operating system that society has installed in you since birth, family, friends, school etc, in order for us to function as humans in a society. Everything from how you eat to shit to walk and talk, it's all part of the operating system. But the clue is, we're not our egoes! We're the computers that the operating system is running on. If "you" can observe "your" thoughts and "your" actions, who is observing? -that- is you. So just adjust that operating system to your liking. Don't delete it, wtf man! You'd not be anymore, there would only be your body left, incapable of and uninterested in moving.

i want to install the bootloader with which i would be able to switch between operating systems when i want to : )

yes. i am at that point.

unfortunately one requirement for that state is.
>stay a virgin

so once you put that away you will never be chil

what lol?
i thought it is exactly opposite
once you lose your virginity, you will be at ease because you lost it, so you will lose that anxiety in approaching girls

you think so. but it's not

the thing you lose by not being a virgin is your fantasy about how it would be. reality will be more boring than anything you imagined before. you could say a part of your youth will die...

Instead of understanding what your weaknesses are, you want to try and hide them. That doesn't work. The only way to have no weaknesses is to know them all and understand them, so you can recognize attacks upon them.

What you want is to know yourself, for which I recommend philosophy. This guy also just wrote a book about it, The Art Of the Argument, which is really good.

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Got these from Sup Forums, pretty smart guys. The advice gets a little floaty but it works, improved my sex life quite drastically.

seen it

Lol, that's some culture bullshit! Part of your fantasy dies? Sex is as exciting as you make it, it just depends on how present you are. Sex can be a GREAT way to "tune in and turn on", btw. It's its own psychedelic experience. You lose yourself in motions, you control your body without yourself present, the boundary of your body expands to his/hers. THAT is that point, where you don't have fucks to give. You're probably just walking around in society being a self-righteous forced virgin holding back your emotions with whatever you indulge :p

Having sex just to have sex is pointless and it damages your pair bonding capability.

h-ho do you stop holding back on your emotions?
t. virgin here : /

I suggested having sex as an experience for a couple to break out of their everyday prisons in a unison psychedelic experience, looking at eachother until you forget what you look like and moving like you're not sure anymore who is in control of what parts. It has never damaged any of my previous bonds. It takes practice to let go that much, and trust. The women I've shared this with I've made incredible bonds with, we just love each other when we meet, talk when we're apart, we live our own lives. But if you're suggesting it harms the proprensity to bond in a pair relationship that is just ridiculous.

Different for everybody, I can't really explain it. You just feel comfortable?

Nah, you are a beta who can't keep a woman around so you glorify sex over relationships. You don't give a shit about any of these women, the moment they grow older you will abandon them for younger women.

Pair bonding is a biological reality, sex is much more complex than you understand it.

what if i cant get out of my head in social meetups
like bars or clubs?
am i fucked?

Why the fuck are you going to bars or clubs? People only go to bars or clubs to fuck niggers and other low quality people. Get a hobby where there's normal people, talk to women like they're people.

What's basically happened is that your amygdala has identified interacting with women as scary, so what you do is interact with a lot of women so your amygdala knows you aren't actually in danger.

>and other low quality people
maybe you missed when i mentioned that i am a virgin

So what? That just means you haven't given in to all the propaganda to fuck fuck fuck or you aren't a person. In an r-selected socialist society, women mostly flock to the alpha males.

Young boys are stuck in schools run by women, and are fed all kinds of bullshit about women. Women want strong men for long term relationships. What you want to do is get fit, project strength and look for a woman that wants a long term relationship too.

You aren't any less for being a virgin. It just means you're disease free and have more time to amass your wealth through work, so you can get a better quality wife.

No I had that part raped out of me as a kid, I literally don't have those urges. I know what living in a pair entails for me, I've tried it, and if I want to be myself I can't live with a woman like that. Yes, of course beta if you describe it like that, I have no interest in carrying anyone else, nor in being the strong leader. I'm 31 and I have partners who are older than me, so why would I want to swap out anyone for someone else? They all grow differently, it's beautiful to watch, I grow, I meet new people. It's a nice life bro, but if it's not for you it's not for you. I'm not trying to convince you to have sex ;)

but i want to lose my virginity to see how it is like
and to be less of a loser

You don't even understand that you're damaged. You have become a hedonist as a result. You pretend to care about nothing, but here you are giving people advice on how to be more like you.

Just talk to women. Start with cashiers, do 10 in a row every day. choose a line, say it, move on. When you start noticing that fear diminishing, incerase the dosage. Repeat until it starts feeling good talking to them. Upgrade to people on the street. You can use men to practice this too, just be careful not to use pickup lines if you don't mean it.

You'd be wasting your virginity on some ho you have no intention of loving. I don't understand why you'd want that instead of sharing your first time with someone you truly know and care for.

I think you've consumed too much media and porn too think straight, losing your virginity to a stranger is going to be a terrible experience for you.

idk, i wouldn't call myself confident exactly but i'm def less insecure after realizing that things are impermanent and that everything, including the standards i and others judge by are arbitrary and effectively meaningless. it doesn't change too much practically speaking but i'm less afraid of what people think of me which is nice

I'm not giving anyone advice on how to be more like me. I just suggested a way to have sex that is great for people who love each other.

And I stated pretty clearly that I'm broken, but that is only a hormonal and mental issue. If I wanted to I could let those urges come but it would entail not being who I am.

I care a great deal about my family, friends and the women I love. I am also a hedonist, I love this fucking life and all the pleasures it entails. My horse was high and fragile before, a thin wisp of hate and pretense. As soon as I saw I was on it I jumped off. That's all there's to it.

i dont care, i just want to lose it as quickly as i can because being a male virgin is a shame

It´s hard and why would you want to be unfeeling sociopath? Just be the best version of you possible. Stop being so fucking selfish and you will achieve true zen.

>but i want to lose my virginity to see how it is like

100% bait

>and to be less of a loser

110% bait

You've watched too much media to think virginity is a unit of trade. It's not like if you save playing tag with the right group of best friends it's going to be so much better than playing tag with someone else before that. It just means you're better prepared for the tag match with your good friends and you all have a better time for it.

Start with small shit, like saying no to someone when they offer you something even if you want it. Next put on your big boy panties and start killing small animals, I started by maiming a few mice than worked my way to cats and dogs. After that start being a dick to everyone even if there are negative consequences to your actions. Than start physically hurting people anyone will do but the more morally wrong you think it is the faster it will kill your emotions. Then if you have made it this far you should be good and dead inside but if not try killing someone, and if that doesn't work than kill yourself.

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this is so funny hahaha
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self acceptance is the only way to pace. i'm reading a cognitive behavorial tharapy book about greif and acceptance because my life is hell after major life changes.

if you think you're a loser, just have grattitude and look at the people who are actually worse off than you.

also nice bait, you made me reply you faggot nigger kike shill

Shit I'm already saying no to things I really want, am I becoming a psychopath??

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but it is so hard for me to start talking to strangers, i want to, and i have an image of that fun guy in my head, but when i get to the point of doing it, my mind blocks because i see girls as judging

i have a mental barrier and see every girl as something alien to me, like they all belong to some big social group that i am not part of, so i just end up cold and distant every time instead of being playful, fun and teasing when i should

how the fuck is that a bait you brainlet
i do want to lose it, i would give it for free

wtf how did I not see this before. cool thanks for that user will research further.

We make ourselves in the face of society. I met shit at a young age, and tuned out parts of myself to cope. I then spent my childhood making a person of myself with only those parts I had left. That person is who I am today, after getting rid of much of the instinctual reactions I had that came from my early experiences, like reactions to things people say, how they move, facial expressions, and how I'd interpret that etc. It put me a little askew with social dogma, like your couple idea. There's nothing biological about two people being exclusive, humans were always pack animals. Religion imposed on society and culture that the nuclear family is the natural unit. The village is the natural unit for humans. It's pretty grotesque if you think about it, to live so many together, but grouped in small units in little boxes next to each other, instead of together completely, like is natural for us.

>selfish
it is absolutely opposite of that, i want to give my everything to someone special, but i will never meet them because i have a crippling fear of approaching a girl

You sound too self councious and I think that´s your first problem with interacting with new people. At least that´s what it was for me.

Godspeed!

Oh you tryin´ to meet bitches? I tought you wanted to achieve like..... overall sate of mind. I dunno man I lost my virginity at 20 to a childhood crush. Pretty dope we ended up fucking a lot but she had a boyfriend and we fell apart after like 9 months.

>You sound too self councious
what the fuck does that mean

It's in your body. What you need is to be massaged by someone thrice your size in a softball pit. Or eat mushrooms. Or go to a sweat lodge. Or drown. Or...Or... There are a thousand ways. You're in your head. Get in your body. The mushrooms ground you. breathing too. Dancing in the dark with loud music too. Try to make yourself embarrased of yourself when you're alone!! :D

i want to basically become dead inside and start giving zero fucks, so i could approach girls without getting hurt by rejection

>I want
There's your problem.

>zen fat fucks who just don't give a shit and are happy and at peace.
They still have bad days user.

It's not a sequential process. Just start small. Let some of your normal personal behaviors out in social situations. Eventually you'll a) discover that people were only friends with your image, not you b) your friends don't give a shit and neither should you, or c) all of your friends are batshit too so just open the floodgates and enjoy it

You have 2 options:
Try Speed
Try Meth

Both will make you super confident and I'm 100% serious. Plus it's extremely awesome

but they dont give a flying fuck, thats the point of this thread, how to stop caring

coke isnt really an option since it doesnt last long enough

drugs sucks

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Don't you want to feel anything when you're with them? Why the fuck would you be with them if not? If you're dead inside, isn't life just a stat grind? What's the point? Life is full of feels and they're about as close as anything to a meaning we can get in this place.You can give zero fucks and be on fire inside too, dude! That's what you should aim for! As long as that fire burns, what does it matter that the candle in front of you was blown out? You still got the heat. So it's never too cold without candles, but it's still nice with candles. Best suggestion for everything is practice. Just talk to girls everyday.

i want to do that, i basically want to detach myself from that inner scared child and become a seductive monster who just do stuff without caring for anyone elses opinions, who is not hurt when gets rejected
and talking to girls is incredibly hard for me, even if i could, it would need to be strangers since i dont have female friends

I'm halfway through my first year of University, and just before the start of the second trimester I found out that my mother has CLL.

I was doing pretty well at school but stayed to myself really, so I didn't get to make many friends. At the start of the second trimester I stopped giving a fuck about anything, and only started working assignments the night before it was due.

So yeah I'm pretty miserable and failing school but ever since I stopped giving a fuck, I also stopped caring about what people think of me and I just talked about anything to anyone. So now I at least have a bunch of people that talk to me whenever I see them.

yes, that, i want that, i want to be able to just say what the fuck is on my mind

The path to peace is not a path to pussy. Nor is the path to pussy a path to peace. You can have both, one, or neither, but don't confuse pussy with peace.

Literally do everything Diogenes did.