Ftw you realize you should have voted for Bernie

>ftw you realize you should have voted for Bernie

lol no you commie fuck

serves you idiots right

>Vote for a commie pedo jew

>Implying there was ever a chance

There was no way Clinton was going to lose the primary.

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Yeeeeeaaaahhhh... Trump just pardoned Sheriff Joe. He's the best thing to ever happen to AZ.

We should thank them from saving us from Hillary

A vote for communism is the last vote you ever get.

Bernie a communist? You guys are so clueless.. our swedish government is way more to the left than him, and we're far from communism.. the only way we could lose our right to vote would be if the tard party sweden democrats should win the election.

And before you go into the "immigrants have taken over" etc.. no, they haven't. They are 1 in 10, and majority from europe.

>Eisenhower administration policies
>commie
Someone has a case of the brainwashed

B-b-b-but there's this one block in Malmo I read about; hurr durr Sweden is gone

Never. This guy is an even bigger idiot than Trump

settle down grandpa, "red is dead" is over. communism and what the soviets were practicing are not the same thing. proud of you for holding so tightly to your beliefs you're blind to everything else though, that shows dedication.

Are you referring to Roosevelt? He was a dirty socialist. Pay your own way you lazy nigger.

I voted for HRC. I take 0% responsibility for the shit show going on in politics on both sides.

The right is running people over, killing them and chilling with the KKK and left is pretending men are women and trying to make it illegal to call a biological man, a man.

Still a centrist. Trump is a retard and so is Bernie.

communism and socialism inevitably lead to everyone being equally poor. if you think communism is such a great idea, why haven't you gotten with like minded people and created a small communist society/city/town/whatever? There's nothing stopping you from doing it, other than you know it would inevitably fail.

I'm not by the way

>Are you referring to Roosevelt? He was a dirty socialist
No, I am not, because Bernie isn't as left as that. And I don't know if FDR was dirty but I know he was the most popular US president in history by a large margin and he presided when US was by far the strongest in its history. His "socialism" worked.

He has cost tax payers nearly 150 million for defending is unconstitutional behavior in court and payouts to people whose rights were violated.

Fuck Joe.

His "socialism" extended the great depression and imprisoned entire races of people.

Correct, same with a 100% capitalist society. You create monopolies and create a ruling class and poor class, nothing in the middle.

Best to have both elements, which is how we do things now.

Do you like it so much to be ass fuck by the system to the point that you find it fair, you muricunt will always make me laugh

>His "socialism" extended the great depression
>Being this delusional
Looks like someone voted for Hoover. Go to bed grandad

wrong. monopolies are created because of government intervention. large businesses pay off politicians to let them have exclusive access to consumers. in a 100% capitalist society, you would never have a monopoly, people would be able to form a business to fill the gap.

i think you need to expand your idea of what socialism is and realize it's not an "or" but an "and". socialism and capitalism should coexist. give everyone the education they need to be able to contribute to the economy. the point of social programs are to enfranchise people to be able to participate in the larger capitalist picture. you're asking me to give you an example of one half of a working society and expecting it to be a perfect model. maybe the system doesn't work right now because people do not truly understand how it is supposed to work.

>If abolishing slavery is such a great idea, why haven't you gotten with like minded people and created a small slave-free society?
>If giving women the right to vote is such a great idea, why haven't you gotten with like minded people and created a small society where women can vote?
>If abolishing the monarchy and introducing a presidency and a senate is such a great idea, why haven't you gotten with like minded people and created a small republic-like society?
I am a retard who doesn't understand how change happens in a society, the post.

Bernie sanders is a communist sympathizing cuck

Nothing stopping them?? The western capitalist society would rather have a ISIS than a communist country at there gate, remember Cuba ? What exactly is the reason why the US did everything they could to fuck it up ?

It's pretty well established that the New Deal prolonged the great depression
> being this new

Yes you would, because other businesses would never be able to compete. Large corporations would take out the competition and then up prices.

You jack off to Ayn Rand, don't you?

This.

i think most of the people here jack off to whatever is in front of them at the time lol

I completely understand what socialism is, and it's consequences to society. I know "the point of social programs are to enfranchise people", but in reality, they have the exact opposite effect. I never asked for an example, I am aware of "socialist" policies in other countries and the effects that they've had on those countries. Maybe you need to do some more research into how other countries handle things like "free" education, it's not what you've been led to believe.

>the democrats think they have a right to complain after rigging the DNC for Clinton

WOOOOOOOOOOOO shut the fuck up

You can't pool your money with people without the government getting involved? Sounds like you're the dumbfuck here.

Any rand was an old whore, who collected social security, despite being against it.

Typical right winger who voted against their self interest and then uses the very services, they try it take from others.

Look at Texas. No zoning, paved over wetlands meant to soak water and just general retarded behavior on climate change and zoning. Scientists and engineers could've minimized some of the flooding. Now tax payers will pay, because the insurance companies would go bankrupt.

As if it would have mattered. Hillary and Debbie Wasserman Schultz rigged it against him anyway. It was Queen Hillary's turn......

And then someone will step in when you don't want to buy products from that company. It's pretty simple. If you don't like WalMart, don't shop there, find someone else to give your money to.

>rigged

Ya good luck putting walmart out of business you fucktard.

I don't see what the problem is with recovering money that was stolen from you? How is social security anyone's "best interest"? I could take all the money I pay to SSI and invest it with a much much better return.

I was a caucus delegate for Bernie, muh nigga.

I voted for Trump so he can give me a job. It's been 8 months but I still haven't gotten a job, I lost my home, I lost my family, I lost my money, now I'm homeless, but I still believe in Trump will make America great again

Ya it's like;
OMG someone hacked our email and exposed our corruption. Hurry up and tell everyone the Russians hacked us and divert the attention away from our corruption to them hacking us.

I don't care whether walmart exists or not, but no one is forcing you to shop there, you're free to buy froot loops from anyone you like

I think most "helliry"voters would of rather voted for bernie

So wtf is your point?

Monopolies thrive, because there is no competition. They crush it.

This guy gets it.

Mistaking leftist ideologies for each other is as retarded as mistaking a big mac for your bros dick

But its not half the faggots in this thread are going to stop power leveling their lvl99 paladin to actually read and find out any of this.

I mean, Bernie wasn't even actually a socialist policy-wise.

>Bernie a communist?

Unless you get injured and can't work at 40 or the market crashes and you lose your investment.

SSI isn't stolen. It's a tax, which is 100% constitutional.

Oh nice, it's a non-retarded Swede for once. It seems like every one of your countrymen I see on here is a Sup Forumsfaggot SD type.

I CANT TAKE ANYMOORE I JUST WANNA DIE
-everyones mind right now

how do you know what i've been led to believe? you chastise me for making assumptions in a post that is nearly completely assumption lol. i think you need to stop worrying so much about winning the argument if you want something to actually work. it takes compromise. where is the evidence that the reality of social programs disenfranchises people? is that just more "welfare queen" rhetoric, or maybe something to do with "lazy millennials"?

i would absolutely love to try living in a communistic society of like minded people but that can't happen in this country. you know, because everywhere here is still in the jurisdiction of the government. if you're asking me to buy an island or my own country to try an experiment of that kind i hate to say that it seems a tad unrealistic to expect that out of people who wish to try a more socially oriented approach to running a country.

Recommended order of operations:

1 figure out what 'socialism' means
2 use the word as if you know what it means

Socialist Alternative supported Bernie but he has never been affiliated with them.

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Funny Trump doesn't get the same "free pass".

That pussy couldn't even handle the apes that climbed on his podium during chimpout season. He'd make the US weaker than Venezuela.

>guy fills stadiums
>a bunch of tards also show up
>therefore the guy is also a tard
logic

trump supporters are mostly white nationalists and white supremacists. big difference there frendo.

kek

see

>not knowing how the secret service works

kek

So it's funny because he used campaign money to buy a car or...?

Well I can only speak for myself but I like Socialist Alternative, so it's not a "free pass" kind of thing for me.

The point is there is always someone else to give your money to. Walmart's business practices prevent them from becoming a monopoly because of the perception that they pay their workers too low. They have countless competitors. It doesn't matter Walmart exists or not, just go give you rmoney to someone else.

There are few, if any resources that can be monopolized in this day and age. The monopolies like cable companies and medicine exist specifically because of the government, not from a lack of regulations.

No, some are, most are just retards. Non racist retards.

>bernie supporters are mostly socialist cucks and spoiled children. big difference there frendo

>I don't have any actual facts or arguments to back up my statement because I lack a basic understanding of politics, BUT I do have this one meme I found on the internet
>Checkmate!

>ftw you posted on the wrong board

They crush it because they've paid off politicians to make it easier for them to exist and not smaller businesses. Regulations are created to make it easier to create businesses only to make it harder.

Also, there are few if any resources that could be monopolized by any one company that would allow them to snuff out competition.

DNC sabotaged him. now we have Drumpf.

That's a fair point, my capitalist swine friend. People need to give US much more credit and be much more realistic about whom Trump ran against.

1. because the ideal of communism can't exist in a world that's primarily statist (which is why every communist regime has adopted non-communist forms of government to combat capitalism in an attempt to pave the way for it)

2.) becaue US laws still require things like land taxes, so there's effectively no way to do that

3.) because communism is a broad term that encompasses many very different views and it's hard to make sure you don't get any Leninist shitheads in

4.) because your your mom wasn't as bad as I thought so I went back for seconds and got distracted from building a communist utopia

There you go. No need for you to ask that stupid-ass question anymore! Youre welcome, faggot.

The banks and the rich didnt want him so he had literally no chance of winning.

no way faggot
please kill yourself

Trump basically ran against the Cleveland Browns of presidential candidates and still lost the popularity contest.

>thinking he isn't just another pawn used by the banks and he is not a part of the rich
keep thinking anyone running for president has your best interests in mind and isn't just figureheads to keep us bickering between eachother over who's best and staying divided

It was rigged for Hillary. He never would have won.

A guy like Bernie would never be allowed to be president.

He is an actual outsider.

lol I was just about to post the exact same thing. If Smith and Marx are Shakespeare, then Rand is like bad fanfic featuring truckloads of gay child sex as form of authorial wish fulfillment.

>Cleveland browns of presidential candidates.
The real shame is, is that was the DNC's best and brightest. In politics all of her life, and she still lost to a huge buffoon.

He literally founded his own campaign. He was the only outsider candidate in forever. He was unbelievably popular yet still lost because USA is not a democracy.

It was pretty obvious the people wanted Bernie and the DNC had to rig it for her.

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Son, I don't think you understand what's being discussed here.

It has nothing to do with "welfare queens" or "lazy millennials". My statement has to do with things like the NHS (or any other national healthcare) rationing services. Government programs always lead to rationing and eventually collapse. Look at the VA in this country, it's an absolute mess. Look at SSI, you and I are paying in, and will never see a dime of it.

There is absolutely nothing stopping you from pooling your money with people for the "common good". This isn't prevented by our government, there's no need to "buy an island". You can do it right here right now, and there's nothing unrealistic or outlandish about doing so.

Would not have made a difference because the DNC has just confirmed under a judge/lawsuit that they have the right to ignore the will of their voters in their primary, and appoint whoever the fuck they want as their presidential candidate.

You could ALL have voted for Bernie. The Democrats would still have appointed Hillary, and she'd still have lost because then EVERYONE would know how little the Democrats actually give a shit about Democracy.

Socialism - everyone's equally hungry. Except the elites of course.

>founded his own campaign
doesn't change anything, stating it as if that makes it impossible to be corrupt
>only outsider candidate in forever
nope
>unbelievable popular yet still lost
yelling free stuff only makes you popular in the eyes of millennials and faggots
>USA is not a democracy
no shit it never was

>Would not have made a difference because the DNC has just confirmed under a judge/lawsuit that they have the right to ignore the will of their voters in their primary, and appoint whoever the fuck they want as their presidential candidate.

This is true of any party in America.

Parties don't even have to have primaries they can just choose a candidate.

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land taxes can be paid out of the common pool, there's no issue there

He is the only politician I can think of besides maybe Ron Paul who isn't corrupt and doesn’t flip his opinion with the wind. Donald Trump literally used to be a Democrat. Hillary admitted that she lies to the public to get them to vote for her and that she has "private positions" that are her actual policy plans.

Willful Ignorance.

Itt: losers who have never made their bed arguing about how they think society should be structured