So, are Nazis good now? And I'm not talking about falsely labeling people on the right or left...

So, are Nazis good now? And I'm not talking about falsely labeling people on the right or left. I'm talking solely and specifically about the people marching with the nazi swastika. This isn't a political finger point, I'm just confused to see so many people being ok with the flag being flown. Thoughts?

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no they arent

Nope. Only attack zogs use that flag.

I think that if we infringe on the rights of Nazis as harmful hate speech, we must do the same to communism and anarchism because those ideologies are equally harmful. And if you disagree with me, you are a brainwashed leftist.

attack whats?

Zog. Nazi-speak for Jew.

Stay on target here please. I'm asking for a specific focus here

Nazi's were the losers in the war. The winner dictates who is good and bad. Let that soak in and you'll wonder why the jewish concentration deaths keep changing.

Good point. Communism has killed just as much if not more

we dont infringe on it though

So I should focus on the number and not the fact that nazi concentration camps happened in the first place?

Or are you implying it never happened?

Also you didn't answer the question

>Let's not talk about how getting rid of how accusing everything of being a Nazi or confederate sympathizer is a tactic the left is using

SUUURE. I bet you wish you lived in pol pot Cambodia.

Communism killed more on a good day than fascism did on a bad day.

Who are all these people who are pro Nazi? If I remember correctly the entire US media had a fit because 20 or so hillbillies wanted to larp as Nazis in a Gazebo.

Actually it's not. Keep calling everyone a nazi, though. It's a great way to keep trump in office, and fuck us all over for another 4 years.

I'm implying it's very difficult to discern if the nazis were good or bad from biased history written by their enemies.
The fact that there are inconsistencies in allegations against them increases the likelihood that historical records have also been falsified.

yeah, we just throw piss on everyone

Stop misdirecting, I'm asking about the people waving the nazi swastika. If you wanna talk about communism, let's make another thread. I don't disagree with you at all, but that's not what we're talking about here.

>the number isn't important

Yeah who cares about all those numbers and shit

criticism is not infringement

Yes the nazis are the losers so they can't write the history, but what GOOD did they do, if that's your argument?

It's gonna take 8 full years of Trump to get America where it needs to be.

I'm not saying the numbers aren't important. I'm saying that the argument of "the numbers change" isn't an argument that nazis were just misrepresented in history

>Who are all these people who are pro Nazi?
Look around, you're on 4chinz for Christ's sake

Fine, your trips dictate that we do. The question right now is the limits of free speech. Is the swastika a call to action? I'm neutral on that because I fucking hate Nazis, but I believe that any restriction on Nazism must also happen to communism because it's just as harmful. That is my opinion, it is not misdirection.

Nigger, I've been a Sup Forumstard. Don't tell me what zog does and does not mean.

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I honestly dislike him, but I voted for him because he was the lesser of two evils.

There are no nazi's today. Those guys who pretend do be today are faggots. No reasonable person would think that the legitimate 1930-1940s National Socialist Party of Germany were good people. In America, the left is butthurt that Hilary even with all her corruption couldn't win and have taken the name back up to demonize some retards.

To your point, they estimate that the Soviet Union killed 5 times as many Jews as the Nazis did. Not to mention an estimated 250 million people overall.

So the people marching with nazi flags aren't nazis? What are they? I'm legitimately asking.

Please leave the left/right/hillary/trump out of this.

How is changing the numbers not misrepresenting what happened?

>I honestly dislike him, but I voted for him because he was the lesser of two evils.
Oh he's definitely the greater of two evils, but it's going to take 8 years of a comedically vile scumbag running the country into depths of shit undreamt of during the Bush administration to convince America capitalism is bankrupt. What comes after will be worth the nation's suffering, it is historically necessary.

Because we're arguing over "how many" they killed, not "did they kill".

You're missing the point of my statement, it's not an argument....How can we know what good they did if all of their actions have been possibly demonized?
We don't know what really happened in that war decades ago, we didn't have information at a fingers snap. So the rest of the world relied on propaganda written by enemy countries.

You can think you know that the nazis are good. But that truth may be influenced from a personal bias or view, leading to confirmation bias.
You can also think the nazis are evil. But that truth might not be absolute because we all know records have been falsified or erased by the winners of every war.

To answer your question even though you're probably gonna attack it anyway, it is being flown because it's seen as a unifying symbol. Some may see it as a symbol against the jews, who are blamed for much of Americas problems since Jews are running basically every company, news agency and politics. Others are just skinheads who fly it for fucks sake.

>To your point, they estimate that the Soviet Union killed 5 times as many Jews as the Nazis did. Not to mention an estimated 250 million people overall.
>The USSR killed 24-30 million Jews and 80% of its total 1980 population
seems legit.

I lol'd

It's not nazi-speak. You may be surprised, but nazis are not the only people to criticize Jewish occupation. Read a book sometime.

>what is a false flag?

Even Germany says the nazis were terrible. You're telling me NO ONE has any account of any good they did?

So that's what that was?

>You may be surprised, but nazis are not the only people to criticize Jewish occupation. Read a book sometime.
Okay, Christian Identity and the 7% Nation of Gods and Earths probably also do. But do you have any people who are actually more sane than Nazis or are they all Moorish Science Temple tier batshit fucknuts?

For fucks sake man. Are you that dense? Do I need to spell it out and speak plainly for you to grasp what I'm saying?

my sides wasnt expecting to laugh yet

They are just losers. The ones who would be flying the flag are beta cringe-lords trying to get some gasps. The great majority of America I would believe very much condemns any of those guys and anyone who is fighting against them (Antifa) and want to be reasonable and peaceful

Capitalism works for those who work.

>What comes after will be worth the nation's suffering, it is historically necessary.

Slavery to the wealthy?

Nazbol, please leave.

Exactly... Are you retarded?

>Capitalism works for those who work.
Yeah sure, that's why Trump kicked ass in Youngstown and Pikeville.

There is a song written about one of the good ones. Generally you would think that the good ones were just Germans. Not all Germans in WW2 were Nazis

There was a hella good song wrote about some of those Germans. youtube.com/watch?v=_uk2NeKBG5A

I completely understand what you're saying, but you're not defending it with anything of substance. You're just saying "HISTORY HAS A BIAS.WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE ME"

>Slavery to the wealthy?
Kek...you're very optimistic about future demand for labor if you envision slavery.

Ok, so they killed less than is recorded. They aren't so bad now?

>DARKNESS IN MY MIND LUNATIC HYSTERIA WOKE UP IN THE MORNING AND I GOT DIPTHERIA

They were always the good guys and eventually more and more people will realize they at least bought the West some time.

>Not thinking it through this much.

bruh

little know fact, the jews are actually behind nazism.

>they at least bought the West some time.
By losing on the way to turbocharging the Soviet threat to the world?

Yep. Everyone who questions your six gorillion is crazy and stupid.

>The Jews created a system to kill Jews so that the Jews could tell people in the future that a lot of Jews got killed so they can take over the world.

Wrong again

Other posters were right. You are a retard. I never asked for you to believe me. I never took any sides or said they were good.

If nazis lost the war and there were witch-tier hunts for former soldiers and anyone who sympathized with them, don't you think the very germans who shouted "heil hitler "would now shun anything nazi related to save their own ass? Wouldn't that explain why current Germany shies away from anything Nazi related due to the stigma? It's not as black and white as you think it is.

Here's what you should do, fuck what Sup Forums says. Go read the history books and come to your own conclusion.

>Everyone who questions your six gorillion is crazy and stupid.
That is literally the least crazy belief of these saucer riding Kangz and ViKangz
>Just because everything I spout is complete bullshit doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to me

You're right. Communism works.

Legit retard detected

>Thinking there's a difference between destroyed hopeless postindustrial Donetsk and destroyed hopeless postindustrial Detroit
Wew porky

So if you were lied to about the number, surely everything else is true, right?

>So, are Nazis good now? And I'm not talking about falsely labeling people on the right or left. I'm talking solely and specifically about the people marching with the nazi swastika.

Watch this video and make your own mind up.

>So if you were lied to about the number, surely everything else is true, right?
My God, what if this "Wehrmacht" we've all been told about is just a Kike-created boogeyman sold by the drunk Churchill???

I never said you took sides, I'm saying I understand your point, I'm fully aware that it's not black and white. I'm asking if you have any sources of anything positive the nazis did

I didn't say that. But are you implying the photos are all staged? The jews with nazi number tattoos all actors?

Boy does it ever! Worked for Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, and look at these beautifully sown fields in Cambodia!

Were they ever bad? That's like saying if you are a republican you are incessantly bad.

You need to learn to read dude. What sources can be provided if the winner LITERALLY re-wrote history.
Also, what defines "good"? Good is a relative term based on the viewers perception of reality.
Are we talking about advancements for the better of humanity? Nazis came up medical innovations with the Rapid Active Rewarming that is still being used for hypothermia today.
Also much of NASA's advancements in rockets and space exploration came from the mind of nazisi. They are the literal forefathers of rocket science.

But then that begs the question? Is it really good? The medicinal innovations came from unethical practices and the rocketry was derived from efforts for destruction.

Nazis were and are disgusting, it's shit posters like these that are causing them to come back. Shit the nazi party was just anti-communist until they used the Jews as scapegoats and got too cocky, but they're still shitlords.

Calm the fuck down with your personal attacks dude. I'm asking you IF YOU HAD ANY SOURCES. I'm legitimately asking, I'm not throwing gotchas at you. Christ.

No. They are not good.

>Thoughts?

Seriously? The brainwashing of the past x number of decades is wearing thin. The Germans (who did not refer to themselves as "Nazis") created an economic miracle and then found themselves forced into war.

History is full of lies.

>I honestly dislike him, but I voted for him because he was the lesser of two evils.

Lesser of two evils doesn't matter when he's a dumbass. You morons would have voted in a toddler.

There is no personal attacks. You simply need to read what has been said and you won't ask a question that has already been answered.

I answered your question. I'm done.

But that is impossible. You're immediately discrediting anti-Nazi bias:

I'm implying it's very difficult to discern if the nazis were good or bad from biased history written by their enemies

Why bother posting a rebuttal when you have already decided that without pointing out the good of Nazism, then the source must be biased?

Or maybe it's just because historians are right. Nazis were and are scum.

Is that true? I mean, Trump is pretty evil. But I'd take able over inept any day.

Arguing Commies or Nazis, who's better is like arguing horse shit or cow shit which one do you want to eat. The skinheads and truckers waving Nazi flags and tattooing swastikas on thier heads would not have been acceptable people to the Nazi regime. The Nazis were national socialists, for the good of the Volk exterminate; physically handicapped, mentally handicapped, social deviants(porn fiends), criminals, those who refused work, enemies of the state, a tiered society with ethnic Germans at the top. Nazis now are bored and disenfranchised with little imagination to do something constructive.