So I just saw this, is it true?

So I just saw this, is it true?

Stop getting hurt you idiots.

Yep

Why it seems so illegal it's basically kicking you down when your still hurt

>paid for by the government

Idiots. You the taxpayer pay for other people's problems. Rich people who worked hard have to pay for some cunt's health problems. You're not entitled.

yup was in a motorcycle accident back in '12 and a 27 mile ambulance ride cost me $2300 fucking stupid bullshit.

Not for me or for the people still covered under the Affordable Care Act, but your republican representatives and president are dying to make it true for millions of Americans again.

Next time you decide to wreck your own shit have someone call your friend instead of trained medical personnel. What's the worst that could happen?

Or you know adapt to our British system which works and is free

>Uber is 100x cheaper than an ambulance.
>Having to pay
Totally fair comparison
>Bernie Sanders

...

Ambulances cost more because they're harder to maintain and scarcer.
If you're a tax payer, the fact that "the governments" pay it for you, just means that you'll will pay for but you won't get a bill detailing it, because believe it or not, sweetie, you're the governmet.
Also that's what you pay insurance for, fag. In any case America just seems to be the one that doesn't lie to you about costs.

That's capitalism at work baby

Just be happy your not in the 50 or 60s. That ride cost you about 10 to 15 grand or more. You usually don't get charged if it's a none ems they won't take you. Sadly faggots like you have no idea what or how the health system works. Lastly Canada is starting to go single payer system. People have died in a office to see the doctor.

You can thank Nixon for signing the Health Maintenance Organization Act of 1973, in which medical insurance agencies, hospitals, clinics and even doctors, could begin functioning as for-profit business entities instead of the service organizations they were intended to be.

The aca is a bloated bag of shit that is wreaking this nation and bleeding it of money. It doesn't work and never will.

Completely true.

Yes but for good reason. Ambulance services are a privately owned industry. Unlike other countries where the government owns or controls medical and hospital care and delegates their expenses via taxable dollars the hospital and medical care is private. You pay for what you use. If you pay an "ambulance tax" of just $5 out of every paycheck, from the time you're an adult at 18 to the end of your life you will have paid almost $16,000 for a service that according to national statistics only 3 out of every 10,000 per capita ever actually use annually. Regardless (1) health insurance will often cover some or all of the cost of an ambulance service (2) if you have financial problems the hospitals have payment or even complete deferment plans (3) if you're ever in such a bad situation that you NEED an ambulance service then you're likely not going to survive it anyway in which case who cares because you'll be dead and (4) the hospitals and amhulance services wont send people to break your knee caps if you owe them money. They can't forve you to pay and by law, no matter how much money you might owe them, they have to provide emergency services to you. In other words don't be a pussy and call an ambulance every time you scrape your knee and it'll never be a problem.

You realise that the moment you walk in to a doctor's you get charged around $300 whereas we have to pay a bit of tax so how's that them not lying to you

The basic concept that a profit for a hospital therefore increases the cost to the taxpayer is lost on you, and that's sad.

Implying you're not in the 99% that would benefit from socialism. Oh wait, You're still going to be rich one day, right?

You're right but wouldn't you support a bill that decreased welfare for groceries/other secondary shit to staying healthy to add a universal healthcare standard?

I mean Healthcare seems like it should be more a right for the people than food stamps.

And nobody has died under the American system :^)

I had several ambulance rides in the early 2000's for various reasons when I was a hellraiser. Never paid for any of them. Years went by and my debt was written off and my credit score is back at 750.

Fellsgoodman.

And yet medical bills are the #1 reason people file for bankruptcy.

>go figure

Banker detected

The idea of profits encourages efficiency.
But I guess you'd rather be a commie than be alive.

You make everyone whether healthy and uninjured or not pay throughout their whole lives for every illness or injury even if they're not involved at all. How is that just to you?

>Rich people who worked hard...

>fucked by The Crook again

Goddamn I wish someone would take a hot steaming piss on that man's grave.

>benefit from socialism
That's an oxymoron

lol nah - just a cheap, lazy faggot who learned that not paying your debts can actually work out if you're patient enough.

this guy gets it, however, this stupid fuck...
thinks that most wealth is earned when in fact it is mostly inherited. Keep projecting, I'm sure the lords appreciate such loyal defense coming from their serfs.

I'm sure many someones already have user.
Just like you can be sure that at least one person has danced on Margaret Thatchers grave.

True. Unfortunately, the other party's solution is a big giant "FUCK YOU, TOUGH SHIT FAGGOT!"

As you might imagine, this does not constitute a solution.

Yeah, a lot of people just choose a DNR, (Do Not Resuscitate) tag because they would rather die than subject themselves to any further misery of our "healthcare", or subject their family to the catastrophic costs and forfeiture of their home and life's savings to pay for it.


The true cost of the self-proclaimed "best healthcare in the world", as usual, is always paid by others. How you can still call it the best of anything is a fucking joke.

The reason i find this acceptable is because lets say someone has a horrible disease that doesn't show many symptoms early on and can cause horrible results later on.
Our British symptoms would let people come in and it would be discovered early on . The American system no one would go in because they'd be afraid of the costs

How is those 70% taxes?
How do you feel when your tax money goes to dirty sandnigger refugees?

All lies.

>The true cost of the self-proclaimed "best healthcare in the world", as usual, is always paid by others. How you can still call it the best of anything is a fucking joke.

If you deserved better medical care, then you would have been rich enough to pay for it. Being poor is a moral failing, and we gain nothing by keeping the morally bankrupt alive or in good health.

It's affording the medical staff with their expensive schooling, the equipment that require experts to operate, and the resources made by experts and costing a lot of money. It's just going to the person that needs instead of going into a national tax. Seems fucked up, yeah, but I'm pretty sure more insurances can cover it. That's how capitalism is in the US. This isn't an opinion or political stance. That's what the money's used for, that's a way to avoid it, and that's the way it is

Lies, more lies, and pictures of also lies!

>you

You tucked up. I was talking about healthcare. You started talking about me personally.

Art of War, rule #1.

You also pay for a ton of other shit through taxes you probably never use. I don't see you trying to weasel out of that though....

Have you ever considered that you may just be an asshole?

The most successful countries today do, user....

No oxymoron.

>Doesn't want to pay for niggers free health care
>you're an asshole!!!!!1!

WAIT, are you saying the ability to EAT shouldn't be a right? so "fuck you, theres grass outside" ?

lol how's that trust fund treating ya rich boi?

Cost a lot for maintaining it. It's not a universal healthcare system we have here. Illegal immigrants are a burden on the system as well.

The taxes would be lower without their shitty royals, actually.

The healthcare actually does something useful.

ya'll realize most civilized countries have no trouble paying for universal healthcare, right? And I'll let you in on the secret: no runaway military budget!

You do realize that big chunk of 'national insurance' they take from your wages every month is your contribution to the nhs?

>Being poor is a moral failing, and we gain nothing by keeping the morally bankrupt alive or in good health.

This has to be bait.

>burden
so you want to pay more at the grocery store? Or is that still an abstraction to you since mommy still buys the food?

it's standard fare for someone who just discovered Ayn Rand and thinks she was anything other than a bitter old hag

>ya'll realize most civilized countries have no trouble paying for universal healthcare, right?
You realize that most civilized people would have no trouble beheading babies, too, right? That doesn't make it the best behavior to develop a healthy society either.

Nah. National Tax and socialized medicine is much more efficient.

Just like a republic is more effective than a dictatorship; sure, you can be a change-averse little retard and keep Fearless Leader, but a representative government is inarguably better.

It's almost like people agreed on footing the bill in advance, so no one would be caught with their pants down and have their lives ruined by a medical bill.

beheading babies? What in the actual fuck are you talking about shit-for-brains?

>obsessed with black people

Yup, you're an asshole from south of the Mason-Dixon line.

Look up Prosperity Gospel.

"Poor = moral failing" is straight from that. Basically the rich are loved by god, the poor are hated by god, and anything that makes the poor's life easier is going against the will of god, so naturally the Prosperity Gospel christians are against those things.

These types are fucking EVERYWHERE in the Midwest US.

Yup

Everything in america is a for-profit scam. People cant pay their their astronomical hospital bills, so these scumbags created "obamacare" to get their money.

Its truly orwellian here, cant wait to gtfo.

I'm for cheaper/free health care but it's absolutely impossible with all of the welfare leeches and illegal immigrants we have.. most people would have to pay double or more in TOTAL taxes from whatever they pay now

it's funny because I'm sure he has no problem paying for the benefits of poor white trash that outnumber poor black trash. It's like, just fucking own your racism man.

You suggested that something being possible/easy makes for an argument in favor of being what should be done.

which is bizarre considering the bible is pretty clear on that not being very Christian

boy you are some kind of stupid. I said, without equivocation, that paying for universal healthcare is easy if you don't pay for a bloated military. If you want to take that to some demented place that is fine, but don't try to pretend it is a valid argument

Well, so long as they're not white babies...

why should we encourage people to reproduce who can't even figure out how to feed themselves in one of the richest countries on the planet? if we feed them, they make more poor retards who need to also be fed, leading to a cycle much like what africa has

You do the exact same you just pay it to an insurance company, people who actually have a vested interest in making the treatment cost more to push up everyone's premiums.

The bible teaches people to be reserved, saving, and not wasteful. Not following these is what keeps the poor, poor.

The Bible's not clear on a single goddam thing.
t. longtime Christian

what happens when 50 or more % of all people don't pay taxes? it cant be paid for

>implying the poor have the same opportunity as the non-poor
child, social darwinism died out in the middle of the 1940s for a fucking reason.

the bible is fucking explicit on caring for the poor as well.

Anyone who lives in the United States has benefit from a "socialist" program. There's a reason why our government is called a "socialist democracy".

I grew up poor and now I make well into the 6 figures. My mom stayed poor and she's too miserable to be anything but this. People who are poor contribute nothing to society.

lol but most Amerifats believe that they live in some kind of pure capitalist utopia except when a democrat is president.

lol mommy issues, it's all clear now. You need therapy, and luckily you can afford it

Caring for the poor as in being charitative, not having the state give free things to them.

how about you quote the bible on that one eh?

More to the point, the right wingers in this country want to have it both ways, with more religion in the government that somehow is less charitable. You're so fucked in the head you don't even realize the inconsistency.

What 70%taxes?

Oh I know. It's bizarre how people can tap away on their computers about how much they hate socialism, while said computer uses government subsidized electricity.

Among a whole lot of other grievances.

>implying the poor actually pay their taxes

Doesn't get much better else wheres.
You go to the UK, you have to deal with migrants.
You go to Russia, you have to deal with the tyranny of Putin.
You go to France, same as UK, except now you have to learn a new language. In fact that goes for almost every European country except for Slav shitholes, and they're Slav shitholes.
And then the rest are third world backwaters, sharia ruled wastelands, or totalitarian east asian regimes.

Let's face it, the only people who aren't getting SOME piss in their Wheaties are the ultra rich.

100% true

We also do at-home surgery in the USA where you super-glue or sew yourself shut. Hospitals are expensive man... but as a by-product most american households know how to care for themselves without the need for state intervention.

It's all part of our long-term strategy to become among the most battle-hardened badasses during peacetime in human history.

Fuck you lot are so fucking ignorant.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about but that doesn't stop you flapping your gums though, does it?

>never worked hard
>never been rich
>thinks the wealthy don't work hard
>they work their asses off, friendo.

>home chemo+radiation kit
>DIY appendix kit
just shut up shithead

Such as?(genuine question)

no, most wealth is inherited.

>pic related: Every tumblr cunt on their best day

>never sewn up in the kitchen after a shot of vodka
>being this much of a loser.

>doesn't understand the leisure class
oh you sweet naive child

> the idea of profit encourages efficiency
But the british system actually gets shit paid without fucking people over when they least expect it

>everyone pays regardless of their health
It's a small amount to pay to ensure the population is healthy. And it pays in different ways. For example, taxes from cigarettes go to funding lung cancer treatments, so smokers effectively pay their own medical bills without wasting anyone else's money.

>pretends he wouldn't need to go to the hospital after a burst appendix
wew lad.

>>You go to the UK, you have to deal with migrants

Wut? You need to stop believing all the Fox channel tells you. Seriously, make an effort to filter your news input user, you're likely to say something stupid if you don't. ..oh wait..

That picture

>Rich people who worked hard

Yes, making money from all those wars. Trillions spent in Iraq. That's taxpayer money.

Not everyone can be rich. There has to be people to do those shit jobs. Are they expendable in your culture?

Which would you prefer? Higher healthcare costs, which lead to more advances in medical research (US, and we're still the highest in medical research by a HUGE margin, believe it or not), or a more socialized healthcare system and less advances(everywhere else)?

A great deal is inherited, but how are you going to get to when it's protected by legions of lawyers?

You think the super-wealthy will just follow your laws out of the goodness of their hearts? or will they hide, cheat, and steal their way out of your insane taxes?

If you do ever manage to get to their money, they'll leave the country, taking half the nations capital with them, and never return.

>being this much of a communist