Dear French people, if you don't vote for this guy tomorrow you deserve whatever bad things happen to your country...

Dear French people, if you don't vote for this guy tomorrow you deserve whatever bad things happen to your country. Thanks for your time.

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what is wrong with his missus?
or he just like his fruits ripe?

It's hilarious how most people voting for Le Pen are seeking more economic opportunity as if they think the government has control of the free market and even if they did, isn't that advocating for socialism. You know...the CURRENT system? Fucking retards.

>as if they think the government has control of the free market
Well, if there's less immigrants, there'll probably be less people on welfare, so there's that
Also more jobs in france, rather than outside it

>vote for the guy that wants to turn the entire world into africa

That holds true regardless to who wins desu

every nation has the government it deserves.

the EU is an easy target and a scapegoat for all the problems you have

He's way too handsome
In Japan, he's 9/10 and he can fuck jap girls' pussies for free if he were an english teacher

We've got a polemist here who describes Macron as th French Trudeau.

The thing is, if the foreigners are working legally then they're getting the minimum wage that any French person would get and therefore there's literally no advantage to hiring a foreigner over a local worker. And if they're working illegally then they need better monitoring. Kicking people out of the country wouldn't solve illegal work and when they're working legally there's no advantage unless the employer is biased towards foreigners in which case isn't positive discrimination illegal in France?

Either way, the right doesn't know how to use logic so I don't expect answers.

Well if it's North or South Africa then that's not so bad (minus the Islam). Just crack down on religion, not immigration.

>Voting for a Rothschild banker

>not so bad
just leave mehmed

I think we can safely say that the French Revolution is the reason why western countries aren't as shitty as the rest of the world. The new republican constitution served as the backbone of many other constitutions in the west and now they're going to throw out those values. Sure it'll be great now until someone decides to expand their powers and establish another monarch or something. Monarchs gain power by saying they have "divine rule". Le Pen is saying she is going to be the saviour of Christian France by destroying Islam which gives her the ability to be like "god sent me to rule over you with an iron fist".

I wanted to come back but of course my countrymen are going to vote for that jackass who want sandnigs to have free visas.

It's hard to see your country crumble around you and be powerless about it.

Now thinking about moving to the USA to enjoy those sweet 6 figures salaries. Probably need one year or two more of experience. And it will make them slightly whiter.

Pretty sure the only reason why the Rothschild's family got a bad name was because they were Jews. Do we have a conspiracy theorist on our hands? Hilarious.

>French person teaching English
Would love to see that.

but he loves MILF so he will don't give a fuck about jap chicks

It's more because the French are stereotypes as being incredibly arrogant and will refuse to speak English to the tourists they get over there

you're such a fucking retard holy shit

i guess people like you can never be convinced, so see you in 5 years

which will be just as bad for us as the previous 5 years
then you will come and tell us again "don't vote fn!" i bet

lol this is just sad honestly

You gotta be really stupid to think your government has as much control as you think it does. Your problems won't be solved by banning immigrants. I guarantee France would be hit way harder by a Frexit than the UK was.

i'd rather vote for trudeau than that whore who will sell the country out to russia and we will end up with russian living standarts

Russia is still better than africa

okay, I will vote for Marine, thanks.

Yeah so it's pointless voting either way then ? That's why you are calling hard to vote Macron right ?
Please
Everyone realizes FN will have a limited positive effect but it will be positive at least no like Macron

Yes our problems will be solved by stopping immigration that would very obviously be a step in the right direction

And Frexit is not even the topic, it'd be a separate referendum and most people would vote no

Yep i can't stress this enough, it's not a meme, if we keep going France will be such a shithole that all this money and all those appartments that you Macron voters so jewishly hoard, won't even be worth shit anymore

>Everyone realizes FN will have a limited positive effect
FN will have absolutely devestating effect and no positives. Le Pen is nothing but a talker, she has visibly no idea about any of the topics she is talking about.
She is just throwing around nice sounding buzzwords, but in reality none of that shit holds up.
How is she gonna stop illegal immigration? "Hur dur leave schengen" yeah because illegal immigrants give a fuck about imaginary borders.
She can talk tough on television but 100% guarantee she doesn't have the balls to actually shoot illegal border crossers as she would have to do.

She will waste hundreds of milions to "leave the euro, but not really".
And thats even assuming she even gets around to that, more likely she'll just do five years absolutely fucking nothing except sell out french businesses cheap to russia.

classic leafposting

>Le Pen is nothing but a talker, she has visibly no idea about any of the topics she is talking about.
>She is just throwing around nice sounding buzzwords, but in reality none of that shit holds up.
Yes. So is almost every single modern politician.
Modern politicians are just here to talk. That's all.

Especially Macron, if you knew anything about him you'd know he is the unconstested king of not having opinions of your own and reading the text your party gave you.
At some point that motherfucker even admitted to not understanding what was written in his speech.

>How is she gonna stop illegal immigration? "Hur dur leave schengen" yeah because illegal immigrants give a fuck about imaginary borders.
Just have customs deport them ffs we have police that could VERY EASILY settle this but they simply aren't ordered to. I will add that many of them are dying to finally get given the order to do something.
Stop acting like there's anything technically complicated about closing the gates, there isn't, it's just about wanting them closed.

*sigh*trop mingon...
je suis un macronboo

>Just have customs deport them ffs
LMAO
Deport them where? You people are all just buzzwords and no substance as usual.

"Just deport them" is a meaningless statement, the problem is WHERE do you send them, HOW do you get them there and HOW do you prevent them from coming back?
And thats assuming you even CATCH them all.

Also, little fun fact: You can't "just deport them" once they are in your country, because to deport them you'd need to acknowledge they are there, at which point international law requires you to process their request for Asylum. And unless you want to leave the UN too, you are shit out of luck at that point.

Or they are assholes and speak English when they are talking to quebecers. Some Frenchmen are huge cunts. When they do that I pretend not to understand (not that hard considering how badly these fags speak English).

>WHERE do you send them
They are supposed to be Syrian so we send them back to Syria and then they can go fuck themselves no one cares that they aren't actually Syrian

Or we just choose another country in the region and send them here against their will
And we fucked Lybia in record time so honestly let's stop pretending "it's too hard to do" or that "we can't do it", "it's impossible" and such bullshit that you keep repeating ever since you noticed the "but that'd be evil" approach doesn't work anymore

>HOW do you get them there
By boat or plane

>and HOW do you prevent them from coming back?
By doing the same thing over and over again

>And thats assuming you even CATCH them all.
We can catch most of them yes our forces are very competent

>You people are all just buzzwords and no substance as usual.
That'd be the other side, even Macron voters mostly admit he is an empty suit and vote for him by default

Anyways i have to go eat dinner now

I do wonder how far things will deteriorate before various countries decide to scrap human rights charters.

>i have to go eat dinner now
mommy would be upset if it went cold, eh? :^)

Tbh both are shit so you might as well vote to Macron to trigger the Sup Forumstards

he's so fucking cute

>And we fucked Lybia in record time so honestly let's stop pretending "it's too hard to do" or that "we can't do it", "it's impossible" and such bullshit that you keep repeating ever since you noticed the "but that'd be evil" approach doesn't work anymore
Except bombing a third world country has no relations to your ability to move thousands of people across the ocean you idiot.

You basement dwellers need to stop living in your poathetic fantasy world and get into contact with reality once in a while to realise what a enormous logistical effort forcefully moving thousands of people is.
And these people will resist, they will fight, and then you need to order your police to either let them be or shoot them, at which point have fun with the autonomous left and antifa in france rioting in the streets and helping them.
They started burning cars for less shit than that.
You people live ina fantasy world in which saying things makes it magically happen with no concept of what actually DOING these things entails.

>By boat or plane
So you want to herd thousands of people into boats and planes to forcefully move them across the mediterrain, in a several days/hours journey, then force them out and leave them stranded..and then do it all over again when they inevitably come back.
Great plan. I'm sure the french economy will not at all suffer from this complete waste of bilions of euro.

>We can catch most of them yes our forces are very competent
Bitch pls. You can't even remove Calais, who are you kidding.

>That'd be the other side, even Macron voters mostly admit he is an empty suit and vote for him by default
>hur dur nuh uh
Thats just pathetic. macron actually at least has concrete plans and facts to ride his shit on, while Le Pens entire argument is just "B-but muh france" and then a bunch of yelling. She doesn't have a single concrete statement oif what she wants to do in her entire campaign.

I will vote for him because he kinda looks like one of Todd's cousin

Unlikely to happen, the issue is much more easily solved with less drastic action than that.

Yeah, vote for him
And have a happy life in Eurabia :^)

>Deport them where?
6 feet under 2bh

If it were her dad, I'd actually believe that. But Le Pen jr. doesn't have enough conviction for it.

Just don't like muslims.

Too bad because Le Pen does. She was pretty eager the last few weeks to declare how she has no problem with french muslims.

She can't be worse than Macron concerning African immigration, that's what matters

She won't be any different, and then she will be worse once she has crashed and burned your economy.

sure thing, assuming politicians are willing to commit resources to those instead of just focusing on keeping power.

I utterly and completely despise demagogues and populists that try to usurp power by stirring up emotion, especially anger and fear while unabashedly lying to their supporters. However these people would have much, much weaker position had previous generation of mainstream politicians not cultivated cynicism and tacit acceptance of calculated dishonesty as standard practice. Many of the same people who now criticize scum like le Pen are now rightly seen as hypocrites and their professed cause of republicanism, rule of law or solidarity (another devalued word) rings hollow.

>France will unironically turn into nonwhite country

shame

North Africa is far superior than Brazil in almost every aspect.

t. Arab family that has been there.

But fuck this shit, just vote for the woman and erase the fucking maghrebis from your country, goddamnit. They're oubviously poisoning your cities and your culture.

You are right, but what does it really change?
Its not like I don't understand why people fall for populists from the left and the right. Its definitly on account of the failure of previous generations of politicians to pay attention to the needs and wishes of the population, but ultimately we can only go forward.

>assuming politicians are willing to commit resources to those instead of just focusing on keeping power
In many of our countries right now, we are in the lucky position that there is still a degree of political plurality that forces politicians to amend their stance toi keep power when it becomes urgent enough of a topic.
We've seen many mainstream parties already toughen their stances on these topics to retain voters, and I think it has already led to a decisive conservative shift in the political landscape for the next decade.
We just can't afford to jump the shark by actually falling for the far-rights bullshit. They are a useful instrument to pressure the center, not a actually viable option.

i have family over it's my grandmother's birthday excuse me for having a social life, you asshole who is somehow proud of being home alone saturday at 8pm (??)

>So you want to herd thousands of people into boats and planes to forcefully move them across the mediterrain, in a several days/hours journey, then force them out and leave them stranded..and then do it all over again when they inevitably come back.
Yes
>Great plan. I'm sure the french economy will not at all suffer from this complete waste of bilions of euro.
This has minimal cost compared to the billions destroyed by their actions here

>Bitch pls. You can't even remove Calais, who are you kidding.
Police is ordered to stand off. That's why they look incompetent but they could easily get rid of it if there was political will behind it. In fact a friend's gf's father is police chief of Paris, i met him at a dinner he explained me this very clearly.

>Thats just pathetic. macron actually at least has concrete plans and facts to ride his shit on, while Le Pens entire argument is just "B-but muh france" and then a bunch of yelling. She doesn't have a single concrete statement oif what she wants to do in her entire campaign.
She is a shit candidate for our party and i am the first one to admit it but pretending Macron has real opinions is really proving you're ignorant about him, that you're a foreigner and haven't ever listened to him and only to your media.
Since everyone admits they don't really know what the fuck he's standing for, even his own voters.

Funny how you avoid answering the question on how you plan to forcefully move them if they resist, as they will.
Just goes to show how you have no real plan besides your unrealistic fantasies of "uhhh just deport them I guess duhhh"

>but pretending Macron has real opinions is really proving you're ignorant about him, that you're a foreigner and haven't ever listened to him and only to your media.
I invite you to watch the tv debate from this week again and pay attention to how many concrete statements he made compared to her. Best example on the school question.

Your claims are absolutely hollow.

Not much of an election, Le Pen has less than two thirds of the vote. Tomorrow will pass and the only ones promoting self-termination will be the us, the uk and turkey.

> erase the fucking maghrebis from your country

>implying she can

Why is Macron considered leftist when his economic policies are actually more pro-market right wing than Le Pen's?

Say what you want about Turkey but Trump wasn't worse than Hillary.

It's still too early to say something on Brexit.

Not the same guy but it is very symptomatic of the rise of populism and extreme political parties. People find a scapegoat for their problems and think getting rid of it will resolve all their problems.
He's considered a centrist.

>Funny how you avoid answering the question on how you plan to forcefully move them if they resist, as they will.
There are many non lethal ways such as gas, rubber bullets, water cannons, whatever ... Lethal ways can be justified too i mean Hollande killed millions of Lybians but i don't see anyone protesting that ? Funny huh

I tell you technically it's not even remotely a problem, i know you don't want to listen but it is in fact a very simple problem to deal with if there is political will behind it.


>I invite you to watch the tv debate from this week again and pay attention to how many concrete statements he made compared to her. Best example on the school question.
Well i invite you to watch literally every single speech before this debate, in which he really surprised everyone

But every alt rightist I've seen consider him globalist left.
It seems everyone who doesn't belong to their ideology automatically belongs to the left.

He's more centrist actually. He wants right, left and centre in his gov

>Trump wasn't worse than Hillary

That's like saying Al Gore was a worse president than Bush.

>swede shilling for the "european" jewnion
what a surprise

Well, the first generation durkhas are a safe bet. I think she'll do her job with them, the rest are o.k. I think.

Only Sup Forumstards consider him anything but center.

LEAF
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>Thinks I'm Swedish

Ah, to be fat and stupid.

Not him but it's important to know that french right or left are not the same as american right or left

Stop thinking that there are political solutions

No. Its not. Shillary Cunton is a guaranteed disaster. Youre a dumb eurotrash so theres no where to really explain to you how fucking aweful that nasty cunt is.

Isnt it possible to change the EU from whithin?

>There are many non lethal ways such as gas, rubber bullets, water cannons, whatever
None of these stop people, you can't detain people in a cloud of tear gas and it just agitates them more in reality. Ask Spain how well that with the rubber bullets worked Pro-tip: It doesn't do shit.

You keep repeating your idiot mantra of "It'd be totally easy" because you have no real argument, and are too stupid and lazy to properly think about the actual requirements for such a action.

>Well i invite you to watch literally every single speech before this debate
I've seen several, such as his conversation with the whirlpool workers. He might be a sociopathic shitter, but Le Pen would have never had the spine to stand up to people who resent her that much and explain her point. She'd have caved in and promised everything and the blue moon.

Neither do you because you have one chromosome too many and have to spend your miserable life parroting opinions that aren't even yours.

Its happening all the time.

this is just a bad post

Take it from me. You REALLY don't want a Trudeau.

He's quite a stud though.

>i have family over it's my grandmother's birthday
>jumps off to quickly devour whatever his granny lovingly cooked for him, then resumes to shitpost on Sup Forums immediately thereafter
sure thing buddy

That's beside the point though. Does your friend's gf's dad also believe he could expunge desirables from Paris and ship them off to Syria (or Libya, which might actually be plausible eventually)?

Well then i already explained how lethal solutions are justifiable

And it is in fact totally easy yes. But not as easy as pretending nothing can be done i'll give you that.

>whirlpool
it was a complete defeat for macron, employees were all shouting "le pen president"

lol

Still, I hope macron wins. C'mon who doesn't want to see les Frogs burning?
Let them vote for the Rothschild their simpletoness amuses me.

I took one of those political tests for France and got 44% for Macron 40% for Le Pen, but i consider myself a centrist?

I'm guessing it's cause i said France should keep free trade with European nations but still leave EU, and allow Syrians to enter country but only after serious vetting

Hillary had a proven disaster record as SoS. So far Trump seems to be on point when it comes to foreign policy, despite expectations. He even turned China against NK.

Well maybe you want him in bed but that's actually a problem. Too much news air time talking about how hot he is instead of how he's fucking the country up.

I didn't ask. What he told me things is that things are bad in general and that they're regularly seizing a ton of guns.
From what i gathered he doesn't exclude the possibility of civil war or something which honestly only proves our political side is right

>but it's important to know that french right or left are not the same as american right or left

From what I've seen, the ideologies of the right and the left in America and Europe have shifted, left repsrenting political correctness and globalism while the right representing anti-neoliberalism. While in case of my country, both right and left still retain their traditional definitions.

China hasn't supported north korea since the cold war, they just don't want 60 million north korean refugees and american troops on their borders.

Are all Greeks this poor at world politics?

only 21 million people live in North Korea

They turned away NK coal shipments from the first time. And yes, china has supported NK for years.

Can you really have any capacity in your brain despite "fuck drumpf lol" ? Guess the swedish stereotypes aren't that far from the truth.

Le Pen wouldn't change anything either, other than stricter gun control laws and more state fascism cloaked in the veneer of "anti-terrorism".

Interesting times, eh.

Well, if it comes to worst, good luck to you. I don't agree with your political preferences, but I do want Europe to be a place where you're allowed to have one.

I would love have the same cold and ominous eyes. Can't understand what's wrong with them.

How is he fucking it up? Are you talking about the last budget?

This tbqh, the only thing that has prevented any country from steamrolling North Korea, is the fact that China had a gun to South Korea's head.

You get them when you can calculate linear regressions in your head

What do you even know about gun control in France my cuck friend, enlighten me.

I don't see how that invalidates my point.

In fact it seems you are reaching for straws and making strawmen. Have you ever won an argument in your life?

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1. You herd them onto a train saying they are being moved to a new camp.
2. When they get off the train, you have to have your forces ready to get them to the boat. Some will inevitably escape but the important part is getting the majority on the boat.
3. You land the boat in Libya and force all of them out

You don't need to prevent them from coming back (although those patrol boats could stop dropping them on EU territory when they pick them up at sea) since going to Europe costs a shitload of money which they won't be able to pay twice.

The only thing the UN can do is cry but what are they going to do? Fucking nothing.

Biggest problem I have right now is the carbon tax he's forcing on the provinces instead of letting them find there own way to meet greener standards. It's killing any chance of industry in Canada being competitive. Gonna be terrible for the economy. I want to diversify too but we can't treat the economy like it has diversified already.

Then there is some issues I have with my home Newfoundland getting fucked in the ass by the feds. It has to do with CETA taking away minimum processing requirements that creates jobs in the province from international fishing boats in our waters. Then the province wasn't compensated properly. But really that's nothing new. Newfoundland gets fucked by every federal government.