Left or right?

left or right?

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Left.

Fuck the CSA.

neither

Wait, what was even the economic system the confederates wanted?
Because it's not like communism just allowed everyone to walk free, they sent tons of people in the gulags, so if you're just comparing them in terms of society itself, they basically just hated/wanted to control different groups and that's about it.

Was every single confederate strictly capitalist?
I'm asking honestly because 99% of the information on them is about slavery and nothing else.

neither

left = better lolis

Communism is ultimately self destructive and slavery would have come to a natural end, so the Confederacy is the better choice.

This is how bad our leadership is right now. The left wanted to make Russians the bogeymen again, to call people islamophobic and make it easier for them to flood western countries with niggers.

But the bulk of their base decided to rally around the soviet flag... Amazing work.

neither. fuck your binary thought.

Confederate slavery happened because of unchecked capitalism.

Is this a choice between vodka vs miller light?

I guess you're right, that's interesting.
If the confederates had won the war, would the US have collapsed under what would basically become an anarcap nation? (i mean it's already happening but what i'm saying is, would it have happened much sooner?).

Left, i care about lives more than money

but muh tradishons

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>feminists turning into muslims

how many wars has russia lost?

i want to cum on their bangs

The problem with that thinking, is that 99.999% of other lives don't give a shit about you and many would just like to see you tortured to death.

Suicide.

I'd rather be a commie than a confederate fuck stuck in the past.

Communism what happened?

What sick fuck delusion are you living in?

left

thanks for the visual, satan

Reality dawg

Misinterpretation of the source ideology over the years, same as Sup Forums being a bunch of mulatto traps/gays in the closet that would've been gassed under the third reich.

Real Communism is anti-nationalism

u r a douche knozzle

THIS

you are 100% correct

They are pretty tight close though.
ex-ussr-citizen

99.9% of people aren't sociopaths. The overwhelming majority of humans have a hard-wired empathy drive and respect for life, so idk what reality you think you're in.

America is shit, that's why American communists hate nationalism, if it was a decent country perhaps they'd be patriots as well, same goes for the police, not to mention that The Soviet Government of the Russian Soviet Republic decriminalised homosexuality in December 1917, but yeah, keep being an ignorant fuck.

U wot m8? They're nazis, not feminists

common sense.

Right.

Now go back to /pol and take your bait with you.

I think you're over-reacting on the ammount of people that would like to cause me pain but still
Thats fine , there is no heaven or hell, just what we make of this planet we live on and share with everyone , i can either bring joy or pain and id love to bring joy every day of my life

Definitely left

Everything you said is questionable because russia used to be, and still is, and incredibly corrupt shithole that most russians are only attached to via romaticized, ideolized images of their country much like fat, blindly nationalistic rednecks do in the US.

Most countries that tried communism ended up being corrupt, corruption is a huge problem of any communist system that shows up again and again, and requires an immense amount of time and resources from the central governing body itself to keep in check (that is, until that becomes corrupt too).

It's not as simple as america being shit and that's it.

>Chooses a regime that is responsible for an order of magnitude more deaths of innocent people than the Nazis
>Cares about lives
Top zozzle

when did nazis start wearing masks?

guess which one killed more people lmao

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Around 2010

leftists arent all communist just as those on the right arent all nazis. Black and white thinking = shit tier thinking

guess which one lasted longer
gr8 b8 m8

>choses a flag whos ancestors are responsible for a genocide that makes the soviet genocide look like a birthday party

> tries to say imy hypocritical

>cultural marxism
opinion discarded

Prisons are run by private companies.
Even those that are "apparently" run by the state, they aren't actually run by the state because the US government itself is just a pupped under the financial strings of multinational corporations in the first place.

THIS

That's like saying, which flag for last place best represents you, when the only correct option is the good old red, white, and blue!

not the brits fault the indians didn't have resistance against their unholy aura of decay

is this picture saying that the solar system is in a black hole? i dont understand, if were just talking orbit why is everything black - if its for clarity then why isnt the orange in black? the only reason i see for everything being black is to represent that the solar system is in a black hole

Take that blue shit out, Canada make the Unite States look like some 3rd world hellhole

And its not my fault that communism had its roots in voilence

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>taking a leaf seriously

Okay friend!

I don't live in California... nice true Europoor.

no it's the jews fault, why would you side with jews

Why is there no one clapping?

I love the confederate states but I'll choose left because no niggers plus I could speak Russian

Taking waldos shirt and putting a blue star sticker on it like its a grade 1 test is more serious?

I know, I'm just trying to keep it simple so these fags understand what I'm talking about, I can't really talk about corruption in communism because if I do they'll just say the typical "communism doesn't work" shit and it'll be end of discussion...

>needing to be led
>2011 + 6
Liberals aren't the left, you cuck.

Just watched "first they killed my father."

Fuck the left and the far right. Normal people are centrists.

...because it doesn't work.
Take ELEMENTS of what works and incorporate them into a compromise society balanced between the state and private corporations kept in check by the state itself (world wide, so they can't just keep doing the shitty trick where they move their business somewhere else).

Listen to Žižek (or rather, listen to some of the things he says, since he's also ultimately pro-communism and that's too limited in scope and not pratical enough).

>fake food
>fake tits on fake bitch
>"my penis totally isn't tiny guis" truck
>grossly overpriced cuckfag boat
>grossly overpriced cuckfag planes
>fireworks subliminally nutting to the Statue of Liberty
Yeah, that's America alright.

>It's not as simple as america being shit and that's it.
Well, all republics are shit and for the same corrupt reasons. The occasional honest public servant is the exception that proves the rule.

>implying that property protection isn't violent
>implying that chattel slavery isn't violent
Back to rebbit with you.

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>normal
>centrist
>letting other people define what's right in all dimensions
>being this cucked
Kill yourself, neoliberal.

Both Confederate and Abe Lincoln were Right,there was no Libtards or Commies back then,thank God.

>loves submitting to authoritarianism
>calls others cucks
can't make this shit up fam

I guess it really doesn't work, not because the system is bad, but because humans are mostly egoistic shitheads...

I choose neither

>implying that the market system with a definite hierarchy on who can get new money from the state isn't authoritarian
>implying work or die isn't authoritarian
>implying that the stateless end goal of communism is authoritarian
apparently someone can make this shit up de su

Consider Paul Cockshott's work on communist cybernetics. It actually can be automated now.
>muh human frailties exploited as strengths narrative/excuse BTFO

>How do i into strawman: The Post

there were absolutely communists back then. Karl fucking Marx wrote a letter to Lincoln praising the war effort against the slaveholding traitor scum

marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

One killed MANY TIMES more, but it's still much better in the eyes of Leftists then the other that.

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In AMERICA there were no Commies or Libtards back then that is what am saying.

>implying that your storybook trigger words can't be applied to your own fanboi-ism
>implying that calling someone a retard or a homo is an argument
>inb4 implying implying is an argument

There were Whigs, which were the forerunner to modern bourgeois liberalism. Also, liberals are just people who like free markets. Look it up. I dare you.

Stalin was an ass, but if we have to own that, you have to own credit for the 20 million people dying every year because you're too jewish to make health care a public good.

I mean for this Another thing,how where they traitors when they practiced same economy as US did since it was created? Heck Brazil did up to 1885 I think.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_socialist_movement_in_the_United_States#19th_century

automating tax payment doesn't really change shit lol if I'm the leader or a communist country I can just take 50% of the money of the country and have my army defend my decision, the system can still be automated, but I'll have 50% of the country's wealth...

Democrat party = Liberals
Republican party = Conservatives

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that's correct for today. not the entire history of the US.

This is why the U.S. keeps voting in retards.
We have retarded voters

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The flag on the right is a 20th century invention and NOT the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia commanded by Robert E. Lee. With that said, I'd sympathize with the Confederacy over communists any day. In it's laws, institutions, values, and personal, the Confederacy of 1861 and 1862 WAS the USA of 1860. Some might find that thought uncomfortable but it's true.

>Democrat party = Conservative Right
>Republican party = Far Right
You just don't know the liberals.

>automating tax payment
Why do you need a daddy so badly that you have to project one onto systems that are state-less?
Anyway I meant macroeconomic planning.
>implies that money means anything when there is no money
You are simply too attached to current models to even conceive of anything else.

And both are right-wing. Your muh extremes are a tiny line on the right-authoritarian corner of the Nolan Chart.

The libertarians called and told you to stop whining. Pic related

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Low effort bait.

I don't find your stance uncomfortable, i just find it morally and economically opposed to my stance, and i think the only logical consequence of our differences in world views can only end in violent conflict between us two, hopefully with the end result of you being dead, and me being alive, able to further my agenda and political stance and ensure that yours can't carry fowards or is at the bery least limited as much as possible.

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>fuck that tree! freedom for poland!

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