Will it take off Sup Forums?

Will it take off Sup Forums?

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No it won’t.

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No. Wheels might be turning but there'll be no air movement over the wings to create lift as the plane will be stationary.

yes, myth busters episode

A plane takes off due to its speed in regards to the air, so no, it wouldn't take off.

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Of course it will. Wheels have nothing to do with its forward momentum. Jet engines: Equal and opposite reaction.

No, and here's why.

In order for a plane to get or remain airborne, the wings need to generate enough lift to counteract gravity, the amount of lift needed is determined by the weight of the plane.
On a conveyor system, even with engines running at full, the plane will essentially be motionless, and the wings will be generating zero lift due to this.

question is flawed. the conveyor can't match the wheel speed. the thrust from the engines will cause the plane to move forward regardless of what the wheels and ground are doing, and it will take off.

You realize the plane doesn't get it's momentum from the wheels right?

doesnt it need air going through its engine to take off? if its stationary that isnt happening. so no.

Google Bernoulli's effect, air has to be moving past the curved top of the wing in order to reduce the pressure enough to allow lift

1. Planes engines act on the air, not the ground
2. Newton says the engines will be pushed forward as they push back on the air
3. The wheels are irrelevant - the plane will move relative to the conveyor
4. ?????
5. Take off

No. The plane wont be able to have a grip on the floor. Which wont allow it to boost hard enough to take off the ground

Yes it takes off.
>ITT people that have never flown a plane

What is "lift", Alex.

This, no take off unless plane is moving forward . . . or you also 'imagine' a huge fukin fan in front of the plane

Yes, because the wheels don't move the jet. The turbofans will move the 747 forward on the runway regardless of the conveyor belt moving in the opposite direction. Forward movement + airfoils = takeoff.

Mythbusters already proved that it WILL take off.

Exactly but the conveyor belt could slow down the plane enough for it to not be able to lift of.

He didn't mention momentum, momentum has nothing to do with the question...wtf is your point?

Imagine the treadmill at a 45 degree angle. Would matching the wheel speed keep the plane from falling off the treadmill?

HAHAHAHA

To everyone saying it will take off
1.) read my post, because science.
And
2.) if it was possible, all airports and airstrips would be built using this conveyor system.

Why would it faggit??

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The only time the speed of the belt could match the speed of the wheels would be when both had accelerated to infinite speed. That would tear a hole in the universe.

Thanks, Obama.

You do realize that the conveyor would not prevent the turbofans from propelling the plane forward, don't you? Don't you?!

>read my post, because hilarious
FTFY

yes of course
the wheels would burn faster, but that was not the question.

It won't take off, Has to have air speed to create lift under the wings

you have been proven wrong by the Myth Busters

If we add a fan extremely powerful in front of the plane, will it take off ?

yes
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Why have a runway length conveyor belt and a magical wheels that ignore friction when you could just build a normal runway.

If somehow you could build this magical, math-ignoring contraption, it still would not shorten the length of runway needed to take off. You still need to accelerate over the same distance to achieve the same takeoff velocity. It would just be extra bullshit getting in the way.

Yes

would you see some shit when it hit 88mph?

>"Wheel speed" does not matter.
>Airflow over the wings matters
>Lift matters.
>Engines can propel the plane forward.
>Conveyor could propel the plane forward.
>Enough airflow = lift.

The plane can take off regardless of how the airflow and lift are obtained. However it would crash within seconds due to the immediate loss of propulsion.

Dub zeros speak struth

A plane does not take off because its wheels are spinning fast enough.

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Retarded subhumans

Are there links? Last time I tried to look up one of their videos there were only retarded "promos" or something to that effect.

Yes, yes it would. The conveyor belt moving backwards means there's a force actually pushing the plane backwards too, since there's traction between the wheels and the belt. The force generated by the engines is only enough to cancel this opposite force out. (By the very definition, otherwise the plane would not stay in place.)

>Engines push plane forward
>wheels move, causing conveyor to move causing feedback loop
>instantaneously causes wheel/conveyor movement to exceed light speed
>black hole created due to infinite mass generation
>solar system collapses into black hole
>nowhere for plane to take off into

no

No but if the treadmill keeps the plane still theres no air movement to create lift

proven wrong by Myth Busters

YES.. it will take off.
Mythbusters
youtube.com/watch?v=YORCk1BN7QY

It was proven right by Myth Buster.
BTW, the Myth Busters don't prove anything to be true or false. It's a TV show.

The engines don't give a fuck what the wheels are doing, The plane moves forward via thrust.
>thrust: the propulsive force of a jet or rocket engine
The plane will 'outrun' the conveyor as if it weren't there at all, there is nothing a conveyor belt can do to prevent a vehicle using propulsion from moving, the only thing it could effect is wheel speed, which is irreverent. The wheels on a plane are a solution to reduce friction between the plane and the ground only. (And by 'only' I mean in this context, as they contribute braking, steering and suspension etc)

fake and gay

I've been trying to tell these subs, but they're not listening.

Sup Forumselieve what you want

go back to /sci/ faggot

>Will it take off Sup Forums?

How fucking stupid are you?

No...without reading any of the rest of this stupid thread...

Airplanes need lift to fly created by wind speed under the wings. Wheels turning on a conveyor belt won't do shit.

If the conveyor moves the plane back by the exact amount that the wheels would be moving forward (what is friction) the wheels would end up moving faster and faster until mechanical failure and the plane would collapse on the spot.

So the opposing force applied to wheels doesn't move the whole system back at all? Or are you saying that due to so little friction the effect is too small to slow horizontal forward motion?

No it wont. If the thrust matches the friction of the wheels on the conveyors surface, the plane will be stationary. Stationary plane = no air movement over the wings. No air movement = no lift.

Of corse fucking not the plane has turbines and that is what makes the plane fly

plane clearly moves faster than that 'conveyorbelt'

Except what they did have nothing to with OP's questions. Their conveyor belt did NOT move at the same speed as the wheels, otherwise he wouldn't have moved in relation to the cones, which he clearly did.

Technically it's an impossible hypothetical re: The way it's worded is tripping most people up.

The conveyor can not possibly ever match the speed of the wheels, the wheels will always do plane speed + conveyor speed.
The conveyor is powerless to effect plane speed, as plane speed is independent of wheel speed, The wheels aren't driven.

wtf? the plane was moving, not stationary.
They claimed the belt moved at the same speed, but it didnt

nope.

No, they're chatting bullshit.

It'll take off easily if the wheel brakes are not on. There's no possible way for the wheels to retard the aircraft.

If the wheel brakes are on, they'll overheat, catch fire, blow out the rubber, and it'll take off anyway. Because the wheels aren't driven, it's not a fucking car.

Check mate atheists