I was just wondering about this...

I was just wondering about this, so about 2 months ago i smoked weed again after 2 year break after really ''bad trip'' as some call it i mean i feel so weird in my head when i smoke and when i smoked about 2 months ago i had the exact same experience as then, are there any other people here on Sup Forums that also feel like shit when smoking weed or am i just a loner on this?

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maybe the weed was shit quality, or maybe you felt like shit at the time, weed doesn't make you feel better, it just amplifies your current state of mind, at least for me

Sometimes I get panic attacks when I smoke but I feel having a beer after I smoke mellows out my mood

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I thought that was the reason at first but i got it from my friend who grows it himself and all my other friends thinks it great but i really dont

Occasionally I'll get really bad anxiety when I'm high. Good way to avoid it is to do something to take your mind off shit. I'm a terrible artist but I like to just doodle when I'm high and it keeps me from tweaking

i dont get panic attacks though i just feel really weird

I'm just asking not in a rude way or anything but why would you smoke something that makes you anxious?

Anxiety is often a normal part of the high at the beginning right after smoking, but it normally goes away after the initial rush.
Strains also matter, I'm a regular user and some strains still make me paranoid.
Also harvesting early can exacerbate the anxiety effects because of "science and chemistry" I can't explain without getting out my books.
And of course it could just be you.

Stop overthinking and enjoy yourself OP.

im super sensative to weed, taken opioids since '10. Dove every drug, weed can be akin to LSD for me.

I ended a break lasting some 6 years with a bng hit of wax. I tasted marijuana in a crisp, fresh, juicy way beyond any experience save hell on hallucinogens

Sounds like you’re smoking strong strain high in Sativa when you’re used to a weak strain or Indica.

Start smoking Indica and you’ll be fine.

and marinol, do 70 on windy freeway after getting ice cream with wifes parents. Wavy tripping, yet mind clear and responsive. Strange and unexpected.

Ohh thanks for the tips Sup Forums

OP I wanna know more about how you're feeling. I know it might be hard to describe it in words so dont worry about that too much

I wonder what those feelings are. Is it anxiety being amplified by weed?
Smoking after a long break will make it intense too. Did you smoke your regular amount or did you guage it since it's been a long time?

Was a comfortable setting, good people, stuff like that?

If you don't get any positive feeling out of it at all, then just stop it. I always felt depressed being high, so I stopped trying about a year ago... I'm better off like that, but I still hang out with friends while they smoke.

If hes like me, Sativa is normal mind, odd body, indica gets you headstoned.

OP: Ask about Durban Poison or Blonde Hash.

Maybe in this case you got really strong weed that you couldn't handle.


I want you to be prepared and have a really good time the next time you smoke. You shouldn't have to feel this way, and if it turns out that you're subconsciously making yourself tense then let's find that out and put a stop to it!

I mean the problem would still be on your end. Not that its' "your fault", just that it's amplifying something inside of you. And because it's so strong, you can't really control it.

Maybe it brings out some anxiety in you you didn't know you had. IF you were in that state of mind, would you be able to talk about what you're feeling and what's making you uncomfortable?

Are you feeling your heart beat and thinking it's going too fast/slow? Is it paranoia -- are you worried about ninja cops showing up and ruining the fun? What is it?

Are you able to describe what kind of weirdness it is?

1. well maybe i smoked a bit too much considering it has been a very long time since last time (around 0.7g weed maybe more)
actually one of them was my best friend and the other guys are pretty nice too

sitting was as expected a sofa and just listening to music while smoking also you wonna know the feeling i dont have anxiety or anything but it makes me feel so weird in my head like a numbness it's probably normal but i am not a fan of it

>I'm just asking not in a rude way or anything but why would you smoke something that makes you anxious?

I totally get it. When I used to smoke it it would make my heart beat fast and I'd be anxious.. but because I was really anxious smoking it. I wasn't picking up a pipe comfortably and lighting it and embracing it, I was tensing up, and then I'd make myself freak out and I'd feed it. And I'm pretty good at making myself anxious...

But I knew that it was on me, and if anything it made me see how tense I normally was. It actually helped me with anxiety in this way, and motivated me to control it

It's not like that anymore. It's very comforting. Anxiety will be there, maybe not today or tomorow but it'll come there, but it wont be strong and it'll just be there... and you'll be better for being able to not feed it.

Take this one serious! If you don't feel good doing it you are heading towards serious psychic or mental problems. I have friends who have been smoking on a regular and are now talking to God or hearing voices. These are first warning signs stop it. I am smoking since 15 years and never had problems, but this doesn't mean it's without problems for everyone.

True, well i quess i maybe give it one last try maybe but maybe weed is not meant for everybody

If your family has history of mental illness then dont smoke weed

Yup have 2 friends with a psychosis so i def know when my mind says stop

Why is weed so expensive if its just a fucking plant?

your first one back after a break is always a doozy

one good hit is all it takes, don't smoke a huge joint to your head like you used to when you smoked all day erryday

I think you did smoke too much, and if it's been two years then a single puff would've done ya. You'd be surprised how a little bit would feel wonderful to you. Your tolerance has dropped really low!

I've felt like that in situations like that, even when I thought I'm comfortable, and I'd just feel a burning and some pressure. I think it really is some anxiety that's just building up when that happens to people

it actually depends on what you're doing too. If I'm walking around the woods or hiking and I smoke a bit, I'm more energetic. If I'm on the couch and listening to good music that I get really into, I feel it more intensely and stuck there.


When I feel that head feeling, sometimes I may notice that my neck muscles are tense, that my body wants to relax and I'm just not letting my head lay back.. so I do it and it feels better. Or I just notice that my head's kinda throbbing and I'm like, "wow, I can feel my heart beat more", because after all it does make my more sensitive. Or I may notice that I'm too intensely focused on something, so I relax it.

My point is that it's pretty complicated as to what you could be feeling but I do want you to know that it's totally normal

Smoke less next time and I think you won't feel that feeling as strong. Your mouth will still get dry though, and you will definitely still feel something physically. You have to kinda let yourself go and just accept that feeling to see if you truly can be comfortable with it or not. If not, I mean.. weed's not for everyone.. but it's worth trying to become friends with that feeling if you know what I mean :D After all, whenever you smoke you're practically experimenting, so you're still figuring things out

That exactly backwards for nearly everyone else on the planet.

Maybe you should try heroin instead OP. Sounds like weed is a lot of trouble for you

Do you mean they're "tripping out" a bit more from weed? It's so strong these days and I think maybe they're never truly "sober" if they're doing it a lot. I just wonder about what people notice when they say someone they know has psychosis, since I don't understand it myself

Although it is incredibly deceiving to tell someone that they are heading towards psychosis because they don't feel good about it, it's a huge assumption to take. OP didn't really describe any mental issues that bother him, just the physical ones. I mean, there is a mental cause, but OP doesn't sound like he's aware of himself enough to effectively tell you how he's feeling since he's not aware of his own anxiety

Depends on where you're at, cheap and easy to grow, it's mainly the legality thing

Indica = body high.. I remember it because

"indica"
"in da couch"

Some play on words a comedian made up that helped me remember the difference.

Sativa's the head high.

But it might be reverse for you if you're not a fuckin' human aye

other way around bud

Indica. In da couch.

Get your shit together stoner.

>Although it is incredibly deceiving to tell someone that they are heading towards psychosis because they don't feel good about it, it's a huge assumption to take.
thats true actually

Fucking Doug Benson is spreading "in da couch" around I see

My fukn nigga

i sometimes get a similar high after a t break. i usually get super lightheaded and almost feavery sick then sometimes black(green?) out aswell. i wouldent worry about it too much just make sure to control your dosage

>Hipsters blaming things no one knows about because being well abreast of current weed events gets them higher

It's because weed causes memory loss spergo

OP DON'T WORRY

1. You smoked too much

Solution: Next time, small hits. Space them out; don't smoke bowl after bowl in half an hour.

2. Focusing too much on the wrong feelings

Solution: Go for a walk, use that body of yours, move around. If you smoke too much again and you don't like how you feel, make yourself relax. Lie down, ride the waves of it, and try to see the bright sides of it.

there are 3 types of highs from weed. they stem from the 3 ways your brain deals with it.
you either:
get depressed and / or paranoid
become talkative and giddy
become quiet and easily entertained

or sometimes combinations of these.

that slang for indica has been around for over 3 decades, get out from your rock.

Ive taken oxy and watched all my friends be unable to move.

I was making a sandwich and tossing back a six pack watching youtube. I can take enough to kill you and do anything, mostly because I feel no pain, it sucks. Life is pain.

You're definitely responding to the wrong post faggot

But I don't think your post made any sense anyways. Hipsters "blaming things no one knows"????? I'm supposed to be the one who's not stoned in here..

There are more than three types of sets of feelings

I know people going through serious addiction to hard drugs, dealing with real psychosis, and you're telling me that your stoner friends tripping out or becoming more spiritual is "psychosis". Maybe they're just turning into hippies. Complain when you have to take them in from the streets because their life became a spiral, and try to keep them from running out the door from the shame of having you see them in that state..

Not for aspies!

I mean 3 that are most common.

They are the most scientifically observed behaviours associated through weed.

>if its just a fucking plant

You're really paying for risk and transportation and for the labor in growing it. In legal states you're paying for transportation and the labor and the dispensary's costs as well... that shit goes into the pricing.

It's fucking ridiculous though, but the main thing is that it will get cheaper and cheaper as weed becomes more and more abundant, and as recreational use is legalized and growing is accepted, then you will find yourself not worrying about the price of weed one. Might be 15 years from now, might be 8, but one thing's for sure:

Weed will get cheaper

Infinite number of cannabinoid ratios and infinite number of terpene profiles, more than 3 for sure

The best weed that had a combo of a real good head high and the warm fuzzt metling into the couch feeling was from T.H. Seeds S.A.G.E, funny enough it stands for sativa Afghani genetic equilibrium

what does that have to do with indica and sativa?

>smoking pot is fun
>who cares about the medical research

stoners like you are why it's taken so long for it to be legal.

Yeah you're right if you were to like split them into three categories it's kinda fair

I think "feeling spiritual" or deep talks or someone just feeling love and.. you know, those general feelings should be a part of it. Maybe the fourth category.

There's always those three but then there's like a combination that makes up the wilderness stoners or hippies or the just generally really happy people that somehow are really functionable on weed

We tried to do the math on how much it costs us to grow per ounce. With 40 to 50 high ass growers and different currencies and electrical costs, not to mention growing methods, the best we can guess is $5 to $8 per ounce, minus labor

there are definitely more than 3, but those are the most common documented through medical research in the 70's.

>I was making a sandwich and tossing back a six pack watching youtube. I can take enough to kill you and do anything, mostly because I feel no pain, it sucks. Life is pain.

Are you a functional opiate addict? Because it's the worst fucking thing to be hooked on, especially since it's seriously such a simple basic numbiness feeling and high.

I worked with the Dr that wrote the bill for medical in TN, nigger.

LIVE THE LIFE! Used in while in the Army, you have any idea how many soldiers have known THC in their system and are not kicked out?!

yeah, recently historians, doctors and archeologists / paleantologists are suggesting that primitive man injested magic mushrooms and weed and other psychadelic plants to learn about nature, and that it is possibly where our drive to associate the material world with a spiritual world comes from.

Congratulations, you grew out of it. If it gives you horrible anxiety one time it will again, and again, and again. Move on and consider yourself lucky, not very many successful people smoke weed.

Ah, I only collect grow books, have most printed between the 60's and now

how is this relative to the topic we are discussing?

are you sure you don't have autism?

yeah unfortunately the only research into how it affects moods and behaviour comes from the 70's and 60's when it wasn't as taboo to do a doctorate on marijuana, the field is only now reopening due to legalisation.

Any time somebody asks a weed question here it almost always turns into a general weed thread

Terpenes and their affects need to be studied more, some books have some on them, but not much

Daily smoker here

Been smoking for 2 years now and i still get shitty highs once in a while

The trick is to not get too high

>sometimes if i smoke too much or take a few dabs, ill get so high that i have to sit down or lay down just from the light headedness
>Makes me feel like im about to pass out

The trick is to only smoke a bit at a time especially with the 2 year break... try to watch something funny or have some good conversation while high...also always remember that its just the weed, when u realize that, the trips arent threatening and can even be fun to ride out

>pic related, got too high and had to walk home...shit sucked ass

Weed isn't for everyone.
Some people get paranoid instead of creative. Sorry brother. Have a beer.

yeah that's because of the limited research only being done before the US decided to have a war on drugs and include marijuana as a cat. 3 drug along with morphine and MDMA, but that dude is only bringing up working with that doc to me because I told him not caring about the medical research of marijuana and labeling those who do it as aspies is partly the reason stoners aren't taken seriously about legalisation, it's nothing about this being a general discussion he is literally autistic.

everything is connected
> this equation is wrong
> me circa 1997

In Denver prices are dropping to about a 100 dollars an ounce, its actually a problem for dispensaries. It's why wax and edibles are a bigger business over there, you can't justify the price of raw bud in a legal state.

lol i was not meant to start a debate about weed but this is pretty interesting

by that statement, talking about my underwear in this thread is perfectly acceptable.

however, it is still irrelevant to the discussion.

>you have any idea how many soldiers have known THC in their system and are not kicked out?!

how is this relevant medical research of marijuana? since it isn't, why do I give a shit about soldiers using THC?

answer: it's not and I don't.

I don't like selling to dispensaries, they changed the name of my strain. Grew a nice batch of AK47, they said nobody likes "old strains". It was a beautiful batch, I just wanted to see what they'd offer for some quick money.
They sold it as a Kush strain, didn't look like one, smell like one or have the affect of a kush.

You are much better off going black market, most growers dumb their B Grade stuff at dispensaries and sell the good stuff to friends

>dumb
That's me, I meant *Dump

Check out icmag forums, you might find some good reading there.
Many breeders go there and a guy that helps run GW Pharma

I mean sure they have the effects of the strain listed there, but what medical researchers would do is see if it affects people with known psychological conditions differently from a control group of "normies" to see if there are more behaviours associated with the drug of marijuana than the 3 main behaviours catagorized in the 60's and 70's.

you know, actual medical research, like the kind that can only happen through legalisation by medical and scientific professionals.

I mean I'd much rather have dispensaries switch the names to market old stuff as new than go to prison. I don't see how anyone could complain about legalization, even if there is a little bit of big business bullshit at the dispensaries. And the point is that pretty soon bud will be dirt cheap in legal states, way cheaper than it will ever be on the black market.

it's already 5 dollars a gram medicinally in Canada, hopefully they continue to do that for non-med users next year in spring.

There are researchers and scientists there at this grow forum, the Cannabis Botany and Advanced Growing Science sub-forum is good.
It's not a bunch of stoners, of course some but idiots get banned.
Yeah, but in legal states there's not much chance of getting in trouble buying black market vs. dispensary. Dispensaries are just shady, they also lie about thc% and other things, not that thc% really matters as much as most people think anyways

they also moved into Canada to open up shop as soon as they heard that we were gonna legalize, oblivious to the fact that we are only selling it through the LCBO and they are breaking the law.

Oh man you sound much more experienced and cooler than me not at all like you're overcompensating.

Joking.

No you're a fag

>I am very upset

Who grows it in Canada?
I hope it's not Government grown

kill yourself you slow piece of shit

just smoke more

> A medical discussion becomes a 'hip'-sterred.

Jest.

>I didn't mean to start an argument on Sup Forums

Haha what

Getting lightheaded to the point of almost fainting is not a pleasurable experience, if that's what happened you've smoked too much / too strong shit.

Stoner panic attacks are a bitch.

Dude, stop right now. Do not fuck with opiates if they make anything in life easier. Trust me. Im a recovering addict. I would do huge shots of heroin and work my ass off for 12 hours and fuck like a porn star while the junkies I hung out with nodded and drooled on themselves. People like us have the highest affinity for becoming dependent on opiates. You don't want to go down that road. Its a fucked and I mean fucked road to go down.

I'm pretty sure they don't lie about the thc% as all of those products are tested in a state lab and they have to publish the correct % just like nutrition facts. Seems like a really dumb way to get shut down. And what you're honest buddy just happens to have lab equipment to test his grow? I mean its not a big deal but to complain about dispensaries and suggest everyone should just go black market is really counterproductive, that is literally one of the main arguments against legalization is that the black market will still run rampant and push untested product without paying taxes.

>I go to shit dispensaries

If you're using it for medical purposes, it really does matter

don't smoke that super potent shit. people who do dabs/wax/extracts are especially dumb. well, they will be soon anyways. I'm yet to meet someone who does dabs on the regular not become a useless zombie in a few years.

>Do not fuck with opiates
So much this, kills too many. I was shocked to hear the numbers.

There are also good labs and bad labs, also many different ways to test it, gas chromatography for example. I have friends and grower buddies that use all kinds of labs.
Many dispensaries flat out lie and don't test at all or send to a shitty lab that just uses a fucking magnifying glass. I'm not kidding, you can't trust everybody, that is for sure.

Pretty much all are shit because of the quality of their buds. Growers dump their shitty weed at them. If you have to buy weed, you don't get the best there is.
I went to the Cannabis Cup in Colorado and met up with many other growers from around the world. We tried the dispensary weed and it was fucking horrible, and we tried multiple weed shops. We all got on our phones and called local growers we knew that lived there to save us from the shit weed.

Most labs will bump your results if you bribe them, there's a Vice short about it or something. Most people don't need a documentary to tell them that when there's dispensaries claiming weed with one third thc by weight

Yup. Smoked my body weight in weed. Stopped for a decade and shit gives me panic attacks 100% of the time. Wish I could find a high CBD strain with a low to moderate THC but live in a Bible belt state. Sometimes you just want a beer level weed but all weed is like overproof rum strength now.

I've seen numbers too. Seven very close friends of mine so far this year. Seemed like yesterday they were just occasionally popping a vicodin here and there.

>vicodin

My favorite buzz was 1 of these, 3 beers, and then a joint. Glad I stopped years ago
I've lost 2 friends

>151

How dramatic. You have crappy luck or bad instincts. I'll agree that many of them are shit, but that's the nature of immediate satisfaction for people who use it recreationally. Like fidget spinners, what do you expect?

It took awhile but I found a good one. You could too if you stopped being black and white.

So you'd rather have no lab testing and no dispensaries than having some dispensaries fudge their results. On something which you admit doesn't matter that much. The people who rail against dispensaries because their buddy has the good stuff and they don't need them anyway are so shortsighted. Like good for you man but what about the rest of us? Are we all supposed to go back to street weed because dispensaries are "shady". Is that really going to give legalization a boost?

This is how it is. Some strains are too low production and long flowering to be commercially viable. I keep those strains for myself and buddies. Also, growers keep the very best buds for themselves, next best is gifted to friends and never sold. Then what's left is still very good, but not the best of the best of the...
If you buy weed at a dispensary, you are a long way down the line, and getting buds nowhere near the best there is.

Testing is good for some things, especially CBD, but how would a non-scientist know if the testers are full of shit.
As far as recreational weed, THC % means much less than you think, there are other factors, mainly cannabinoid ratios and terpenes