Are video games the most degenerate hobby in existence? You gain and learn nothing from them...

Are video games the most degenerate hobby in existence? You gain and learn nothing from them. All they do is drain your time and energy, and they create the worst kind of people.

Spoken like a true casual

Meanwhile your hobby is shitposting on a Mongolian origami forum. Truly the lowest of the low.

Costanza?

>they create the worst kind of people

Those people were already low life assholes it's just now that the media can make money off them

Wrong. I'm by far the best marksman in my unit and entirely attribute that 100% to playing video games. Barely picked up a rifle before and dinging sub 1 moa 100-1000yards.

I actually agree

I can still appreciate art and story (not the mechanics of vidya because that's top autistic), but they were my surrogates growing up for human experience.

granted most of the shit in the vidya I liked had me doing stuff that modern society has set out to abolish; not even just war but autistic games like farming and wrenching on machines. I still blame society as a whole over videogames which are just a coping mechanism for society cucking itself out of a real human experience

>Are video games the most degenerate hobby in existence?
yes, buy a rifle and learn to shoot like a real man.

Video games should be a pastime, not a hobby.

one of the worst, yes

its escapism at its finest, instead of making their life better, millions of youths are content being in a dead end burger flipping job because they have a console at home to distract them. Theres also lots of manchildren getting worked up over irrelevant shit like the colour of sonic's arms or the next pokemon starters

>but m-muh story
You can read a book in 3 days. You watch a movie in 2 hrs. Few games are worth that 80 hr commitment in return for a mediocre story.

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But without video games, we wouldn't have

You sound like you're awful at video games and insecure about it. I'm positive that's why you created this thread.
Nice unironic shitpost

Tfw I'm 45 and play 3-4 times a week

>argues on Sup Forums
>thinks gaming is a waste of time
Unless you're addicted to some online game, you're probably spending about 5-7 hours a week playing. There's just not enough good games to play more. I know I spend more time shitposting on the internet and I know you do too.

>You gain and learn nothing from them. All they do is drain your time and energy, and they create the worst kind of people.
>says the user spending his friday night shitposting on a Sudanese yodeling forum about how dgenerate video games are.

This

the whole of modern industrial society sucked the natural parts of life out, video games is just the merchants trying to sell a copy of it back to you for profit

>get home from work
>play CS:GO for an hour to blow off steam

absolutely degenerate

i dunno if degenerate, but definitly waste of time.
all the amount of time and money that neckbeards waste for a hobby is just amazing

exactly, thanks for putting it more succintly, sometimes I feel retarded for trying so hard on things I feel strongly about but can't describe simply

internet isn't vidya

it's similar in a way, that it's a surrogate for an actual social circle of real people.

>Playing video games are degenerate
>somehow watching people run on a big field kicking a ball from side to side isn't

Keep pretending drinking beer and watching football isn't a waste of time as well. Here's some news for you buddy, people have different hobbies and yours can be seen as useless/degenerate as well.

It's worse in terms of productivity. At least you get some cool experience out of a game. Some interesting place you'll remember for a long time, maybe some character you like or some music or some cool scene, maybe you just have fun and feel happy. Here you're just shitposting like a zombie.

But here we're also getting a (diluted and perverted form) of human interaction. Plus, in theory, you can gleam knowledge, or at the very least, the path to the knowledge you seek on some topic here.

>>tfw I go to /out/ at night to explore the wilderness virtually through poster's eyes so I forget the fact that I live in Jew York city

The same can be said for vidya, so if that's your logic of defending Internet behavior, you're also supporting vidya.

n00b

I learned English solely from playing video games

Yes. Op should atone for his sins and burn himself in a fire.

Who was talking about sports here, my defensive friend?

But while we are on the topic, unless you save and watch old games in some weird marathon, the most you'll pay attention to sports is the length of the game in question, which usually runs 1-2 hours tops. Video games however, can vary in length, but usually are far longer than that, and that's not including multiplayer games, where some have clocked in THOUSANDS of hours.

For comparison, other people have put that same amount of time in productive and useful endeavors which ultimately benefit their lives in various tangible ways. Gamers usually just end up hating themselves.

Also, at the same time, you can use that experience to bond with those you may be watching said game with, rather than having to put all focus into gaming.

And if you play sports? Well, you build athleticism, self-discipline, teamwork, and good competitive ethics. That doesn't even touch on the various social benefits as well.

Video games will be more useful in this sense once society is completely digital and no longer really functions in the """""real world""""

I am pretty good at mlb the show online. Society gets to keep me occupied so I don't go on a shooting spree. Win win.

you gotta learn you are dumb. Reading is the worst because you learn nothing from it.

>b-but you're on 4-Sup Forums so you're no better
Why do gamebabies only use this rebuttal? When will they grow up? There's no excuse to play games past the age of 12.

how are sports any better? at least video games tell you stories

I don't need an excuse to do what I enjoy. Must be a foreign concept to you, doing something you like instead of just being cucked by society.

Stone mountain unit 64, is that you?

Nice.

Not only that but, it ignores then central issue that most hate themselves.

Video games in and of themselves are fine. But when that's ALL you do, or the majority of it, you are doing nothing but fucking yourself up.

I spent most of my youth playing video games, and now I'm paying the price for it. I'm so far behind socially, never really built self-discipline, etc... And I know I'm not alone, I just have to look around to all these posters who are in a similar situation.

Why didn't I realize this before? Well, when you play video games all the time, you don't really need to build self-awareness. Ironically, only by coming here did I realize just how much of a pathetic loser I had become. It's a matter now of self-improvement.

whenever I do something productive. I get this deep sense of nihlism and how pointless everything is. I never get that when I'm doing something legitimately pointless like playing video games.
Maybe it's just better to distract yourself from the harsh cold nature of life and your own mortality

that's called addiction.

though you do have a point, I've come to realize that a job as a software engineer is barely different in terms of the grand scheme of improving society than being paid to play games. The buttons I'm mashing at while staring at a screen are benefiting a big corporation.

I have a friend that says the same. Unfortunately for him he speaks English like a retard and doesn't even realize

Video games still have the potential to be the best artistic medium for storytelling, right after literature of course.

Otherwise I think the video game world has stagnated and the fact that Half Life 3 hasn't been released yet and Halo being dead meant that everyone has given up on the medium. It's all cheap indie markets now.

The only knowledge I get from browsing Sup Forums is that I should waste my time doing literally anything else.

But I just can't seem fucking leave this shithole.

Shill thread, abort.

imo the internet and online platforms killed what good there was in video games.

the people whose lives get completely ruined by gaming are almost always WoW or other MMO addicts. And the whole micro-transaction framework incentives shitty games and clickbait. Not to mention Twitch. Combining the internet with games is really where it becomes a huge time sucker. The same can be said about a lot of other things too, like porn (which was barely a huge societal issue until the internet made it too easy to access for unlimited time)

Same.

Kek mongorian orgagami

Then its not a problem of video games is a problem of retards not having self control. You could replace video games with almost anything and your statement would still be true. You can't solely blame video games for your lack of self control or poor social life. If you are getting sucked in by a VIRTUAL GAME then you have other problems to deal with besides complaining about them on Sup Forums. My suggestion for anyone is to know the right amount you can do without becoming a lazy sack of shit but have fun, that's what they're for. I swear Sup Forums, you manage to come up with the dumbest shit to complain about when its not even the topic thats the problem it's the person complaining about it.

>yuor thing is badder than my thing!!!+111++++1!!

Nah, television is way, way worse. Your mind literally goes into a stupor, whereas vidya generally stimulates the mind. XCOM was found to be equal to chess in terms of mental activity.

>he said while posting pointlessly on Sup Forums like a degenerate and learning nothing

Can you not react so damn defensive and hurt for a second and read? I said very clearly -

>Video games in and of themselves are fine.

I realize I have self-control issues, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, far from it in fact. But video games are the worst form of it, probably only really better than hard drugs in terms of useless addiction.

And what are most here addicted to? Video games. You can't run from this problem, you have to name it and fix it.

It's kinda like the race issue and dancing around what blacks with various excuses while not saying, you know, there might be an inherent problem with the culture.

Well there's other zones too. After the divorce I hunkered down and played games and argued on the internet for years and years. Just starting to get back to life again now.

>You gain and learn nothing from them
You gain just as much from watching TV. Then a case could be made for hand eye coordination as well. Depending on the Genre you could learn real world shit as well.

>you can use that experience to bond with those you may be watching said game with
nigga have you ever even played a multiplayer game with your bros

>Video games in and of themselves are fine.
>I realize I have self-control issues
>video games are the worst form of it
If you believe that video games themselves are fine, you really need to work on how you word your talking points.

>the most you'll pay attention to sports is the length of the game in question, which usually runs 1-2 hours tops
I know this is bait, but this needs to be pointed out as bullshit.
Sports have become a 24/7/365 business. There's a constant barrage of sports panels, talk radio shows, and internet sites to keep most people business for hours a day.

And of course, you can't just pay attention to the team you root for anymore. You need to stay on top of every team and player in the league so you can make sure you win your fantasy leagues.

And when the season's over make sure you tune in at the same time as always to watch scouting reports and free agency moves.

I wasn't tryning to be defensive by any means. I just hate how people can't handle themselves with video games. I also didn't want to offend you by saying you have self control issues but thats just what it comes down to. I'll go up to any person thats "addicted" to video games and tell them their problem because I don't like seeing people succumb to something that's made for a bit of entertainment, not a lifestyle. I'd love to help people out of it but fuck man you just gotta say shit how it is sometimes.

Try leaving Sup Forums for 2 days, you'll find you're an addict.

kek

I have many of times friend, easier than quitting video games lel

idk, for me the more I spend on Sup Forums the less motivated I am to even bother with games

>I'll go up to any person thats "addicted" to video games and tell them their problem because I don't like seeing people succumb to something that's made for a bit of entertainment

That's what I mean - video games are cool and fine, but when you build a lifestyle around it, like so many young people are today, it's only going to fuck you up in the long-term, unless your one of the lucky few "pro-gamers"

And don't worry, no offense taken. I actually wish someone had hit me with this hard truth much earlier.

Yes it's totally because of games, not because you're autistic. Women don't play games, you know what autistic women do instead? They just sit around reading fucking books. Now that's a giant waste of time.

Yeah, as opposed to listening to pop music, watching Jewywood movies, or watching TV in a vegetative state like your dad did while "raising" you.

Definitely the most degenerate.

Also saying "degenerate" is pretty fucking faggy. Faggot. I bet your faggot name is Valentino. Did I mention you're a fag?

>If you believe that video games themselves are fine, you really need to work on how you word your talking points.

This here is essentially what I meant.

I'm just glad I never got into MMO's or online games in general. I'm more successful in most areas of life than most of the people I grew up with, considered I'm diagnosed with actual autism (this was before I ever played games or used the internet) and went from being in the special ed inclusion class at age 10 to having a master's in engineering and decent enough practiced social skills to get a good job and talk to my team members.

I still game but I think that if I did nothing but that when I was younger and didn't also spend a greater amount of time studying and playing piano I would have been a worthless NEET. I will say that video game music is one of the things that inspired me to keep practicing my instrument even though I hated lessons as a kid.

>what are most here addicted to? Video games
Are they though? Are people addicted or are they just doing the things they want to do? Addiction is something you do when it doesn't even make you happy anymore, you just can't quit because you're addicted. How the hell does that even apply to games.

Yeah I was somewhat like that but honestly man just take up a hobby. Go to gym, on a walk every other day, or some activity you want to do. I started going to the gym personally because mine is rather cheap and it helps me clear my mind and better myself physically. Just occupy yourself off the computer man in someway and it'll slowly help.

I just have to get back into music and maybe try producing. It's been about 3 years since I've practiced as seriously as I did before college.

Less degenerate than watching sports, movies, or sitcoms. At least you get some hand eye coordination and a have to use your brain a little when it comes to RPGs.

I go to the gym and produce music. After doing those activities I still feel completely empty inside if not more so than when I'm playing video games.
Guess I'm pretty depressed

Hell yeah dude that sounds kick ass. I hope it works out because personally that's one of my passions that kept me from falling into a lot of bad influences in life. Get back into that shit man if it makes you happy, just practice when you can and don't kick yourself if you don't feel up to par with what you had going before college.

>you learn nothing from them

I know the names and locations of just about every single county in medieval Europe thanks to CK2.

That's one thing... among others.

I've had to take anti depressants for years and still am. Just do the little things that will make you happy or go out on a risk and try something new. Who knows maybe it'll click and if not just try again.

Depression is the ultimate fuel/tool in producing good music.

Video games are escapism from the crummy world we live in

I know. But it's almost impossible to do it for more than 15 minutes because I barely even enjoy it and become extremely self critical