I have a super strong desire to be verbally, mentally, and physically abused by angry straight or straight-ish dudes.
Just have my self worth crushed, turned into a faggot ATM, made to do housework type shit for them, made fun of, spit on, farted on, made to freely admit in public that males like that are superior to faggots.
Is this something that could never happen in real life or should I just give up on the fantasy?
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are you gay? there's probably a lot of guys that would be willing to do that with you
I am. But to be honest I have a lot of trouble finding gay dudes that don't have that streak of effeminacy running through them. Sometimes in mannerisms, sometimes just in caddy womanly behaviour. It instantly ruins it for me.
I'm sure they exist but damn they are hidden.
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....>I have a super strong desire to be verbally, mentally, and physically abuse...by the way (my mom neglected me)
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>are you gay
Opposite actually. Mom coddled me, dad neglected me, terribly bullied in school but loved every moment of it.
Bit of a silly question, it's true.
but u keep posting images of sucking dick, i love my daddy...more?
I'm unsure what you are trying to communicate here exactly. Rephrase?
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So fags drink Amreican beer.. okay
Yes! shit like that, exactly. Cocky dudes that know that 100% gay makes are inferior and need to be put to use.
Some men are submissive, and as a submissive male I wish we still lived in a society where the superior regular men publicly ostracized the broken brained wastes like me.
>or should I just give up on the fantasy?
it's your thread explain your self more
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Well. I'm a massively submissive gay male and I have this huge fantasy to be bullied, dominated, and abused in just about every way you can imagine by younger dudes who are not gay (straight, bi, flexible).
It's not even necessarily sexual things that I desire, even just like service would be amazing. Doing laundry, buying gifts, washing far, cleaning house. And I want to be looked down upon for willingly subjecting myself to that kind of treatment.
I want a dude to spit in my mouth then look at me like i'm trash as I genuinely thank him.
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And the funny thing is just be you posting that it turned me on a bit as you're calling me a retard.
That is a catch-22, because if a guy did this with you then he would be gay.
A guy bullying another guy is gay? I don't necessarily want fucked or even to suck someone. It's not the sex i'm after. It's just this hardcore bullying I want.
Or does merely the act of me enjoying it make it gay?
If it is for sexual pleasure of their party, yes then they are both gay.
Who said anything about it being for *their* pleasure? Preferably i'd want someone who derives no sexual enjoyment from it and is just a rather cruel person.
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I mean if a straight man does it KNOWING it is for YOUR pleasure, he is now gay. Because it is now a sexual activity. The only way it would not be gay for him is if you just trick him into fighting you, and he is unaware you are getting of to him hitting you. If he because aware of it, he is now part of the sexual activity knowingly.
i am a feeble incompetent beta male that resorts to feminasation due to my incapability to compete as a man, i take hormones and im castrated.i have a bisexual(mosty straight) guy friend who treats me like the bitch boy that i am and its great...
DONT GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS OP!
Well okay first not to be pedantic but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gay. Bi or flexible at most.
And you aren't quite understanding what i'm saying it's not _for_ my pleasure. My pleasure is a side effect.
Here's an example of what i'm after:
I want to give a guy my money from work, then vacuum the carpet and have him kick me out of his house with a look of disgust.
Just the fact that i'm aroused by that makes it so that nobody would want to do it?
That actually gives me some hope! Thanks! I've thought about hormones and castrated be thought maybe I missed the boat since i'm in my twenties now.
glad to hear, sounds like what you want is to be a pay pig for an alpha male, ive seen tons of people advertising that sorta stuff on fetlife but only through the internet tho.
Well I'm not here to debate that, I think all bi's are gay, so we are never going to see eye to eye. But in my worldview that is gay for a straight man to do, thus making him gay.
Yeah. I had a guy from the UK who was using me as a human ATM and it was fun for a bit and that was fun but i'm really craving being able to see the guy i'm giving up my fag-cash to.
And person opens up the door to doing other menial tasks for a superior as well.
> I think all bi's are gay
As in... you don't believe that a bi-guy is actually attracted to woman and is just lying to himself or others?
I'm confused by your position. It kinda sounds like you're just arguing over semantics to be honest.
Bi people exist. We know this because there's dudes and chicks who have sex with both genders. Thus they are bi.
Like I said, not here to debate. In my reality, if someone says they are bi that translates to gay. I could explain my reasoning, but we will be here all thread saying you're wrong, no you're wrong and get no where. So enjoy your reality where you are bi, and I will mine where there are straights and gays only.
If I had to guess it's basically that you believe that anyone who is sexually into dudes is basically "tained" (for lack of a better word) by the attraction and regardless of their feelings towards women that makes them gay. Am I close?
If I am: yeah you're just arguing over semantics. Words have agreed upon meanings, you can't just decide a word means something different ~for you~. Thats silly man.
>So enjoy your reality where you are bi
Don't like chicks actually.