Is Death In June actually a Nazi band?

And if they are how do you know?
is it the whole band or just Douglas Pearce?

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Go to the Yahoo mailing list for DIJ, Dougie boy actually hates modern europe and goes on about 'people who take but have little to give' from europe and the uk, obviously referring to non working foreigners, as most foreigners contribute.

Doesn't mean he's actually a Nazi, most Europeans hate the "refugees".

Not necessarily. I think a lot of what I hear Doug says on issues like that could just as easily apply to natives who refuse to work, for example, which I personally find more likely.

Didnt say he was or wasnt a nazi, just stating facts.

no politics, only dougie's gay porn now

He has a strange fascination with esoteric elements/aesthetics of fascist ideology and Ernst Rohm (a gay Nazi) and like the effect it had on the world and stuff like that rather than actually endorsing Nazism as a political position.

He did porn?
Srsly curious, any links?

yea hes done a few cameos in gay porn, you have to google it, shit is hard to find.
this user is on the right track

Yeah, I remember it got brought up in a Neofolk thread and there was quite an effort for an user to find it, eventually finding it on a Russian filesharing site or something. I can't remember what it was called.

the only people who hate refugees are the nazis

tell that to the entirety of eastern europe m8

go to poland and tell them they're fucking nazis

Possibly.

No, they're not and this would be clear to you if you put some effort into researching this question yourself. I advise you start with "Death in June and the Apoliteic Specter of Neofolk in Germany", continue with Anton shekhovtsov's "Apoliteic Music" and Francois' & Goldwin's "Euro-Pagan Scene". Before you do that however you should investigate the meaning of the "art religion" concept and its ties to modern paganism. Reading up on what "political religion", "apoliteia" and "metapolitical fascism" mean in the context of fascism research is also very helpful.

This is very true. "Neutralise Decay" is not a racist song.

This gets close.

I am that user. New neofolk thread True, however many non-nazis are critical of the way the immigration situation is being handled.

Yeah I never understood why people called this band neo-nazis when they had songs explicitly condemning holocaust deniers

nazi or not, it's a shit band

Idk guys, he did go to Croatia and hang out with Croatian fascists and shit during the Yugoslav wars so I don't think it's so cut and dry on him not being one
I don't really care if he was because What Ends When The Symbols Shatter? is a good album but still, Dougie kinda skirts the line desu

Oh come on
youtube.com/watch?v=6zqQzr1F7YY

yeah his ties to croatian fascists are the only suspect things about him desu. the rest of the nazi imagery is anything but sincere. which is funny because quite a few neo-nazi's belive hes on their "side" or something.

i don't get it

wrong

bullshit. quit being so naive for the sake of your ego. Europeans have a right to their own culture and their own land. The idea that this generation of europeans has to commit cultural suicide because our ancestors of hundreds of years ago were "colonialists" is fucked.

t. Alt right nazi
Refugees have a right to live in Europe

>tfw you are witnessing the death of the west

>ancestors from hundreds of years ago

wew lad

One can think that hating refugees is bad while still thinking that mass-immigration is a net negative.

Nazi? No.
Thoroughly right-wing and racialist? Very much so

>THE WORLD SEEMS TO BE SO FULL OF SO MANY DANGERS THAT IT'S HARD TO SINGLE ANY PARTICULAR ONES OUT. CERTAINLY THE MOST OBVIOUS THAT SPRING TO MIND ARE THE GROWTHS IN ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM AND OUT OF CONTROL BREEDING. EVEN IN EUROPA, WITH ZERO POPULATION GROWTH IN MANY COUNTRIES, THOSE WHO ARE DOING THE BREEDING APPEAR TO ME, AND I THINK MANY OTHERS, TO BE OF DUBIOUS CHARACTER. THEY FUCK, THEY HAVE KIDS AND THAT IS ALL THEY DO! I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS ENOUGH!! I DON'T THINK I NEED TO TELL ANY RUSSIAN ABOUT ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM. I ALWAYS BACKED THE FORMER U.S.S.R IN AFGHANISTAN AND FEEL THE WEST, BY BACKING THE WRONG SIDE IN THAT WAR HAS STILL YET TO PAY THE FULL PRICE OF THAT MISTAKE. I'VE NEVER AGREED WITH THE PHILOSOPHY THAT IF HE IS MY ENEMY'S ENEMY HE MUST BE MY FRIEND. THAT TRULY IS NAIVE. AUSTRALIA IS NOW EXPERIENCING THE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH NAIVETY WITH INDONESIA. BY THE TIME YOU GET THIS WE COULD BE AT WAR WITH THEM. TRADITIONAL ENEMIES WERE NEVER FRIENDS!"

>AS I'VE SAID IN A PREVIOUS QUESTION I TRULY FEEL THAT ENGLAND, AND PROBABLY TO A LESSER EXTENT, MAINLAND EUROPA, HAS SEVERE STOCK PROBLEMS. THAT, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE HAS ONLY GOT WORSE. THOSE WHO SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BREED ARE DOING SO WITH SUCH FREQUENCY THAT THE UK IS BEING OVER POPULATED BY MORONS WITH NOTHING TO DO EXCEPT HARASS THE REST OF THE POPULATION. THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE FOR THEM. BRITAIN AS AN INDUSTRIAL POWER IS A THING OF YESTERYEAR. LARGE POOLS OF MANUAL, UNSKILLED LABOURERS ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED. HOWEVER, THE OLD HABITS LINGER ON. MONEY IS STILL GIVEN TO THOSE WHO BREED. THE MORE KIDS YOU HAVE THE MORE MONEY YOU GET. THIS IS TOTALLY UNREAL.

>BRITAIN IMPORTED MILLIONS OF UNSKILLED LABOURERS FROM THE COLONIES FOR THAT KIND OF WORK AND LOOK WHAT A HUGE SUCCESS THAT WAS! THE HATRED IS BARELY RESTRAINED INTO THE OCCASSIONAL RIOT. I DON'T LIKE BEING IN A PLACE WITH SUCH AN ATMOSPHERE. EVEN GERMANY, THE FORMER RICHEST COUNTRY IN WESTERN EUROPA SEEMS TO BE TANGIBLY FALLING TO BITS. IT IS NO LONGER AS CLEAN AND AS WELL ORGANISED AS I REMEMBER FROM, SAY, 10 YEARS AGO. IT HAS BEEN FLOODED BY THOSE WHO WANT BUT, WITH LITTLE TO GIVE! THE WEST'S LIBERALISM WILL BE ITS DEATH."

>Q: How do you feel about fans that are Eurocentric/Racialist?

>A: "Depending upon their ' version ' of Eurocentric Racialism, then 9 times out of 10 I feel very comfortable with it.This is how it's supposed to be. I would like to think that the Klu Klux Klan version isn't included in this. Eurocentrics goes beyond reactionary Christian, political militias. I believe in seizing the end of time, not being a passive part of it. "

>Q: Don't you think your vision concerning the history of Europe(which in your opinion is the best one) is nevertheless a European opinion?I'm not talking about the americans who have no past and who probably have no more future but about the Chinese, for example, who were in the past a very powerful nation...

>A: "Yes, I am totally Euro-centric.I'm not overly concerned with the past but, I do care about the present and the future. European culture, morals, ethics, whatever, are under attack from all sides these days. Even, most dangerous of all, from within Europe. Whilst we have room for regret about some of the mistakes of the past (and of the present) regarding our treatment of the earth and some of it's peoples/wildlife, there is also plenty to be content about. I'm tired of being made to feel guilty about the sins of the world. Europe has contributed a MASSIVE amount to the world on ALL fronts. We will regret the day when we let that position slip from our hands and fade from our memory."

That's enough for some people to say NAZI

He's 100% right though. Smart man.

He's not a Nazi till a liberal paid media outlet brands him as a Nazi don't you know how it works?

Firstly, they take influence from Fascism, not Nazism. Second, it's an aesthetic obsession with them more than anything, Doug doesn't actually believe this stuff, he likes the imagery and given Neofolk is an Industrial genre, Industrialists will do almost anything in aesthetics to push beyond limits with disturbing and provocative imagery such as this.

>Doug doesn't actually believe this stuff
[citation needed]

does he have a big dong?

>refugees
*invaders

Filthy sodomite degenerates...

troll

>refugees that go to their country for a vacation
>refugees that are coming from a countries where there is no war
>refugees that refuse to settle in the closest country because some country further is giving more money
He definitely is right-wing
Leftists would call him a nazi if they heard of him

I don't think Hellvis is gay, is he?

Hes a right winger, maybe even far right, but he's not a Nazi

Requesting more of Douglas's porn

These threads are so idiotic. If you actually followed my lead and read those scientific articles you wouldn't say stupid things like and ;^)

Haha, you'll never have it. Me and the other user are the only ones who will ever see it.

At this point, you're only baitposting.

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Poles are fucking stupid though. They migrate to wealthier, more developed European countries and work, just so they can send the money back to their shit country. That, and they commit crime.

>Idk guys, he did go to Croatia and hang out with Croatian fascists and shit during the Yugoslav wars
>yeah his ties to croatian fascists

I have no idea how this rumor got started. Pearce didn't hang out with "Croatian fascists"; he hung out with the soldiers who were fighting for the country's independence. There were certainly people with fascist/Nazi sympathies fighting for Croatia in the war but I don't think that means much considering that there were also plenty of socialists, leftists and even a fair amount of Croatian-born ethnic Serbs fighting for the country as well. Painting everyone who defended a besieged country in a war with the same brush based on the worst excesses of a niche strikes me as repulsive.

The only reference to the supposed "HOS Miliz fascists" that he hung out with that I've ever been able to find was in scattershot German writings of questionable validity. I've never heard of that crew myself and I really fucking should have found something conclusive about them by now, considering that I'm Croatian and have a great deal of personal interest in the war.

The "he donated money to a fascist Croatian hospital" thing is utter horseshit as well. No "fascist Croatian hospital" existed in the 90s. KBC Zagreb is the biggest hospital institution in the country. It's got jack shit to do with fascism.

I think the whole "fascist Croatians" thing was born from the the Serbain side of the war as propaganda, as I'm sure much propaganda was spread about the Serbs. I imagine many who accuse him of associating with "Croatian fascists" do so with the mindset in place that Douglas in a fascist anyway, and so take that label as truth as it suits them.

Damn, I always assumed he was just a leftist avin a laff with fascist aesthetics since he's gay.

I need proofs

you won't find proofs of him being left- or right-wing. do your research and you'll find something else.

The claim was about holocaust denial not left or right, try reading.

its a good size, the guy comments that it's a thick one while getting fucked

this. Sup Forumsdoesn't understand purely edgy genres

I really don't think Serbs had anything to do with it(as I said, the only references I've ever found to the "HOS Miliz" forces were on a bunch of shitty German websites, which makes the think that the claims started in Germany to begin with). Death In June are still too obscure for the average person to merit use in propaganda one way or the other.
The whole rumor always just struck me as agenda-driven revisionism by a particularly overzealous and disingenuous leftist.

also looks good, not too big and not too small

I honestly don't care.

I want a bearded daddy dougie to crush me

He's 100% right.

I'm more of a younger Doug person myself.

Modern day Dougo needs a beard or he looks like he's melting

he is. And what a qt

nigga is like 62 and thicc, yea he needs it

hell be fine

Dont even joke.

d-delte this

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(you)

y-you too

nigga he hella gay

how big is his dick user? at least tell me.

It's not actually him though, just a guy that looks like him.

The Crisis song Holocaust

It actually is him, from his mouth himself:
>Following on from the massive success of Dougy Big Balls' Big Gay Advert on this list earlier this year I have decided to extend my talents into the Gay porn Cottage industry and now star in a new DVD called 'Vignettes' recently released by an Australian company.
>If you swooned at the sight of photos of me naked on Gaydar then me in full colour action should be right up your strasse.
>Like its 3 predecessors, this DVD is of excellent quality and features the more mature man in his prime rather than the rather tedious and stereotypical muscle Mary getting all hot and sweaty looking at himself in the mirror.
>If you flip through the 'scene stills' I'm the one fucking and sucking the Ernst Roehm lookalike towards the end.
>Happy Halloween, kinder.
>Douglas P.
and you can find interview where he talks about it if you look for them
The alternative is a bloke who looks an awful lot like Douglas with a Totenkopf tattoo, no less, starred in a porn movie, which isn't likely.

It's actually Douglas' twin brother Fucklas, two years younger than his sibling and left-handed, who moved to Australia to pursue a career in porn. Those quotes you're sharing are part of an elaborate family feud, with Douglas trying to erase all traces of his brother's existence and claim to fame from history.

He doesn't seem very Fuckless, wa-hey!

There's an interesting interview I found on youtube where he mentioned his fascination with world war 2 imagery and what his intentions were in making death in june. I believe it was this one youtube.com/watch?v=tyjxUEpL2pA

ayyyyy lamo

l-lewd user

>gay porn of older Douglas
>not even nude pics of qt young Douglas
feels bad

>those scientific articles
What scientific articles are you referring to?

I'm quite left-leaning, but I fucking hate the current situation about refugees in Europe. Not to mention that at least 80-90% of the so-called "refugees" are actually economic migrants, especially from sub-saharian Africa.