2017

>2017
>not a communist

Explain yourself.

It's 2017.

Good concept, lacks real drive for the individual.
Hasn't worked particularly well in history,
Haven't fully toyed with the idea enough.
Understand its merits. Still not persuasive enough.
Capitalism has got us this far.

Op here

Just had to say i killed myself because i am a faggot

Its retarded utopian dogshit that fails literally every single time it is implemented

Sofa king we todd did

commie mentality is great
sadly people are scum
thus capitalism wins when corruption is a factor

Also, just a reminder to everyone that antifa and leftypol are trying to shill comnunism here by shitposting a bunch of cuck porn. For reason I have yet to figure out, communist love being cucked white sissies. They hate white people

No, communism is a horrid idea, even on paper.

1917.

/thread

>create commie country
>government somehow kills millions of people
>whoops not real communism guis

it's all about IQ

white european countries have the highest density of above average IQs by western standards. only asians and ashekenazi jews tend to have much higher IQs than white europeans. and one is a protected race / culture while the other is already massive communist and the other non-communist societal relations are having trouble with birth rates due to similar issues we're facing in the west

only by lowering the average IQ in the west can the communist agenda come into full swing. so it's been attacking the heath, education, and even the genetics of the white race over time to lower that IQ so that it can move the agenda foward and remove capitalism from the west.

>thus capitalism wins when corruption is a factor

yeah because communist beurocrats were never corrupt!

>stops being commie the moment the system fails

I love this meme lol

I believe that Marx's critique of alienation was essentially flawed, we do not inevitably attach ourselves to what we make rather what we make attaches itself to us. Modern means of production are instruments of liberation, it was the former craftsmanship idylls that enslaved us.

Also commie girls are invariably doggos once they're over 30. Women have to learn makeup techniques early or they'll never learn how to apply it to their individual faces.

>Saudi Arabia fucking the Oil market in 2014 is actually socialisms fault, trust me i know things

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>the fact that their entire house of cards caved in on itself because of one hiccup in the economy is totally not their own retarded fault, its DA EVIL CAPITALIST!

whoa, so this is the power, of gommunism!

>mfw I ask the Americans for help to take my country back, but they refuse because France is "muh ally"
>mfw I kick French rule out of my country anyway
>mfw I humiliate the most powerful government for over 20 years as they interfere with the civil war and ultimately the unification of my country
>mfw USA ended up creating a communist state by refusing to help initially against the French
>mfw my country is still socially divided to this day, because Americans made the wrong choice at every opportunity they had to help

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Well, I am.

>Human nature argument with no one historical proof. "It's human nature cause I said so".
Cooperation took humanity from being nomads to this.

>Stalin killed 4392049000020239340 people.
Bullshit western propaganda with almost no evidence. The government don't control the climate, in rural societies, starvation was a posibility. In a capitalism it's a accepted reality that people starve to death when poor, but somehow some think that it's the fault of the government when it happens in socialist states.

>being so retarded that you couldnt even understand the very basic concepts the Vietnam doc on PBS was spelling out for you

>Bullshit western propaganda

oh great, here comes the edgy holocaust denier

b-but I am

>An American tries to explain to a Vietnamese what happened

what the absolute fuck is this

I understand basic economics and human liberty

leftism.

Reminder that communism would just be allowing faggots like this to control every aspect of your life

No, communism is the single most selfish ideology there is, it's literally I'm here I'm breathing give me crap, you force someone to give up their hard work to someone else at gun point. Capitalism is the contrary, you give something to someone and he will give you something in return. Communism is rape, Capitalism is consensual sex.

I like eating more than ideology for breakfast

>Start socialist reforms
>healthcare education, all that good shit
>capitalists go "back off from muh profits ja eivl fuck"
>no, you actually have to pay taxes now
>"we're leaving"
>well fuck
>well theres still the 3rd largest oil reserves in the world
>nationalise that shit and use the income for your reforms
>goes pretty well, amerilards assmad, some minor sanctions whatever...
>still have the russians
>Saudi Arabia floods the oil market in its gulf pissing contest
>Russias economy is tanked by sanction over crimea
>US tightens sanctions, private buisness stop exporting to you for the lols
>A totally organic protest movement defintely not funded by the cia starts peacefully protesting your government
>by which i mean they burn black people in the streets
>use the Police and National Guard to crack down on them
>"Oh look how bad hes treating his people lets sanction him some more"

Yeah...totally only the fault of the venezuelan governement...

>2017
>not killing yourself
Explain yourself

/bread

When will the real communism be released? I always hear rumors about it, but everyone says it hasn't been released yet. Thanks!

>Yeah...totally only the fault of the venezuelan governement...

yeah you dumbass, it is. Maybe you shouldnt have been fucking retards who put all your stock into taking money directly from oil and turning it into gibsmedats. How many more socialist utopias will need to fail before you get it through your thick skull that marx and his followers were fucking retards?

>Capitalism is consensual sex

>fuck with me or strave
>not rape

Ok mate, looking forward to robbing you and calling it a consensual exchange. because you made an informed free choice...you either give me your wallet, or i stab you...

you had muh free choice

it has
g o o g l e

E Z L N

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>sigh
>these threads continue to escape from Sup Forums

>literally proving his point by chimping out

lol. Good thing communist in the west are all pathetic cucks and pussies.

I like to eat.

Robbing me isn't a consensual exchange, you give me something for something that I have and it's capitalism, to rob me you'd need to have nothing in the first place, and that's what you have under communism

>oh haha you reacted by hyperbole so now i can declare the argument won and will only respond in dumb buzzwords

your reading comprehension skills are severly lacking, faggot.
said that corruption is inherent in any human society including communism, which is the sole reason why capitalism is a better system.

Dick and balls

man i really feel like i lost that argument after you postet the funny reaction face, what a shame

>hasn't seen modern day china
can sustain more people living better, is projected to have a larger GDP soon, has surpassed the united states of cucks technologically, and is communist...

no, I won because of the fact that ever single communist society fails horribly and only retards still believe it can work.

whats the definition of insanity again?

If you think China is communist you need help

>you give me something for something that I have and it's capitalism
You give me the goods (your shit) for my service (not stabbing your pelvic artery)

>saudis were the ones buying all the stolen oil from isis, not china!
>the u.s and eurocucks weren't the ones who manipulated the market of oil prices in an attempt to fuck over russia (literally impossible, so idk why they would)
you're clearly stupid

>no i won by declaring my preconcived notion to be true
ok mate

>Thinking China isnt communist
Wew lad

>a fringe group of 3,000 Marxist spics that has no actual power, no official territory, and are not recognized by anyone other than their members
That's your example for a working system. What other reaction should one have besides laughing?

Im talking about SA flooding the oil market to hurt iran in their cold war, idk wtf you are talking about...

Once again, that is communism. Give us your labour or we kill you or put you in a gulag.
You threatening me is not an exchange you idiot.

>a narco state setup by the cia whos criminals only attained power because of the US's legislation giving psychopathic south american criminals all the wealth wasn't teetering between collapse and stability
the fall of oil prices was only the straw that broke their back.

>mfw my country is still socially divided to this day, because Americans made the wrong choice at every opportunity they had to help
mfw u don't understand that war is americas bread and butter
they don't want to win wars, they want to perpetuate them for as long as possible.
you can usually tell when the criminals and psychopaths are in power in the US by what wars they enter or even manufacture.

>the collapse of the soviet union, the eastern bloc, the fall of the berlin wall, maos policies being a complete and utter failure and China turning to capitalism the moment he died and every other meme communist country being some third world shithole with a defacto king in power living in luxory while the poor live in shit is a preconviced notion!

sure thing little boy, whatever helps you sleep at night

please, comrades, support my thread: i fix

It's not even a good concept.

Kys

dumbass, the fact that ONE hiccup brought the entire fucking thing crashing down means it was shit. How retarded are you? Notice how America is still standing after the 2008 wall street bullshit? Notice how America didnt completely destory itself after the great depression?

They have territory and they have a (super-)regional support base. A functioning, selfsustaining economy, a military (which is the 3k people you are talking about) which defends them from agression, and has done so for over 20 years now. And a body of local governing councils.

Its a state, a fucking small one and without recognition, but it is, defacto a state

>the free exchange of goods and services is communism
now hold up

i can't fix hate ;_;

>Hitler killed 6 gorillion Joos

Bullshit western propaganda with almost no evidence. The government don't control the climate, in Concentration Camps, starvation and Illnes was a posibility. In a communism it's a accepted reality that people starve to death when poor, but somehow some think that it's the fault of the government when it happens in National Socialist States.

Stabbing someone isn't a free exchange, it's not consensual on both sides do you not understand that

Nice story. You write fiction fairly well.

china is just the worlds factory

Every Communist government has been utterly corrupt and empowered itself with literally, the power of god, at the same time denying the existence of god.

The Result, hundreds of millions put to death at the whim of government and total environmental devastation.

ALL STILL HAPPENING TODAY, CHINA NK, VENEZUELA ETC. ETC. ETC.

I refuse to be a tool of the Jewish people

I refuse to support white genocide

I refuse to abandon my history

I refuse to give what I earned in life, coming from being poor as fuck in Mississippi and making my way thru life with no fucking help

I refuse to believe that people are oppressed, fact is they're fucking lazy and blame it on others

I dont like niggers and arabs and my stuff is mine. Communism is cuckism. Share everything why dont they share their wife while they are at it. Oh wait...

So is the notion of "work for me or face litteral fucking death" but thats ok apperantly. Thats not a free choice.The options you have are extremley weighted. Of course people will choose a shit exploitative job, being that the other option is the threat of homelessnes and litteral fucking death.

You will give the robber your shit so he wont kill you. Thats not a free choice either.

ty

I don't need explain myself to you. You're a cunt.

I understand economics.

If you don't like your job, in a free market, you can quit it and go to another one that treats their employees better, ultimately that boss that treated his employees badly will have to change his ways or he will lose all employees, therefore losing his company. You can't leave the robber without consequences, it is not consensual therefore not capitalist whatsoever.

>You can't leave the robber without consequences
You cant leave your job without consequences either mate...

At least the soviet space program was good and we would probably get somewhere if it still existed

You can in a free market, mate. You leave it to go to another one that treats you better, that company will grow because of its good ways therefore employ more people. Not everyone is a robber, not every company treats its employees badly.

not gonna support a system that could get me arrested for having more dread than my neighbor

Yeah, but that viewpoint completely ignores the people with hte real shit jobs, next to no qualifications and no upwards mobility.

this line of thinking completely overlooks inherited wealth, nepotism etc. in order to achieve it's talking points. Communism is supposed to be equal distribution of wealth, with all able bodied people contributing to production, nepotism also brings down communism.

American dog, Venezuelan dog, North Korean dog hanging out....

American Dog: "When I bark, they bring me meat"
Venezuelan Dog: "What's meat?"
North Korean Dog: "What's bark?"

Not that it matters, but because something fails doesn't mean it's a bad idea or never going to exist. For thousands of years after Greece came up with the concept of Democracy as a way to run a government it really just went out of style, didn't mean it was a worse system than Autocracy.

Yea the only problem with that is that 75% of this world's billionaires started from scratch. For unable people there is charity that guess what is mostly funded by capitalist conservatives. You can chose where to send your money and not get it taken from the government for shit you don't want nor need. There is only 3 things you need to easily make your way to the middle class in America, get a highschool diploma, wait until you get married to have children and get a job. Redistribution of wealth and these Keynesian economics doesn't create economical growth, what does is people putting their money in banks that give loans to start businesses and invest and ultimately create a very stable economy.

Commissar visits a collective farm to check on progress...

Commissar: "How is the crop production?"

Worker: "Oh commissar wonderful!"

Commissar: "Really? How are the potatoes!"

Worker: "If we could put them all in one pile they would reach the foot of God!"

Commissar: "This is COMMUNIST state, there is NO God!"

Worker: "That's ok, there no potatoes"

Top kekeled

American General: "When our GIs march they do it carrying 90lb packs without so much as a complaint"

Russian General: "Lazy, decadent Americans! When our troops march we give them 150lb packs and they thank us for it"

American General: "When on maneuvers, our soldiers eat 4000 calories a day"

Russian General: "AHA! Now I know you are lying! Nobody can eat that many potatoes!"

this is assuming that no employers ever communicate with each other. once you establish a baseline for how badly an employee can be treated you CAN leave a job for "another one that treats you better" but expect to be treated just a badly if not worse being entry level now.

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Party official in Cuba was making a speech to a large assembly. Someone out in the crowd said, "peanuts popcorn crackerjack."

This happened about 4 times. So the Party Official gets annoyed and says, "if I find out who's saying that, I'm going to kick them all the way to Miami!"

The entire crowd stands up and yells, "POPCORN! PEANUTS! CRACKERJACK!"

A Russian schoolteacher asks her class for comments about Adam and Eve.

One girl replies that they are Russian.
The teacher asks the girl why she thinks this.
The girl replies, “They have no clothes, no food, and no shelter, but they think they’re in Paradise”.

Just no

Communism is a great concept but cannot pan out in theory until we don't have a need for human jobs anymore and there are plenty of resources for everyone. Until those requirements are met, it will fail every single time.

how fucking bad that fucking image is

the whole fucking idea of communism is, to not center industry arround unlimited profit and growth as those concepts do not work without reducing life to production and recreation.

ahn-tee-phah! :D