Is it redpilled for men to get into nursing?

The facts:
>high job demand
>starting salary in the mid 60k
>opportunities for growth and advancement

What are the downsides here? I'm being serious. How is this not a redpilled career famskis?

Because you look like a faggot

yeah youll get to wipe a retired boomers ass for the next 20 years

It's a god job. If you become a nurse practitioner, the pay is about $100,000 per year.

>>high job demand

I know where I am there are more nurses than there are jobs.

it's a woman's job. there will never be anything redpilled about that

This is a fair attempt at stealth feminization, but we know your game.

Do you really want to clean up old people's diapers?

Where i am, theyre offering a 6k singning bonus

You have to work really long hours for it though and deal with all sorts, some of the things my Mum told me about nursing put me off anything like being a Dr or a nurse

I was a useless NEET up until 20 years old,

24 now, Nurse, 60k a year, worked out for me senpai

It's hard work, don't kid yourself. If you're not a natural helper you're gonna burn out quick

Great job opportunities though

t. Ex-nursing student

>Having a job where you shave balls, clean poop and are basically the doctor's bitch

kek

I'm in NC the research triangle area, the've been laying off nurses left and right because they have computer programs that diagnose. people now.

Where are you so I can send my unemployed nurse friends there to find a job?

If you earn 60k/y or 5k/no how much money do you have after all taxes and shit? because i dont get how could you earn this much? Is the $ worthless or are the living expenses, food etc so high?

With 60k$ or 55k€ you are almost considered rich here in Germoneystan. The average income is only 40k$.

Yeah, the term Europoors isn't just a joke meme. Americans are way richer than Europeans. €50,000 a year is like top 10% earners for you guys, and that's before taxes. And you're the richest country in the EU

Fuck Europe, come home white man

Depends on the type of nurse you thick cunt

My grandfather is a nurse and he's pretty alpha even though he's like 75. He'll always come to family reunion with some new gf 30 years younger.

Fuck mate i would i have familiy already maybe soon a law degree or i join the army as officer but i think is almost impossible plus the decline of the west hits you aswell maybe even harder than us.

But user tell me more about living expenses and tax. For example with 60k/y. How much do you have to pay for tax, food housing etc

Depends on where you live. Some states are cheaper than others.

Being Europoor is suffering. I'm an engineer and earn in a year what a technician would earn without even considering the OT and shift bonus the tech would get. Colleagues in the US earn 100k+, my salary in $ is less than half that

wiping ass

Personally it's I job I wouldn't be able to do - mostly because I hate people.

Male nurses are in high demand simply for their strength. This also means if you're a male nurse you're going to automatically end up dealing with the fatties and unruly. My mother is a nurse and said male nurses get paid more but it sounds like they earn that extra pay. Depending on the culture at your facility you might be discriminated against as women with power see you as a threat but in some places the women all turn into idiots fighting over your attention, which you can use to your advantage.

I admire those who do though! Both women and men.

Just be sure to give you patient a nice blowjob, IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF BEING A NURSE!

>muh money
kys

I'm being offered 40k out of college and I'm about to turn it down

Yeah things aren't as good as they used to be, but still good for a competent person I think.

As far as expenses and taxes, you'll take home about $3500 a month on a 60k salary. Food and housing is generally more expensive here, but depending on where you live the housing is still affordable, like $1500 to rent a house or condo. Places like the Bay Area it's more like $2000 for an apartment, so it varies.

Move here then. If you have a degree and are a good worker there's no reason a U.S. Company wouldn't sponsor a work visa

I do see a good number of part time nursing jobs, like 20 hours a week. So you could do that and be nearly a hiki.

So I should tell my unemployed nurse friends to move to the SF bay area to find a job?

Because in NC nurses are being layed off, or being reduced to part time status in mass.

You wipe the assholes of obese boomers for a living.

>What are the downsides here?

Depends on how well you can stomach the notion of getting covered in a complete stranger's vomit, blood, piss or shit.

There's also absolutely swell interactions with intoxicated/insane patients to look forward to.

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Who cares what you look like. I went to school with 6 other guys and 120 women in the program. At my work I'm one of two men on the floor (mental health unit). If you are even moderately attractive you slay puss all through school and have tons of options through friends and friends of friends. When I went to a campus bar and started talking to a drunk chick, my go to was "what program are you in" if her answer was nursing there was an 80% chance she was coming back to my place because I had something relatable immediately. My second year of school I moved in with 3 girls and fucked their friends silly. You only wipe ass while going through school, there are a plethora of jobs where that is not required. I'm going back to upgrade my degree (muh sweet rn) and will continue to smash loose bitches again like I'm a fucking chad. Then I'll shoot for a job in the military doing air evac. Call me gay all you want, I've fucked more women than you've made eye contact with.

ok i'm gonna be a nurse. you've convinced me.

The question is, do you enjoy the job? Do you find it fulfilling? I get the job security, being neo-chad and all that, thing is not everyone is suited to medical, with blood and needles and all that.

So as far as finding value in your work is concerned, was it worth it?

I'm asking because the nurses I know (one is male) are just naturally caring people and want to care for people. Most men are not really like this in my experience.

>d have tons of options through friends and friends of friends. When I went to a campus bar and started talking to a drunk chick, my go to was "what program are you in" if her answer was nursing there was an 80% chance she was coming back to my place because I had something relatable immediately. My second year of school I moved in with 3 girls and fucked their friends silly. You only wipe ass while going through school, there are a plethora of jobs where that is not required. I'm going back to upgrade my degree (muh sweet rn) and will continue to smash loose bitches again like I'm a fucking chad.

I'll take stories that never happend alex for 500!

Its obvious you never worked a job where females are the majority. I have and its absolute hell.

Nursing is different I think. A lot of girls who go into nursing are actually quite caring.

I have a friend in nursing and he has shit loads of female friends. Yeah he's quite the typical "nice guy" stereotype, so I don't think he has much luck romantically, but I know he loves it there and doesn't feel like its hell. Then again he is a kool aid glugging normie.

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i have made my experience aswell.

Having to lift morbidly obese people? That's literally the only reason why people push for more men in nursing.

I was a male nurse for 5 years. Worked in 3 different hospitals and one clinic. Eventually I just went back to uni to get a second degree.

Having 90% of your co-workers be female might sound fun and a great opportunity to get some easy pussy, but it is truly hell on earth. It's like high school drama on steroids, where doctors are the jocks.

Something that happened at every single place I worked was that one of the female nurses would start to hit on me, and no matter what I did it ended badly.

When I decided to go along and fuck them, the other women turned into monsters because I was "taking advantage" of our colleague. When I turned them down I was the "workplace asshole".

Decided to get a degree in mechanical engineering, because fuck women.

>"taking advantage"
Are you sure this just wasn't because they were bitter and jealous?

Do it in the name of breaking down gender barriers

You dont have much experience with women in the workplace do you?

Be glad.

>tfw 1st year nurse

everything going well for me so far kamerat

You have to shove tubes up dudes dicks and help people shit.

Read the file name for a hint. The tree was hollow and there was a snake that managed to get in. Tree got cut down, snake chopped in half.

All women are bitter and jealous. There is no pleasing a woman.

I'm sure some of them were. But not because they really wanted to fuck me.

They just love the fucking drama.

And whenever one colleague left the lunch area the other women would immediately start talking shit about her. Almost every single fucking time. Zero loyalty, despite them being extremely friendly to one another when they were together.

Terrible Idea.

You will be working with women. They will treat you as a workhourse for them as women to do all men.

Enjoy throwing your back out shifting bed ridden fatties from side to side.

I got two questions for you, m8.

>Are you attractive?
>Are one "one of the women"? As in they don't see you as a man

I had a couple of male colleagues, and the ones who weren't attractive at all were just ignored by the females. The few ones who decided to act just like the women did with all the drama and shittalking was just as fucking bad.

Nursing and healthcare in general are shit industries. That is unless you are passionate about it. I thought about becoming an RN for a second, but decided not to for the following reasons:

1. I don't want to be a fucking nurse.
2. I don't want to peak at $80,000 or close to that.

Their hours can be shit too. Ended up becoming a CPA, which you can do with a BBA from any shit uni, and have a low gpa. It's not the best thing in the world, but what is? It's not bad.

I really don't, the jobs I've had I've just kept my head down and interacted as little as possible.

But I am interested in knowing more. Could you elaborate?

i make 67.5k a year in santa barbara, after 401k contributions (6%) and taxs i take home 3,250 usd

Pretty sure the Nursing industry has something like a 47% real unemployment.

Did you ever interact with spoiled, bratty and shit talking girls in school?

Well, they never grew up. They're still the fucking same in their 30s and 40s.

first post best post

Is mid 60 high these days?

I mad mid 60 straight out of public college with a 2.6gpa.

ya, most people e stat, but yes mid 60s is high.

most jobs out of college are around 40 now, depends on location.

>What are the downsides here?

You will mostly be changing old people's diapers.

You'll work night shift for the first 10 years

kek. My signing bonus was higher than the US median salary.
Poor people eternally btfo

>This is before BLM and white guilt

My last experience was me having to do the lifting and hard stuff even though their job descriptions required they do it. And if I refused I was HR told me I was lazy.

Stand up for yourself when they try to henpeck you? Get called angry black man and sent to HR.

Dont want sleep with them, have them file stupid complaints against you.

Ignore them get called angry black man..

This too.

I'm from the same area. All nurses there are niggers.

Starting nursing school in September, here's the program overview from the school I'm going to:

>The curriculum, based on a philosophical foundation of phenomenology and critical social theory, has five themes that serve to organize content and are reflected in all years of the program in varying degrees of depth. These themes are primary health care/health promotion, reflective practice/ critical thinking, meaningful relationships/ caring/ communication, political/ social justice and personal/ professional development. The curriculum is composed of professional nursing courses and series of required and elective courses selected from other disciplines to enhance and support the broad knowledge base required of professional nurses. Students complete required professionally related courses in areas such as anatomy and physiology, nutrition, ethics, psychology and sociology. Students are also required to select courses from a variety of liberal studies and professionally related electives.

Does it sound redpilled to you? Most of my classmates will be minority women as well, so
if I reveal any trace of my power level my ass is as good as gone.

There are downsides to the work; patients abuse you, long hours (same as any health profession), every nurse I've talked to says that if you're good at your job, most doctors will respect and appreciate you, but some will look down on you (usually the ones right out of med school).

On the other hand, it does have a lot to offer personally and professionally. You're helping people and making their lives better. Like says, you can become an NP (a nurse who can diagnose most illnesses, prescribe most medications, and order most tests; basically you do most, but not all, of what a doctor does and make ~100k a year), or in the US you can become a CRNA (nurse who monitors anesthesia levels during surgery, these guys make ~150-160k a year, even more than some doctors).

>the've been laying off nurses left and right because they have computer programs that diagnose. people now.

Since when do nurses diagnose people?

Couple of potential downsides:

>thankless
>LONG hours
>get all the dirty jobs at the hospital

If you really want to end your 10 hour shift by wiping some old lady's ass after she shat all over her bed, go right ahead.

leafbro was talking about school, not work

when you're outnumbered 20:1 by sluts even an autist here should have an easy time copping a root

I'm an anaesthetics nurse and I get paid £60k to sit around in theatre all day.

This applies to any workplace that is mostly female. Even my immigrant mother working at a clothing embroidery has to deal with this shit on a daily basis.

Nurse Practitioners can

I just now realized that. Thanks for pointing that out.

Don't you have healthcare assistants to do that?

>Critical social theory
>Political/social justice

>Redpilled

I have bad new for you, user.

Any doctors getting laid off? I ask because in Ontario last year, the province cut 50 residency spots for doctors. NPs are a cheaper alternative so it's surprising to see them get the axe.

I can only assume you didn't actually read the rest of the post.

>150-60k a year
>More than some doctors

Maybe in a socialist hellhole like Canada, but certainly not in the US.

You have to wipe asses and get others bodily fluids spilled on to you. Other than that it's a great job. Know plenty of straight men that became nurses, one used to be a cop

Pol can be seen as a forum that adheres to some of the same principles of critical theory. We constantly talk about power and control, especially in geopolitics. You in fact practice critical theory, because by participating in this community you also reinforce critical theory. Dumb burger.

Actually just checked payscale.com, you're right. The only way a CRNA is making more than a doctor is if it's a senior CRNA and the doctor was just hired. I stand corrected.

1st year nurse here, I haven't wiped anyones ass yet, tho I do work at a comfy clinic so that may be part of it.

Friend of mine was an MP who saw action in the middle east, went on to be a state trooper then a cop and was on the SWAT team. Genuine badass. Decided to do something new, used his GI bill to go into nursing, and he loves it. So sure go for it buddy.

>You have to wipe asses and get others bodily fluids spilled on to you
Sounds like parenthood senpai

except my kid doesn't pay

Hello, I worked for the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center system of hospitals for three years in an administrative capacity so I thought I'd share some of my observations. Feel free to ask any questions, but here are some quick thoughts:

A B.S. in nursing one of the most versatile degrees in medicine. Even if your goal is to work on the administrative side of healthcare there are some real advantages to going into clinical care before jumping to administrative duties.

Whereas female nurses tend to stay practicing nurses throughout their careers, men seem more receptive to jumping around within an organization. They generally achieve the same level of degree attainment, though.

the money is nice but being a male and wearing scrubs? lol i'd rather make 15k less and still retain some pride

>What are the downsides here?

working with women

>go to dental school
>start at 200+
i'm all set

To any nurses/nursing students on here, how difficult is a 4 year nursing program? I've looked through my textbooks and none of it seems especially difficult; not easy, but not as challenging as most nurses I talk to make it out to be (but I haven't gone to school, so I'm in no place to challenge their statements). On the other hand they also talk about how they spent their first few years partying and procrastinating, which I don't do (I'm not paying 6k a year to gossip and watch netflix on my free time). So assuming I don't act like an idiot, how bad is it actually?

It's dominated by women.

If you can deal with a female-dominated work environment, then go for it.

It seems less gross with a baby. It's different with a sick adult.

No it's competitive, at least make sure they have a job before moving. Pay is fucking good though

Is there any chance at all for a nurse with a bachelor of science to go into medicine, or is it basically impossible? It's an idea I've had, but I'm probably going to just go NP.

Taxes are very high in CA
t. Bay Area

This is generally only true when you're interacting directly with patients. If you look in any UPMC directory (you'd likely need to go to the hospitals) you'll find nurses in every department.

I worked in a hospital for many years as a patient transporter. Basically somebody who would pick you up from your room and wheel you around for your tests.

3/4ths of the nurses are jaded and scatterbrained from trying to balance life and family around such a mentally challenging job. There is much more to it than wiping old peoples asses, for that matter, ass wiping detail is delegated to nursing aids. Most of your time is spent taking verbal abuse from patients and family members who are stressed out and pissed off. Youll spend alot of time apologizing for doctors who feel apologizing for mistakes is below them. Your more easier tasks will be trying to replace iv lines that people with the worst veins in the world rip out. Talk about stressed out, try getting a needle in the blown out veins of a 70 year old woman with dementia. But medicine time has to be chill right? Wrong, dont forget your in a setting full of drugs and people who have become strung out on drugs. And its your job to tell them no when they come crawling out of bed every hour begging for them. 7/10ths of the arguments youll be in will have to do with medicine time.

I could go on, but really, the job is terrible. They meme people into believing that they are working for the greater good and helping people it doesnt take you long to become disenfranchised with the slaughterhouse/production line truth of the situation.


If you do become a nurse, go for clinic work. Preferably with a doctor who isnt there for the money.

> cleaning up bodily fluids all day
> dat pharmacy tho

It's hard work, but well paid. If you can be good at it and do it for 30 years without killing yourself, go for it.

Fuck your honesty user, this is exactly what I didn't want to hear.

I'm unsure of what you're asking. As you're Canadian, I'm going to preface my answer with ''applies to U.S. medical applicants only.''

If you have a 4-year degree from an accredited university, whether it is a B.A. or B.S., it's absolutely possible for you to move into a nursing career. You'll want to look up ''fast-track nursing programs.'' Basically, these are intensive, 2-year programs designed for those who have a college education but would like to being a career in nursing.

If you're talking about going into nursing before going to medical school, it's possible as almost all of your medical school pre-reqs will be met in a good B.S.N. program. There may be a few you'll have to take before taking the MCAT and applying, but it's not an overly burdensome amount. It would be markedly more difficult for, say, an philosophy major to meet the requirements for admissions to medical school than a B.S. of any kind, really.

You'll get bullied by women. I'm a medical intern and the male nurses get treated like shit.

Thanks for the answer man, I appreciate it. I realize it's difficult to answer due to the different systems.