>Government in my province decided tuition should be free for poors and cheaper for non poors >Have been working and investing my money like a good cluck for the past few years >Want to go to University to improve my life now >Checked on calculator for what grants I'm eligible and it says none if I put the value of my investments >Literally getting punished for working hard and saving in this retarded cuck country
What the fuck do I do now. If I just omit my TFSA portfolio value can I sneak by somehow? Should I withdraw and buy an assortment of cryptocurrencies so I can get free tuition?
HELP
Shit like this makes me a Misanthrope. How is life fair and just when injustices like this go unpunished? I can't even punish those responsible for this pants-on-head retarded policymaking.
Life is a fucking scam. Everyone is just out there to Jew eachother.
Aaron Phillips
ummm are you racist or something
Elijah Bell
These days even having white skin makes you racist, so I guess so.
Angel Mitchell
That's not even what he was on about you dumb leaf
it makes sense. i think it's the same thing here where our government is trying to stop poor people from being wastes of exygen.
>Literally getting punished for working hard and saving in this retarded cuck country if they can avoid paying somebody (even if that persons working their ass off) then they will. that's how it's always been.
Jose Johnson
There's a shitton of girls studying retarded nonsense in University and just using government loans to buy expensive clothes and laptops and stuff(although not limited to just Women).
They will probably never get a decent job and contribute to society with taxes. So why am I the one being cucked for working hard? Anyways how should I approach this problem. Liquidate all my investments and apply and get free tuition?
Ayden Martinez
Fuck off rich bourgeois fuck, we socialism now.
Cameron Mitchell
buy a car
Isaac Roberts
my friend went travelling for 1.5 years on OSAP loans.
canada is good if you in the bottom 20% or top 10% income bracket. anywhere inbetween is shit.
Jaxon Cook
That counts as an asset. And is a waste of money.
how is this even fair. Seriously though is there some way to do this, do they even verify everyone's assets(from googling it seems like a lot of people lie)
Michael Sanders
Remove equality and you got yourself a perfect society.
Logan Thompson
tax returns m8. its not even loans I got near max OSAP too and basically only paid half tuition.
Aaron Morris
>There's a shitton of girls studying retarded nonsense in University and just using government loans to buy expensive clothes and laptops and stuff(although not limited to just Women). >They will probably never get a decent job and contribute to society with taxes. That is unfair.
In Australia we get this thing called Youth Allowance for Australian citizens. The more fucked you are (i.e live by yourself, have kids, single parents etc etc) the more money the giv gives you. I get about 200 dollaroos every two weeks from doing literally nothing but just studying IT (which most of which goes to my pocket because there's nothing I really need barring my concession travel card).
I'd probably get more if I rented my own dorm but I'm focusing on studying right now so I don't care.
And I don't know how it is in Canada, but our gov allows us to pay the degree's fee after we complete it over the course of several months. How's it like there?
>So why am I the one being cucked for working hard? That's how it is for a lot of people. Sorry buddy.
>Liquidate all my investments and apply and get free tuition? If you have to then yeah I guess so.
Christopher Walker
Ah yes, I'm sure society works well when you cuck those working hard and reward parasites
Thomas Peterson
and it's not that most people don't work too. it's just under the table a lot of times desu.
Colton Brown
Can you make a gift to your parents or something?
One of the reasons I am trying to move to america is because hard work is not rewarded in this country.
Joshua Harris
>thinking that university degree will improve your life
Jayden Brown
What kind of society do you think Canada is because you just described it. We are the doormat of nations, not even our own government cares about Canadians.
Dylan Gray
I got it for free and instantly got accepted into uni to boot
Carter Morales
Like 1/2 of canadian pop has postsecondary education. can't really compete without a degree these days...
We get government loans for school that only accumulate interest 6 months post graduation. The money you get depends on parents income and some other shit.
Ftom Googling and talking to people it seems like most people lie though.
Explain
Ryder Bennett
>tfw Trudeau cares more about giving money to the middle east than helping the poor, ill, mentally unhealthy, or drug addicted people of Canada
Ian Jenkins
I have a shit ton of money and I still get paid for studying in the country's best uni because I lied on the application and have good grades. Only an abnormal naive idiot wouldn't lie in gibs applications
John Powell
I'm not even a lolbertarian or something but seriously this country mismanages money so retardedly, especially Ontario.
Caleb Martinez
Actually Ontario Post secondary education (college and University) is dropping numbers.
Joshua Perez
It seems like it'd be easy to check, especially since it's held in a registered account.
Owen Flores
feels good man
my tuition is literally free with the 30% off, my 3k scholarship and the other osap shit
feels good
Camden Lopez
just lie about it, no one's gonna jail you cause you said you're a poor fag
Dylan Mitchell
Mate, the parasites are at the top, who control most of the wealth by manipulating the majority of the people. They are the true parasites of society. Hard working men will only ever be viewed as working drones, providers who are only valuable to society depending on how much they work and how much money they make richer people. Shit sucks but that's life.
Benjamin Ross
DELETE THIS
or help me get it too pls
Wyatt Roberts
uhh no it's my privilege because I grew up poor (:
Jacob Foster
Not sure about Mexico but fraud is illegal in Canada
So did i
Ethan Adams
Buy bitcoins to hide assets. Best way ever.
Parker Carter
As a Canadian this is exactly why I stopped reporting half of my god damn income when I worked as a freelancer there.
Never got caught.
Fuck the CRA.
Mason Williams
So capitalism?
Christian Thomas
the same guy who owns an island were trudeau spent his Christmas has received 300 million of our syrup sucking dollars for "asian and african social development" which probably just means building mosques or migration offices to Canada. Meanwhile seniors here have to pay out of pocket to get rid of cataracts and they wait months just to get it done, but the quality of life for them isn't a concern for our government.
Jaxon Sullivan
Both capitalism and communism
Jace Wright
...
Jeremiah Rogers
fuck off, white piggue go homeu!
Grayson Green
In that case it's a nobrainer but I'm stuck in this one. Not sure if worth trying to just not report it to OSAP or indeed put all the money into bitcoin.
James Bell
What type of account is it? TFSA? Or just income?
If you put it into a TFSA they already know what you made.
Blake Parker
Tfsa yeah
Thomas Smith
ur fukt m8
Cooper Allen
S-surely they might not c-check? People lie about this shit all the time according to internet forums about schooling
Lincoln Long
Well, why you think that university gonna make your life better? That is an illusion, there are plenty of small colleges that have 1 year diplomas like hi tech, CNC and many other stuff Funny ironic fact that those degrees often bring better salary than long university degrees. Also such diplomas make you work with less slavery feeling, as those jobs needed anywhere on the planet. they 10 times cheaper and give atleast same salary. I myself started biology degree, but after 1 year stopped, I couldn't get the cash enough to support such life style, so i went into gardening. I get 15$ a hour and i just starting, hard job, but very satisfying
Mason Collins
Truly, you can thank the failing sh*t liberals for that crap. Because they are the ones who make the minority crap laws and rules. *you need to suffer so a crap worthless minority, that can't do anything itself, will be a little happier. They trying to show that a man like you who work hard, is similar to those minorities. No you're not similar, you're never will be until they work as hard as you. F*ck liberalism
Dylan Gutierrez
>There's a shitton of girls studying retarded nonsense in University
Joshua Jones
Physical labour is lame as fuck especially with age and there just isn't the growth that other fields give you. You get kind of cucked unless you start a business.
Also significantly lower barrier to entry
Quite true though, plus I did say it's not limited to women. I know it's anecdotal evidence but ask anyone about it in Ontario.
Ayden Perez
Bump pls
Mason Ward
canada sucks
David Campbell
I know
Gavin Campbell
I'm sorry man, the same happened to me and there was no solution.
It taught me the valuable lesson that if I stay in canada I will never succeed, so I am leaving to america at the first opportunity
Matthew Parker
Wait so what did you do? Didn't try to conceal or lie at all for osap?
America sounds ok but the niggers and spics not so much.
Jayden Parker
I don't even know what OSAP is because I'm from BC, but I just paid it.
Now I am applying to every american job I can see until someone can get me a visa, while living on unemployment after graduating (working on a startup for resume purposes).
Hard work is not rewarded in Canada.
Colton Anderson
Oh okay osap is the Ontario student loan thing. But yeah America seems to offer a lot better living costs and salaries for many fields, Canada can't really compete.
Angel Lee
I don't really care about the living costs and salaries as much as the attitude of hard work being rewarded, and not just giving out handouts for people because they are poor.
That is very important to me, and despite attempting to be active in politics in my student years I have discovered the minds of canadians cannot be changed.
The US, or making your money overseas while remaining canadian, is your best option.
Logan Gray
>investments >working hard
PICK ONE PARASITE
Eli Green
What did he mean by this
Chase Stewart
Try rotp for university or military
Owen Morales
Considering it desu
Logan Hall
>investing your money after working hard is not working hard
How is investing in businesses parasitic behavior? How does that even make any sense to you?
Parker Torres
>Israeli trying to make Canadians hate their minorities In Canada the minorities are the ones paying the intentional student fee ($30k+ a year) and subsidize research and tuition across the country. If anything the leeches are those going into useless majors like women's studies or communications who end up sucking up government financial support to pay for a degree that will never pay itself off.
The immigrants here are almost exclusively in STEM fields and usually they come to this country as an accomplished family with assets and education.
Liam Walker
My situation is even worse than OP's. My parents make six figures but they've gotten themselves into a huge mortgage with a big house which comes with exclusive utilities and property taxes. Because of this they spend all their monthly income just to get by and have no money to help me with living expenses or tuition. At the same time because of their high income OSAP won't give me a penny, so I'm all on my own borrowing from banks with even worse rates than OSAP.
Jordan Fisher
Seriously. We need to gas these kikes already.
Gabriel Edwards
Are student lines of credit that bad?
Honestly if I were you id lie on my osap about parents income.
Juan Jones
How did you make so much money before university anyway?
I'm pretty sure the government never even accounted for people like you. Who the hell has huge savings and investments by the time they finish high school???
The government support is to relieve those who are too poor to pay $10k/yr for school while still not making any money. Plus coming out of a degree with reduced debt is much better for our society as a whole because then young people can start their lives earlier.
It's also better for the economy because it frees up purchasing power for the population who are most likely to be spending and generating economic activities.
Nathan Clark
Anyone who works during highschool and then a year or two after it and actually invests his money.
Also the threshold isn't all that high. Having over $20K or so makes you ineligible for all grants.
Ryan Roberts
I'm considering lying about it next time around desu. That 30% grant plus some low interest loans would be sweet to have come the next school year.
I'm currently maxed out on a $20k student line of credit and am living paycheque to paycheque working 3 nights a week while going to class during the days and have no clue how I'll pay for my next set of classes. Switching to another job right now to increase my shifts and pay for the summer to try to hack at this mountain of debt.
Brayden Robinson
>being this self centered Can you pay for your tuition, OP?
Kevin Morris
you arent working any harder than anyone else, you may use what you earned better, because you are able to but thats it
Isaiah Powell
I would say just cash out from your investments, "gift" the money to your parents and apply to OSAP to at least get yourself a nice OSAP loan plus maybe a little grant. No use worrying about the government spending money on reducing ridiculous tuition costs for families that would have to drown in debt just to get their kids through school. It's much better than wasting the government budget reducing taxes for corporations or the rich like Harper did.
Dominic Flores
What makes you think I'm not working any harder - I'm not stealing the money I made and make, so how am I earning it? And why did you call me a parasite?
Henry Peterson
point is, the government is loath to create another general of welfare collectors so they are giving these plebs free educations, and letting you fend for yourself because you have your shit together and dont need to be dependent on the government for that exact reasons
from each according to their ability and to each according to their need
Matthew Price
>Also the threshold isn't all that high. > $20K
lol
Asher Russell
>from each according to their ability and to each according to their need Fuck off commie.
Jacob Campbell
The government of Canada knows you can pay for your education without accruing debt so they wont help you. Sorry faggot.
Ryder Cook
My parents make too much money too - not that I get any of it.
I'm probably going to apply as independent and liquidate my portfolio and buy cryptocurrencies, I think.
So essentially I get cucked for not being more irresponsible with my money? Good to know I guess... makes a lot of sense
Hunter Thompson
>Having over $20K or so makes you ineligible for all grants. Isn't that basically the full price of the tuition?
Lucas Ramirez
I'm not sure I understood the "lol" here.
John Johnson
Well it taught me a valuable lesson for the future, leech off the government instead of working.
Nathan Diaz
because you arent working any harder, this ME SO SPESHUL attitude is whats killing communities and nations you just wish to steal it, from the state eventhough you have more than those whose are eligible
why are you a parasite? because you add nothing extra by "investing" into some imaginery paper, you fuel an economy that is based on artifical goods instead of actual added value AND have the the guts to believe you are better than other for it
that is parasitic behaviour, wanting to benefit more without contributing more
James Lee
Did you consider yourself a leech in highschool not paying school fees? Stop having a slave mentality and start considering more things your right and society will change accordingly
Carson Ward
No. Tuition is over $7k/yr in Ontario plus living expenses and some programs can be significantly more.
Angel Martinez
Well, maybe the problem is not that some people are relieved from paying tuition but that there is tuition in the first place?
Gabriel Gutierrez
Tuition is 2k/y in the quebec public system and we had to fight for it. Anglos are sceptical of socialism. Ideally, the tuition would be completely free in public institutions
Julian Brooks
dude, you can pay almost the entirety of it. If getting 20k was so easy for you, what's stopping you from just getting that much again to help pay the rest?
John Reyes
Why are Anglos so classcucked.
Jace Ortiz
>because you arent working any harder, this ME SO SPESHUL attitude is whats killing communities and nations >you just wish to steal it, from the state eventhough you have more than those whose are eligible >why are you a parasite? because you add nothing extra by "investing" into some imaginery paper
Yeah I don't think you actually understand what stocks are. >Imaginary paper What?
>you fuel an economy that is based on artifical goods instead of actual added value AND have the the guts to believe you are better than other for it
>Invest in companies that actually do things and earn profit by providing value >This is somehow. """Artificial"""
You're literally retarded.
>that is parasitic behaviour, wanting to benefit more without contributing more
But I am.
Okay so let's get this straight.
What I did: >Worked hard at my job and saved my money to invest it
What I could have done instead: >Just spent all my money on weed, alcohol and other miscellaneous frivolous goods and been a massive consumer
In the first case I get nothing and in the second one you get free money to further waste (as many people do)?
It's getting punished for working and not being irresponsible with your money. Idiotic
Easton Carter
they worship class mobility, while also never fighting for it
Robert Price
take all your money out of the bank and hide it under your bed
Tyler Jackson
>MUH WORKED HARD
you worked like anyone else not stfu or im gona shove a fucking axe up your whining arse, canadian anglo scum
unironically kill yourself, you have money and still cry you want more money what the fuck is wrong with anglo jews
DIE IN FUCKING CANCER ÁTOK PIECE OF SHIT
Nathaniel Garcia
Did you read the word LIVING EXPENSES YOU STUPID SOPA DE MACAO?
It's like I'm talking to literal retards here. One person thinks stocks are "imaginary pieces of paper", the other one can't read basic english, another is talking about how tuition isn't fair and it should be free that's not even on the topic of what I'm asking about.
Lincoln Perez
>another is talking about how tuition isn't fair and it should be free that's not even on the topic of what I'm asking about.
class cucked retard
we're talking about tuition policy; its like idea that higher education being a right to you is inconceivable
Jeremiah Collins
Higher education is not a right, it is a privilege you should have to work for.
Nathan Hernandez
thats a retarded opinion, highschool education is worthless, and higher education should be designed in such a way that 100% of the population gets it without it being worthless
the idea of putting 18 years to work is absurd. they know nothing, and are still forming their worldview. education is a far better environment for young adults.
also your question belongs on /biz/
Lincoln Perry
>some upper-middle class canuck is whining about the fact that his fucking stock portfolio pushes him over the limit of entitlement for tuition assistance and now he considers to commit a crime because of it
You must be a really nasty person IRL.
Logan Morris
I would unironically become a leaf to be honest
Adam Morales
Higher education already is a right.
It's called torrenting textbooks and using free online resources to self-study any subject you want.
Besides how is this even relevant? I'm trying to talk about how the situation CURRENTLY is and what I can do about it. Not how awesome life would be if there was no poverty, no race, no religion, no war and we all lived happy in a great society where everyone is perfectly equal
Michael Ortiz
Let me ask the same fucking question with another wording then: Can't you work on a part timer to pay the living expenses and the tuition with the money you saved?
>One person thinks stocks are "imaginary pieces of paper" But they are
Jeremiah Cooper
All the commies ITT are why this country is falling apart.
We need to go back to the 1950s and purge them all.
Landon Cooper
>Higher education already is a right. >It's called torrenting textbooks and using free online resources to self-study any subject you want. thats not a degree, thats knowledge you dumbass
take your question to /biz/
Zachary Kelly
How is owning a part of a company that does stuff "imaginary"? Is money imaginary too?