I've watched both press releases, one intitailly after the attack and one this evening.
I also listened to the entire police scanner broadcast. (can provide)
There are also photo's released now of his room that provided press alot.
He had been at the casino since the 28th (there is now evidence he was scouting out another festival/hotel room above about a week about a week ago)
He had 10 suitcases with 23 guns
Fire-alarms were not disabled, his gunfire actually set them off.
HE did not disable security systems, footage is still being investigated.
He did however set up cameras to survail the hallway,
that is how he shot 200 rounds into the door/hallway injuring the security gaurd
(this could also be when he "bit the bullet")
He did not "remove" a window he busted it out, there were hammer like devices found also hurricane proof does not mean bullet proof.
This was not "aimed" firepower. He was shooting at a crowd sweeping bullits. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
He however calculated this all out very precisely and utilized weapon mods that were specifically devastating in this type of situation. The sheriff did state this evening he doesn't believe he couldn't of planned this all by himself but did not elalborate further because there is an ongoing investigation.
So much misinformation was going on as it was happening it's important to let investigations play out...ie turning over every stone, following all leads. I know we all want answers but it's important to be paitent.
I've watched both press releases, one intitailly after the attack and one this evening
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In your little meme thing there? That's some bullshit. Just so you know.
dude i have so many people sharing it on social media it's killing me
people can't accept white terrorism.
>>white
>>terrorism
Pick one
rightwing jihad
my uncle died from this cuck piece of shit. I wish him to burn in hell forever. If hell is a thing.
You should check the news more often. It’s all confirmed.
We don't know if it was terrorism or not.
Country trash detected
He was a white terrorist, the most deadly of all.
Drumpf won't say it though, too scared
I'm sorry for your loss, in his name let's end the gun madness
>Drumpf
Ssshhh, Adults are talking here . . .
its literally terrorism u retard.
That excludes drumpf, even his own cabinet members know he's a "moron"*
*actual quote
If I were a dictator I'd throw all you morons in asylums where you belong. It is embarrassing that you breathe the same air as I do.
man deepest condolences. your uncle went through one of my worst fears. but i will never let these pieces of shit who commit these acts hold that over me.
next drink i pour i will toast to your uncle.
>911
>proof
how are you gonna do that fucking idiot
Morons like drumpf I should clarify
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At least now your uncle won't be able to rape your tight little boipucci anymore when he visits, so at least you have that.
So move to a shithole country
Become a dictator
Then live maybe 2 years (after you get overthrown), death by anal contusion.
How is he a terrorist when we don't know if his motives were pollitical or not?
ouch charlie that really hurt
Lol
terrorism requires some political intent
His actions spread terror
So if I scare a little kid on Halloween, I'm a terrorist?
Fuck off, liberal shill
Quit trying to glob the word "terrorism" onto every white person you can
That doesn't matter. You could call any attack on anything terrorism then. Federal definition requires political intent.
lmao
He is a terrorist.
Terrorism: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
Now tell me what his political aims were.
What if it's found that he did this for gun legislation?
This entire comment smells of an angry uneducated burger
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Yes for the good of all man he shot up a crowd.
GREAT LOGIC.
Herpdeder "what if we found out?"
Are you a fucking retard? You can't call him a terrorist if you don't know the motivation.
Ok here's what I don't understand. If he was a right winged white terrorist why would he shoot up a country music concert. Honestly I'm a very conservative person and most people who listen to country music are white republicans. Knowing that why would he shoot up a festival full of white republicans. Honestly he's probably a plant by the corrupt liberal government to bring up gun control and how evil white people are. And in no way am I defending this man I hope he burns in hell this was a pure act of evil. That's just my bit of opinion. Condolences to all the lives that were lost.
We are never going to know what actually happened here. Going to be the new JFK
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he probably contemplated doing it the week before. i really don't think he cared who he killed.
you are cancer, please kill yourself
Typical liberal bullshit
Their objectives are always the same every mass shooting and it's so transparent
If the mass shooter is white, call him a terrorist so they can try to get a republican to say something borderline racist to use in their political ads
Make a bunch of insincere emotional pleas about gun control (but not really propose any meaningful details)
Blame the republicans and the NRA even if they had nothing to do with it to score political points
Go to bed, kids. You have school tomorrow
Dis es frum.....mahteeylda..
Infographic is shit:
>400 lb of equipment up 30 floors
You drop the kind of money this asshole did on a regular basis, the porters would carry 400lbs up the stairs for you. Also there are these things called 'wheels', 'luggage racks', and 'elevators'.
>800 lb hurricane proof glass
Hurricanes are not normally a problem in Vegas, and I can't really see this boy being that concerned about the possibility the window might hurt someone when he knocked it out.
> Fire alarms
Why does he need to disable 'em? Good guns work in the rain, and the hotel is not going to tune the things to be sensitive enough that they flood the carpet every time a high roller smokes crack in the room.
> No training
No evidence to date suggests he hadn't trained in secret.
> No motive
Last I looked we don't have the tech to read a dead man's mind and extract his motive. How do we know he didn't have one?
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The actual post: it should be noted that the sheriff could be wrong, but it's reasonable for LE to look for accomplices - if they exist they want to find 'em, if they don't exist they want to KNOW they don't exist. I wouldn't put too much stock in speculation - this is just brainstorming at the moment.
How do you want me to do it?
I sure don't want to do it how white terrorists go about it.
Love seeing conservative blue pillers spreading conspiracy memes so that they don't have to admit the cognitive dissonance of their gun support vs their grief and outrage. Human existence is cursed with violence. Welcome to hell.
Ok here's what I don't understand. If he was a right winged white terrorist why would he shoot up a country music concert. Honestly I'm a very conservative person and most people who listen to country music are white republicans. Knowing that why would he shoot up a festival full of white republicans. Honestly he's probably a plant by the corrupt liberal government to bring up gun control and how evil white people are. And in no way am I defending this man I hope he burns in hell this was a pure act of evil. That's just my bit of opinion. Condolences to all the lives that were lost.
Honestly your probably right he probably just lost his mind and wanted to follow in his father's footsteps.
It's not as bad as 9/11. 58 people died compared to the thousands - Trump
OP here.
Thank you for your logic. It is appreciated.
gun control like Australia.. all you people need to wake up and realize that, although owning guns is fun, it's not worth innocent people dying
You think other planes of consciousness have it this bad?
Lol
I support gun rights and the whole 2nd amendment including open and concealed carry, but there is no eacaping the fact that this guy is a terrorist.
Oh no, wait, his "intentions" (which you dont know" were not explicitly political so even though he followed the method that other terrorists have followed, he isn't one. Because hes white and thar offends you. Guess what, all colour people do the same shit you closed minded hick. He's a terrorist.
because he used a bump stock there won't be any gun control the most they'll do to make people happy is ban the bump stock
Americans are more likely to say fuck you to a neighbor than help them. It's becoming shit.
He never really denied the fact that this guy is a terrorist. He's just stating that the way the liberals handle these situations is complete bullshit.
that's unfortunate. hopefully it happens soon so more people dont die just so some rednecks can enjoy getting shitfaced and shooting people. fuck america man
this. white people are no different.
That's not relevant because neither me or him are liberals, so really it's just a shitty strawman argument because he knows hes wrong
This guy's a mass murderer.
If he's a terrorist, he's a particularly incompetent one because his manifesto's exactly nowhere so we don't know what ideology to be scared of.
Getting lucky at mass murder doesn't necessarily mean that he's competent at terrorism, though.
yeah if i leave do they really expect me to still pay taxes?
Are you fucking Stupid? "Terror"ism. The definition is in the word.
It is possible that someone killed him set the shit up did the deed and when the guard was crawling back down the hall, left the area. This is something the left would do. It is funny that all the weapons are the ones that the leftest gun grabbers want banned.
so what he was rubbing one off up there fulfilling a fantasy?
Honestly it's pretty sad that a tradgedy like this doesn't cause us to come together as a nation and support each other. Instead we all use it to support our narratives.
I could see terrorists doing this, not the left... however he was only firing for 10-15 min. what played out before that however is unknown.
Anything existing on this earth does, and probably worse. Can't say for any consciousness outside of this though, of course.
All Muslim attacks are done because they are trying to make the world a better place.
state capitalism at its finest. they exist by pitting the people against each other to keep the attention off themselves and to distract us from how hard we are being raped
by retracting into traditional islam?
fuck that.
I dont remember the san bernardino shooters having a manifesto. They just happened to be brown muslims who also commited mass murder. But they were unlucky enough to have the FBI say they were inspired by terrorist groups even though no links were found. How does that prove they were terrorists then? They were the same as this dude and killed less people. In fact not many of these muslim shooters have had manifestos or direct connections with political groups. You just call them terrorists anyway. But when the shooter is white he can't have been influenced by terrorists? Thats some very stupid hypocrisy.
They know he tried at another hotel/music festival before but didn't go through with it. They know he had cameras set up in the peep hole and two in the hallway outside (one disguised on a service cart). They know he had plans to flee, presumably because his vehicle had weapons prepared.
they are all terrorists. all mass shooters.
Go home vlad you're drunk, remember you only get paid by the kremlin to shitpost on social media not Sup Forums
lmao if shitposters are paid on fourchan then who is funding the literal shit posts?
dont forget he had two adjoining rooms, two windows busted out and he took the time to try to blow up the jet fuel tanks at the airport behind the venue
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such a thought takes me to my core.
nah, it has a legal definition for a reason tard
That's what the Russians want. They pay for ads on both sides, left and right to piss off Americans and further divide us
duh he's right. whites are straight up in denial.
(im white)
10/10
>couldn't of
that's the moment where you lost all credibility, boy.
seriously, are native english speakers a.k.a. 'murricans so stupid?
i see that every day.
could of, does this even make sense to you?
And the law is constantly changing, and is only made by mortal men, who can't be perfectly correct. That is why debate exists. Don't be a bootlicker and use your own brain for once
See
because they know more about democracy than we do, and they are using it against us.
Vegas should be proud of itself.
Ive actually wondered deadass if the kremlin trolls get paid to shitpost on Sup Forums, they do for social media and message boards with news sites so I dont see why not
Not sure if that'd be the dopest job ever or the shittiest job ever
lol one word in the wrong tense suck my asshole faggot
depends if your a faggit
this is what they want
This
I wouldn't say that, Id say they know how to utilize the internet better than we do to push propoganda and bullshit news stories. I mean for example that pizza gate shit, all they had to do was makeup some dumbass anti hillary post and people ate it up like candy
I didnt vote for either of them but it's interesting how the kremlin is causing chaos and making normal americans not trust one another anymore
>true autism
>comparing america to australia
you're reaching pretty hard m8
>gun control like australia
do you know a single law thats preventing gun control in america?
no
you dont know shit
shut the fuck up
Stupidest post in the thread, you win a (You).
False flags do exist, yes - but they are predominantly a far-right phenomenon, because it's the water filter salesman's fans who think they're common.
yeah we just shipost,
they weaponize it.
You've dropped some capitals, Mr. Grammar Sieg Heil.
did trump actually say this?
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