Why are people communists in 2017? are they retarded?

why are people communists in 2017? are they retarded?

Form time to time the most retarded member of a family thinks his situation is unfair and instead of solving it with his effort becomes a communist.
He starts to think that the rest do not make effort and that he has the same right to have the same as the rest,

Luckily in future societies we could treat this syndrome.

Because of the 330000000 people, less than 10% of them know what communism is and only 1% of that 10% know the intimate details about Marx's vision. Communism is impossible so long as people are unwilling to work hard for no additional rewards beyond basic necessities. From each according to their ability to each according to their need...

No human works without reward. That's why communism is stupid.
At some point they realize it in communist societies and substitute the reward for a gun at your head.

Yes

>are they retarded
most are sociopaths or psychotic

The concept of Utopia is seductive to immature/uneducated/uninformed minds.

>>Communism is impossible
Could've just stopped there.

It >>>could maybe kinda

And this is the reason why the USSR pioneered space exploration amongst many other scientific achievements?
They were all lazy bums?
No, they work not for themselves but for their community as a whole, so that society may prosper, very much selfless.

>why are people communists in 2017? are they retarded?
Why are people nazis in 2017? are they retarded?

The answer is "Yes."

Because they don't lick the boots of the elite and want to keep getting screwed over economically like all working class people do these days.

there aren't nazis in 2017 redditfriend. you are just an impressionable retard. I can dress up and say I'm a Greek hoplite but that doesn't make it so.

And what incentive would the owners of the machines and the producers of products have to give away the fruits of their investments and labors to people who have nothing of value to offer?
We are already facing a crisis where the cost of supporting non-productive members of society is the greatest single cost for the government. How would that improve with more automation and fewer jobs?

Bullshit. They existed in a community of free ideas where they had to win favor with neutral parties and try to win recruits in the West.

They hid as many of the attrocities as they could, played the "humanitarians feeding the poor" angle, and engaged in the space race to try to show-up the West.

The inherent inefficiencies in their planned economy, the decades of oppression and inability to project their power led to their fall.

It only exists now in a few places that maintained a Stalinist system of brutal oppression.

They were forced into space exploration by their government officials. You can hear audio of cosmonauts cursing communism and it's leaders as they burn up re-entering our atmosphere.

Yes

>cursing communism

All production would be automated (machines grow the crops, make the food, purify the water, make the clothing, etc.) so humans wouldn't have to do anything... but the government would have to seize the means of production (the machines) and that creates more problems.

I'm not telling you communism will work, but that it's possible but only once humans are allowed to do nothing because we have machines/robots to do it for us. Capitalism (not crony capitalism) is better.

The people who really do the heavy lifting in intellectual terms are people who do what they do because they are INTERESTED in it, not because they are being paid massive sums of money to do it. It doesn't matter if the country they are in is communistic or capitalistic. Both are just systems for generating money. Capitalism works better in that sense, but pure laissez-faire leads to boring situations where the rich and powerful just want to sit on it and don't care about funding science. There is always room for improvement.

Yes, thanks, capt. obvious; the original national socialist workers party from germany is no longer operating in any capacity. Either you understood what I meant and wanted to argue over semantics like a dipshit with no other argument to make or you literally misunderstood the fairly common colloquial use of the term "nazi." In either case, you're fucking retarded.

>No human works without reward
I guess that explains the plethora of charity organisations there are throughout the world, none more so than in the West, the most 'rewarded' part of the world.

P.S. For any Trump supporters reading this, 'plethora' means 'a lot of'.

Why do we continue to debate the idiots on the far right and far left?

This shit is getting old son, fuck them both and move on. Just because the media makes it seem like there are millions, there are literally probably hundreds

>immature/uneducated/uninformed minds
Yes because there haven't been countless studies that consistently show leftists are more educated/intelligent than their right-wing counterparts.

Or people who believe our successors will be able to actually achieve some version of it.

Any ism works great on paper, throw humans in the mix, and it gets all fucked up.

Although the current balance between socialism and capitalism seems to be stabilized. For now.

"reward" does not have to be monetary. People who do volunteer or donate to charities get off on helping other people. The most brilliant mathematicians could easily get jobs on wall street raking in loads of cash playing number games, but it isn't satisfying, so they work in cramped old offices in universities making comparatively nothing because they gain more from working on what they WANT to work on versus what makes them money.

??

Charity organizations take donations and they take a cut of the donation to fund their operations (as high as 80%), and many of them use the cut they take to funnel money to the organization's leaders (Clinton foundation, red cross, salvation army, etc.)

Define educated? I value a farmer's uneducated insight into how to increase productivity on the farm than I do a women's studies' graduate thesis on gender disparity in the work place.

BLM has shut down an ACLU free speech event at the William & Mary College in Virginia.

"ACLU, you protect Hitler, too.” “the revolution will not uphold the Constitution"

it started off as BLM against cops, now it seems to be BLM against white people and the country

on a side not a Federal Judge ruled BLM was an entity that could not be sued. So people injured during their riots get no compensation but BLM can sue the fuck out of Police and the city.

not him and I have no source, but i've read studies that cite both SAT and IQ scores correlated with political affiliation with the higher end tending left.

One thing I would hazard a baseless guess at is that if you travel outside of maybe one or two standard deviations on the political spectrum in EITHER direction, the the scores will start to drop the further from center you go.

>"reward" does not have to be monetary
Hit the nail on the head but (assuming I'm talking to the same person here) it's clear from the context in which you posted you meant monetary reward.

> Nazis without Hitler

Communism works after centuries of socioeconomic evolution where we essentially become Star Trek niggas. These trannys and faggots would be the first to go if any form of "communism" developed like every other communist government.

Of course charity organisations fund their operations with donations - how else could they do the work they do? Also, the majority (>99%) of their volunteers don't see any of these donations.

And your "Define educated?... work place" statement has no relevance to the original argument.

SAT scores improve more by income level than political affiliation. I'm uppermid class (300k+ a year family) and scored over 2300... IQ is also shaky because if you want to separate people by political affiliation, then why not by race? Average white IQ in the upper 90s, Asian over 100, Blacks sub 80.

Stats and standardized tests never show you the whole truth, just a convenient part of it.

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Exactly. I'm not that guy, I'm just saying what I've read. Measuring intelligence is pretty bunk. I'm sure there are plenty of faggots on Sup Forums who can score 150+ on an IQ test but will never amount to anything because all they want to do is fap all day.

you answered your own question OP

fuck off pseud go watch rick and morty

>>>mfw you're all in the gulag 5 years later

>then why not by race
I take it you realise most blacks in the US (assuming you're American) are from lower socioeconomic classes than whites. So, by your admission, your argument's silly

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>thinking people will actually argue on Sup Forums without shitposting

surprises are interesting because they are unexpected.

They want to take from people who work. It is why communism/socialism always sounds so great: no work, take from the dirty assholes who work hard and save.

>BLM
>Communist
pick one

middle class kids who grew up in cozy suburbia with their expensive lifestyle and gadgets capitalism brought them, suddenly go to college and exit their neighbors for the first time; they read some radical book by some of their professors, get brainwashed by other fellow students, peer pressure ensures. In the end you got these bourgeois kids who wants to do the revolution with their Mac-book pro and iPhone 8.

But in the USSR there was nearly 100% employment. Everyone had a job to help society.
From each according to their ability to each according to their need.
Meaning work as you can work and be awarded with what you need to survive, not a hard concept to grasp but it does get straw manned all the time.

isn't name-calling just another form of ad hominem?

Communism will happen. It's just a matter of time.

yea, and then itll fall like 3 days later

It was also horribly exploited by the communist elites, can't claim to be for the people when you drive a Mercedes's and live a luxury lifestyle