ITT: Sup Forums's theories on life and death.
To be honest. I don't have a gathered up theory,
I just think about a lot of shit that could happen during and after death.
I sometimes even debate with myself going back and forth
about it. I guess I'm just really curious and eager to find out.
And stfu if you're going to say, "you sound suidical op". I already know that.
You die, you end. That's it. like going to a dreamless sleep yo don't wake up from.
i heard one on /x/ that said you get reborn as the next person for eternity, and that there is only one soul who lives out everyones different lives to know what it's like in everyones shoes
Consciousness is not stored in a tangible place within the body. The body is a receiver.
Imagine all of time and space as a sort of lattice framework, multi-dimensional in nature and yet all is the infinite reflection of a single atom and all phenomena existing at once. While alive we are bound to time.
as below, you and I are just reflections of the same source from a different angle, bound to separate experiences whilst enduring Time.
man this really sucks doesnt it?
hes says with absolute certainty.
your opinion is invalid
Death is whatever comes before life, which is nothingness.
Man yeah honestly seems like we are just here to suffer. Duality all and though, might be helpful when compared to the possibilities of happiness and joy that we also experience. Would be nice if it were shared equally for each experience ... but then again, it'd be boring to play the exact same game an infinite number of times...
would playing the same game be boring if you didn't remember anything each time?
Life is decay
time is the fourth dimension, while we are bound to it whilst in human form, it doesn't mind our consciousness or "soul", there is not 1 entity, but 13, 12 original, 1 variation.
you continue to experience reality throughout time, being one of these 12 entity's reincarnated.
the 13th is the variation, the child of the dragon, to be guided and nurtured by the other 12, waiting.
Life and death are just stuff. I don't know what it was like before being born, and I don't know what it'll be like when I die. The value of existence, the "meaning of life" is, realistically, whatever meaning you choose to ascribe to it. We're just here, literal stardust with the high opinion that we somehow matter in the sea of trillions of others things out there in the universe. We aren't passengers in the universe, we are quite literally a part of it. Everything is just a small part of something bigger and at the same time, a big part of something smaller.
That said, I personally would like to believe that life is a stepping stone. Consciousness is something metaphysical that we don't fully understand. I'd like to believe that our physical existence is just a learning experience tailored around the idea of preparing ourselves for a higher level of consciousness or some kind of collective experience shared with the whole of existence.
Once free from Time wouldn't we be able to recall all experience simultaneously?
Biocentrism/10
I don't want to share mine. I don't want to be followed
Thankyou. Really appreciated.
My opinion is my opinion, just like yours is yours. At the end of the day, they don't matter. Only the truth does, whatever that is. If your religion substitute helps you to get there, then go for it buddy.
Neuroscience has shown in many tests and studies that consciousness is more of a focal point than an actual singularity of being. Some philosophies and theologies posit that all we are is the collection of thoughts and ideas that flow through our heads at any given time.
If such is the case, we could imagine ourselves as a composite of soul substance, mixing and spreading out as we interact with each other, amounting to immortality as we share ourselves with others and leave our impact on the world.
We don't disappear. We disperse.
Kill yourself and then let us know = profit
negative, you can "play" any that you have experienced or unlocked, to view it simultaneously would be like seeing the planet from space, and unable to see whats happening on it.
hey the same is true for energy so why not? I like this
Remember that time before you were born?
It's like that after you die.
Consciousness is the ultimate gift, use it well while you can
idk ill figure it out when i get there
but then wouldn't we just play the most positive and pleasurable experience over and over and our lives wouldn't exist?
That is not how time or space work...
There is no human language capable of explaining or describing the inner workings of the universe and its relation to life. It is just something you experience, not explain. You'll see soon enough.
Quantum immortality. I believe that the universe I'm experiencing now is the one in which I live forever. Not everyone will, at least in my universe, but they will in theirs.
quality OC from moi
equate the difference to
the feeling of a fucking a chick
watching porn of someone fuck a chick.
...
do you even multi dimensional drift ?
I don't get it. Is the 13th entity meant to change something?
You can spout science words all day long but that still aint how time and space work nigga
change no
compile yes
That would be nice. But that being said we would have to experience over infinity to become whole. Since we cannot reach infinity, does that mean we keep experiencing on and on?
this
he says while assuming the physics represenation of space-time, whilst refusing the understand number system at the basis of the physics representation is flawed.
followed?
Is the world ending or what?
Don't worry brother. Out of all of the billions of lifeforms called humans. There will be at least one without knowledge of knowing that they believe the same afterlife as you. So just say it.
infinity doesn't exist, its a concept designed by man to express the incomprehensible vastness of things.
also would you consider the singularity to be whole ?, if so why wouldn't being splintered be better?
I was dead for 13 billion years, then I was born, I'll soon be dead again.
I'm just a fleeting chemical reaction
Everything ends, but if you mean in your current life time, probably not. Life is just a thought, an idea. Even if we end our lives, it doesn't not end all of "life." We are simply here because the universe is observing itself. Without us, would there still be something? If no one is there or observe it, is it really there? Life is nothing more than observation.
You don't have to live an infinite existence to understand your own position in the universe. It's about adding your individual perception to the overall experience of everything. Your individuality is both monumentally important and yet still so unimportant. Life is an adventure and your just here to be in it. We are an extension of the universe attempting to experience itself.
Reality is perception.
We get recycled into a new reality. I'm convinced we live in a simulation. More so after taking DMT.
he says whilst entirely misunderstanding the concept of mathematics in physics.
But saying that
>Everything is just a small part of something bigger and at the same time, a big part of something smaller.
What else could you mean than in not to be finite. And exactly what would be the barrier if it snot infinite?
So i only exists because people are aware of my existence. Got ir
Pretty much. Life is more of an observational concept. Just my opinion though, your reality and experiences might draw different conclusions.
I agree. It's practically useless talking about it, experiencing is the key.
its cyclic
infinite implies there is no, or cannot be ended.
So you will never die? Or will you be reborn here?
The afterlife is just a bunch of rick and morty shitposts
physics uses calculations within the base 10 (flawwed) mathamatic system.
but you think developing calculations using a flawed system wont mean flawed calculations.
enjoy your dark matter.
anything about death?
You're a clever cat. m.phys.org
You're on the money.
en.m.wikipedia.org
This is a complete mind fuck. It really left me dumbfounded when I read into it
Mathematics isn't necessarily a fluke, it's the human application of the concepts that gets it wrong occasionally. Dark matter is a total cop-out designed to fill in blanks where we don't have answers. Scientists, while they do know a lot of shit, are still human at the end of the day and people make problem.
youtube.com
this really made me rethink everything
you can describe the experience, but it would be like a dog trying to describe Mozart another dog.
but trying to explain it to someone who hasn't experienced it, is like a dog trying to describe Mozart to a human
opinions?
What do you think about deja vu?
I don't know if I believe in anything like a "soul," OP. So as far as I see it, all we have is a mind. This mind is inextricably entangled with its hardware, and is right now inseparable from the body. Humans are purely mechanical (well, electrochemical, but whatever) and like all machines are deterministic. At the concrete level, we have no free will, but at the abstract level that we operate at, it looks close enough to be believable, so we go with it. We are essentially a long string of dominoes falling. When the body stops, the process that is the mind cannot continue.
That's it. Death is a black screen crash that cannot be recovered. You stop, and that's it. Maybe in the future we'll have better technology to either recover bodily from death or become hardware independent and run on something that handles going down and coming back online better than what we're stuck with now.
remember the billions of years before your birth?
Nigger fucked your moms ass and life sprang from the bloody cumshit she took the next day.
So after going "black". I'm guessing there would be a possibility of a reboot in the future?
>tl;dr I believe deja vu is, experiences/memories + location + expectation.
From my experience and what I've heard it is just the experience of similar circumstances to a past experience. I think it is called an "event boundary."
For instance, say you are sitting in your bedroom and you think "I need to go get my watch from the kitchen counter." You get up, walk downstairs, and..... you forgot. "Why am I down here again?!" This is because when you enter a new physical area, your brain starts working in different ways, based on previous experiences in those physical locations. So you run back to your room to try and remember, and after a moment there you remember... "Oh ya, my watch!" So you run downstairs thinking "get the watch, get the watch."
I think deja vu works in a similar way. Walking into different physically event boundaries brings up memories and emotions based on previous experiences either in those locations, or locations or circumstances based on previous experiences.
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Could this also be the past experiences before this life?
Perhaps it could be, but I have no personal reason to think this would be the case. I am open to the idea of spiritual/conscious reincarnation. However I don't hold any believes that deja vu is related to it.
Do you have an idea/belief/theory that would link reincarnation with deja vu? I am genuinely curious.
Once you go black you'll never go back.
Not with current hardware limitations, no. The human body is too prone to decay once it stops being able to repair itself. If the body were appropriately preserved, or more feasibly, the configuration of the person's neural network was captured in high enough detail, I think it would be possible. The problem is that if you lose too much, you're not bringing back a person that died, you're making something new.
I see consciousness as a question of continuity and not a problem of state. If you lose too much of a person, they won't go forward like the old them would have, and they're not the same. This is different than if you capture their entire knowledge, memory, and personality and duplicate it near perfectly. Technically, they're different, but they're effectively unchanged.
With better techniques, it should be possible, but that's hundreds if not thousands of years away.
Sadly I cannot never agree on one thing to say anything. But if it's there it must mean something. and the fact of it being non-expecting and sort of rare makes it more of a questionable subject. But other than that I cannot wrap my mind around it at this specific moment.
meant to say can never agree.
Fair enough. I mean really I am just speaking in uncertain predictions and theories too. It is hard to pin point it to one concrete reason. Even The Matrix has an interesting theory that deja vu is just something being changed/reverted in the Matrix. But that goes into the topic of simulations, and if we live in one/what it means to live in one/would it matter since this is our reality, "simulated" or not.
Questions just bring up more questions, most of which we cannot answer with certainty.
Exactly my thoughts. Well put user.
it would matter.
if this is a simulation, acts of "god" are possible, through a simple hacking of the simulation, simply turning anyone with enough knowledge of the rules regarding the simulation into a god.
in base reality, actions of god cannot exist without a god-like entity.
to me tge most logical would be that, just like before you were born, alfterlife is black nothingness. Once you realise nothing you do matters in the grand scheme you are truly free of your own fabricated shackles.
That's why it doesn't matter, because something did create all of this, right? So whatever put all of this into motion is a "God" in some sense. It doesn't matter if it is a conscious being like a human who created this "virtual" world, or if it is some force in the natural order of things who set it all into most.. either one is a "God" regardless. Of course I don't mean in the typical religious sense of God, as in omnipotent/watchful/etc. I just mean God as in a greater consciousness or force than we are capable of achieving, or really ever understanding. At least from our current time and current through processes. We may reach closer to understanding the truth someday, but there are limitations to knowing what is real or a simulation, or really what separates the two ideas. Because this is as real as it will ever be for people within a "simulation."
in a simulation, why would you consider the person who created the simulation a god ? because they simulated the reality your in ?, he is no more a god than the technology allowing him to do it.
and a god like being doesn't have to exist, we could simply be an unstable "atom" that continually explodes and collapses in on itself. with the odd occasion of developing sentient life during the explosion and collapse
life has no meaning, people give it their own meaning in fear of death, death is an endless dark void of nothing, but you don’t realize it and it’s not scary cuz you’re dead and you can no longer perceive anything. it’s just my opinion and most people can’t even fathom this concept for some reason, fear of death is halting human progress. we should be fucking teleporting by now it’s the goddamn future
That's why I said God not in the sense we usually worship the Abrahamic God, or any other Earthy representation of God. I just mean God = creator. Whether a conscious being creating a "virtual simulation," or a natural "God" that is a force or something we can't comprehend that set our natural world in motion. Either way, it wouldn't matter because at the beginning something started all of this, thus making whoever/whatever that is "God" aka The Creator.
But it doesn't matter because the only way we will ever know is if the "God-like" consciousness/being/creator willingly reveals itself. And even then it won't matter, because this is as real as it will ever be for anything within the "simulation."
So to argue if we are in a simulation doesn't matter a whole lot, because we are at the highest point of our reality and being we can be, since we cannot leave up ascend the simulation.
for my second example i was referring to the "godlike" conciousness, or the "creator" as you define it.
how do you know its not just a seemingly infinite cycle of flux that we fall into or out off.
that being said, if this was a simulation, you could manipulate said simulation to give it whatever you wanted. if it was not, then you couldn't.
thus making it matter.
We don't have control as beings within the simulation, as we are simulated. There is no control or higher level in which beings within the simulation could ever advance or achieve.
Does the truth matter if we can't know it? Say what happens after death, if we were incapable of ever finding the answer, would it matter?
You'll find out though, once you are dead. :)
Or i won't....That's the mystery.
your brain is literally a logicbox filled with matrixes of protein
the fact that we can think that this is a simulation means we have the capacity to learn the factors of the simulation, which means we have the capacity to alter the factors of the simulations.
e.g being a god.
I personally think that nothing happens after life.
Body stops to function and thats it.
What i am really curios about is how people come to the conclusion that there is something.
And Sometimes even give detailed descriptions of the afterlife.
How did they research this? On what do they base their theories?
Is it just a lack of biological knowledge? Perhaps bad education?
and thats why you die - when your brain shuts off
That's not an opinion. Consciousness ceases upon death. Lights out baby
This is correct.
>The following is not sarcastic
I am carrying the soul of a Grizzly Bear, currently. It's been shoved into the wrong body.
I've had dreams from an early age of his life. Absolutely beautiful creature. I've seen him hunt, play, fuck, and die.
Obviously, he felt unfulfilled so came along for the ride into the next life, and things got jumbled up in between.
>His head is mounted on someone's wall, and I get shivers knowing this fact
The Las Vegas shooting was a coverup illuminati operation
>quads going unnoticed
>damn Sup Forums you hungover?
check'd
I think, maybe the only worthy thing is to share "it".
>If you're NOT like me than it's worth it !
>Feeling inside like "the 1 and only", alone, emptiness, pain but still struggling.
>Soulmates, comes n' go.
>We didn't even say goodbye.
>Never somebody looked me in the eyes & say.
>Hey, user you are special, to me, let's be together!
>I am afraid to look people in the eyes 'cuz it's a goddamn universe.
>If..., it's beautiful
>Space & time just gone
>Like shrapnels in the hearth
>"you sound suicidal"
>No, it's just my life.
Dead, probably is the aftermath.
In hurry ?
Have you tried DMT?
The Universe is an infinite possibility in which everything possible happens but we don't always remember it, this is why people sometimes have deja vu. Also when you die you temporarily travel to a 4th Dimension in which you either travel towards a light, a dark, or choose neither. The light is heaven, The dark is hell, and staying in place sends you nowhere. No matter which one you pick God chooses and you end up in one of the 2 Heaven or Hell depending on your actions. In which you spend what feels like ages there, in which God asks if you wish to return to a randomly selected 3rd Dimension of his choice for a lesson of his choice. I am currently learning my 6087th Lesson.