What would you choose

What would you choose

>being a neet forever, watching your parents die inside every day you don't have a job, knowing that you will likely starve once they're dead, also knowing they'll die thinking they made a mistake

>death

If one of the options is death, I would always take death

As soon as my parents are gone, I'm going to mix a bottle of xanax with a bottle of oxy and wash it down with a bottle of vodka.

I would do that but I honestly think it would be better for them if I was dead

You people sicken me

Why?

Well then do something about it! Go out try and apply for a job, join the army, join a gym. Just do something with your life, change it.

>job
can't talk to people, I mean really, the last time I went outside a year ago I panicked so bad I punched a 12 year kid in the face because he was looking at me
>army
see above, also I'm missing a foot from a car accident as a child
>gym
again, no going outside. I haven't been outside since november 2016

What about being a neet and seeing that disappointment, or becoming a trap and actually working toward something?

You need serious help. Go to a f'ing doctor, jesus.

Death

I'll tell you why, because the one being that put you in that predicament and situation is yourself. "away way, my parents would be better if I died!!!! Waaaah" or maybe, your parents would be better off if you got your ass up and went after what you wanted. Love anime? Make one. Can't write? Neither can Stephanie Meyer or that fucking 50
Shades chick and did it stop them? Can't draw? Find some people who can and want in. You'll be surprised how many talented as fuck people are walking around and actually willing to work on a project as long as there's dedication for it. Want to box? Start training. Sing? Start singing. Build a spaceship and have no idea what mechanical engineering and theoretical/astrophysics are? Learn. You don't know what happens at death. Heaven? Nothingness? And you already want to head to it before you've tried anything? That's what makes me sick.

You know, killing yourself can be an absolutely rational decision.
I know myself too well. I'm never going to do anything because I can't put effort into anything. The second I start thinking about getting a job or even going outside, my heart starts to race and if I don't hit myself on the head in that situation, I might even faint. That happens occasionally. But when I think about suicide, I'm completely calm. It feels like the best option. The only thing I don't know yet is how I'm going to do it. I'm scared shitless of pain, even if I know I'm gonna be dead and not remember anything.

>You know, killing yourself can be an absolutely rational decision.

You're depressed. Your suicidal desires are the product of an untreated mental illness.

I know, but I would also consider suicide if I had cancer, for example. Taking the easy way out by my own terms is rational.
In both cases, life is equal to waiting for death.

Right, that's true. No reason to suffer indefinitely. That's also what rationalizes seeking treatment.

If there is no cure to the before mentioned depression, and it has persisted for a long enough time, then yes. Suicide is a rational choice. Although not on the same level of other horrible diseases with no cure, it still is a chronic ailment that has the potential to stop someones life in it's tracks. It is a disease with the potential to rip everything a person holds dear to them away, the potential to suck all energy one may possess just to get out of a bed, the potential to make an empty shell of what they used to be. I don't argue for suicide as a way out for people who have not tried to treat depression, but for people still stuck after every possible solution is exhausted I see it as a mercy killing if they so choose.

> I don't argue for suicide as a way out for people who have not tried to treat depression,

That's what I'm saying. It sounds like OP hasn't tried treatment at all.

>rationalizes seeking treatment.
I didn't say treatment was irrational. This is about priorities. Do I value life
enough to go through therapy? Treatment would involve going outside
or at least talking to people via phone. Even typing this is too much effort
for me to handle though, so I think I'm pretty sure about what my priorities
are.

I don't feel there is enough information in that post to come to that conclusion. This might be the result of failed treatments, and the poster has given up? Depression works like that, the longer you dig the hole and deeper your stuck. Everyone has their own limit to what they know they can handle, and sometimes it might come down to willpower if they can continue or not. It is very difficult to attend therapy that is supposed to 'help' you and see no improvement over years and years of treatment. Especially when you put every bit of effort you can muster into the experience to see no results. Depression also has an effect opposite to 'Rose tinted glasses', everything is or will be hopeless. This can kill motivation to attempt treatment in the first place.

>Even typing this is too much effort
>for me to handle though, so I think I'm pretty sure about what my priorities
>are.

Those aren't necessarily your genuine priorities though. That's why you get help. It's still possible for you to come back to planet earth.

>This can kill motivation to attempt treatment in the first place.

Well, obviously. That's most likely what's happening with OP.

Are you implying that depression is rational? You don't understand depression if you think that these people are just sad. I've been in such a bad depression that my brain has flicked off and I depersonalized for weeks. I couldn't think and was on auto pilot the whole time with no memories.

>Are you implying that depression is rational? You don't understand depression if you think that these people are just sad.

I never said either of those things.

>I've been in such a bad depression that my brain has flicked off and I depersonalized for weeks. I couldn't think and was on auto pilot the whole time with no memories.

I almost threw my cat off my 12th floor balcony to convince myself I was so damaged and dangerous I'd have no choice but to man up and follow her down. Trust me, I empathize.

How can someone rationalize that treatment makes sense as an option if they themselves are not thinking rational thoughts?

>How can someone rationalize that treatment makes sense as an option if they themselves are not thinking rational thoughts?

Someone who can still think can understand cognitively that it's no less rational to seek treatment than to kill themselves. They may still want to kill themselves; they may feel like it's all bullshit, but they can realize those feelings and reactions are symptoms of their illness. It's possible to realize you're not thinking straight, even if that does nothing to make you feel better.

>realize you're sick
>realize you're not thinking straight
>still feel like shit, can't possibly go into therapy
>back to considering suicide

That's why depression is a whore.

may I summarize

OP: I don't like where I am, luckily I know a way out
some fags: No! Don't! Take the other way instead.

Honestly, I don't see a difference between dying today and dying in 50 years. OP killing himself if he finds the courage is absolutely OK. As OK as living 50 years without the balls to end it.

>Honestly, I don't see a difference between dying today and dying in 50 years.

You also sound depressed.

My life is pretty good, I've just always been nihilistic. I know for a fact that even if there are people who would mourn my death it doesn't matter
because they are going to be dead too eventually. And even if this continues as somewhat of a chain, the sun is going to grow and kill us.
Or maybe the Universe will turn cold and dead. It's going to be over sooner or later. Nihilism on a cosmic level.

True nihilism is rare, fake nihilism is despicable.
You wouldn't say "Oh that doesn't matter on a cosmic level" when your whole family dies.
Fuck off.

>I know for a fact that even if there are people who would mourn my death it doesn't matter
>because they are going to be dead too eventually. And even if this continues as somewhat of a chain, the sun is going to grow and kill us.
>Or maybe the Universe will turn cold and dead. It's going to be over sooner or later. Nihilism on a cosmic level.

All that people die/universe heat death stuff is probably true, but that doesn't mean you have to be a nihilist. It's possible to care about things for their own sake without worrying about whether they'll persist eternally.

That's what I said I think his nihilism is fake. Some people use
nihilism as a protectice shield

Going through same thing I'm 20 just kinda invest all my depression into 96 - 05 wrestling, once im done gonna tie weights around neck and through over wall.. im at 97 now, only took 3 months.

> 96 - 05 wrestling
I don't understand

Watching wcw and wwe wrestling from 1996 - 2005. Thats my countdown to suicide weight wall

ok well I gotta admit I'm laughing. this is awesome. can you watch whole matches on YT?

Can on watchwrestling.nl/watch-wwf-attitude-era-year-1997/

Should be in 98 within a week. 2 years of wrestling in 4 months guys.. thats the life i live and honestly cant complain

my main reason to keep going is The Doors of Stone
I want to read that shit

Fuckin seen interview with pillmans wife 24 hours after he died and your trying to make a book relevant

This is so fucking ridiculous, I love it. I mean, that guy died for real and all those gay ass mustache sporting bull people in their pink jump suits act like they're crying

Yeah did the math, i should be dead not even a year from now.

1 year of wrestling = 2 months
98 - 05 = 14 months
Wcw ends 2002 = -1/2 of last 3 years
= 11 months of life, 11 months of wrestling

Steroids make it difficult to express emotion man

OK, watching the interview right now
IS THIS FUCKING REAL? DID SHE KILL HIM? SHE'S NOT REALLY CRYING

I like wrestling. You're making it pretty grim though.

Yeah, but she didnt do it had heart attack in hotel room, come on guys do you seriously not watch wrestling people say its fake but so many deaths and injuries its great. Owen hart fell from stadium roof..

Its is grim, thats why i love it. People in those days didnt know how bad it was, i watch it then i research what happened to the wrestlers and all that its great.

Mick foley alive today retired had ear ripped out, teeth smashed in, pins in head and concussions list goes on

Chyna and sunny - had melt downs and became porn stars and druggies

>pic is mick foley

Chris benoit killed family then himself using a weight machine to break neck (hence where i got my suicide idea) and used finisher on son

Psyho sid broke his leg in the worst way ive ever seen anything broken

Vader cut eye open with razor blade

The rest ill just sum up
>brawl for all tournament ended with wrestlers careers ending due to actually havig to box and getting brain damage
> macho man: heart attack before car crash
> devils advocate: hanged self
> hawk: heart attack
> bulldog: heart attack (I think)
> icp: never got paid for 3 months of fighting
> that 70s guy: suicide
> lots of steroids and destroyed minds

Actually forgot chyna died in 2006 from drug abuse in a hospital after mutilating her self

>Implying my fatass won't die of diabeetus before my parents die.

Chris candido brain vein exploded from plane (wrestler and sunnys ex)