...and yet most of y'all hate Obamacare and socialized medicine. Lol enjoy your debt slavery

...and yet most of y'all hate Obamacare and socialized medicine. Lol enjoy your debt slavery

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Please have mercy on us Europoors

Pink ID, Youre a faggot

>pink ID
fucking homo

Hey I love Europe man...you guys get free healthcare...while I'm stuck paying $500 a month for health insurance. It sucks!

Why are you Europeans getting mad at me? And plus I'm not gay I'm on your side!!

sorry

>.002% in the land of hyper-wealth and excusable bankruptcies

It's okay my Netherlands friend :-)...


Btw do you guys still have legal weed? I wanna come visit just for that reason. top lol!

Do your research cuck. Obamacare is disastrous for middle income people. It only benefits the very poor.

I can't even tell Obama to fuck off, because then I will get hit by a huge penalty for not having Obamacare.

What are you refering to?

yeah we do

How many people get more than 50% of their income taken away in those countries too.

We actually have it better with quality and cost.

Why is there medical tourism in florida from all the Canadians?

don't you have states in the US where it's legal?
why don't you just go there?

Doesn't matter bro, im a bit tired after hours of studying.I get what you're saying but you need to take in account that Wages after taxes are much lower. 33K$ is the average wage here.
Source : reinisfischer.com/average-salary-european-union-2015

.002% is the number that go bankrupt in the US by those numbers.
USA is very wealthy, some bankruptcies are drops in the bucket.
Bankruptcies arent as bad as they sound. In the US, the system is structured to allow people to go bankrupt then pick themselves back up later on. This spurs economic development and enterprise.

Rather go bankrupt than die waiting for a dr visit for a treatable illness

... but my insurance after Obamacare got worse than what I had even as part-time employee nine years ago. So bad that a recent hospitalization caused my bankruptcy.

I literally would have only been out $2,000 out of pocket max with the old plan Obama said "I could keep if I liked"... but that was taken away because as a single male I needed to be forced to pay for a pool that included neonatal and pregnancy care.

I now pay four times as much each month for an 80/20 plan and got stuck with $65,000 worth of medical bills that my original cheaper policy would have covered.

What now, faggit?

The main problem is that the US is facing a shortage of doctors and nurses over the next ten years. The US cannot realistically provide coverage for 60 million plus people (48 uninsured citizens and legal residents,12 million plus uninsured illegal immigrants) with our current healthcare workforce. I'm all for universal if we can get the numbers to line up.

We don't give a shit about poor people. Let them starve to death. I'm not willing to waste my cash on them.

>Rather go bankrupt than die waiting for a dr visit for a treatable illness
If only you could be as good in loosing weight as in spreading memes like that, world would be much better.

it's not socialized medicine.
it's a healthcare insurance mandate.
it's not free and you have to buy it.
also, 643k is less then 0.2 percent of the population .
and the reason they hate it is because it now costs more to buy health insurance.

Wow I have to pay for a service! Really makes me fucking think you know!

There is no doctor/nurse shortage.
The US Healthcare problem is that its too wasteful because of the big pharma/manufacturing industries' interests.

Oh and Type 2 Diabetes is common.

Obamacare is literally slavery.

You are forced to pay thousands of dollars every year for Healthcare you don't want.

>meme
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371861/NHS-director-dies-operation-cancelled-times-hospital.html

>We actually have it better with quality and cost.

Been to the emergency room lately? I've heard plenty of stories about people getting bills for $100,000 or more, for an 2-3 hour stay

you know this moustache guy is a complete lefty cuck?

Americans get paid more on average so you're expected to contribute towards your healthcare from that. I don't like your healthcare system though because it seems you just get very poor value for money. However, if you spend the money you get cutting edge treatment.

Our NHS is totally fucked in its own way but I definitely prefer it over the American system since I'm not a richfag.

And I guess you'd prefer to pay millions of dollars at once when you actually do get sick?

The us has a population of roughly 300 million. This statistic represents about 1 out of 500 people. 1/500*100%=.2%, not .002%

From the money I saved from not paying for health care I would have more than enough to pay for treatment in cash. Health care is basically forced gambling.

Well maybe if people stopped eating like complete ass and actually moved their bodies, it wouldn't be as high

All things being equal, something like cancer would annihilate your net worth in two days of treatment.

Understandably, of course, prices in the US have only gotten to where they are today because of government subsidized healthcare.

>because of medical bills
I'm going to need a citation on this statistic, Correct the Record.

Do you have any fucking idea how much we are getting FUCKED over with our tax. You litteraly pay for the weak and the old people who can't afford it for themselves. While the average person cannot acces the fucking system for anything more than an urgency. So I'm litteraly paying over 2000$ just for '' healthcare '' that I wont be able to use before I die because someone else is freeloading.

I dont think the healthcare is free here. Taxes are huge, and perfectly healthy people must pay for fat alcoholics too, and you do get bill every time they actually do something.

And the dentist costs billions, if you ever get the time.

You're right, I forget to do the x100 sometimes.

yeah Obamacare worked so well, so glad i could keep my doctor and my rates didn't go up :^)

Europoors ignoring the inconvenient truth in this post.

>no credible source
>liking anything with Obama and ism in its name

>What are taxes

I love this reasoning (once we fix first guy's inability to do math):
>it's only .2% of the population!
So you think that 1% of the USA going bankrupt, every 5 years, due to medical expenses, means that we have a good system?

How fucking stupid are you people?

Source one you faggot.

wait wait wait hold the fuck up…. i thought obama fixed this.

huh. really makes you think….

Yeah... Americans pay for the fat alcoholics, too. See, if they don't have insurance? They go to emergency rooms. Which are insanely more expensive than preventive care. And then they can't pay what they owe, so the hospital can't cover the costs. So the hospital raises the costs of everything else, to the people who can cover the costs. Which is why a hospital in the USA charges $800 when a doctor gives you an asprin.

The idea that people with insurance, in the USA, don't pay for people without insurance? It's just incredibly false.

How is that possible and the US is still running?

Isn't that pretty sad that European countries still lag behind the US' economy

At least you guys have public transportation

>tfw all those countries COMBINED have roughly the same population as the United States ALONE

I think I found the issue.

You thought incorrectly.

The problem with the USA's healthcare system is that there are an incredible number of people between a doctor and a patient, involved in getting the doctor paid. And every single one of them is paid to do their job. It is why healthcare in the USA costs 1/5 of our salaries, and it is fucking ridiculous.

So what you're saying is...

We need to kill all the lawyers?

Don't forget illegals that go to ERs and don't pay

Many have closed because they lost so much money.

But yeah, you can get huge discounts if you pay up front in cash or get a payment plan. At least with those the hospitals will see money right away, instead of waiting months

The largest expense of your healthcare provider is their department whose sole job is to refuse you, their customer, service when you get sick. That's their biggest department.

You pay for a service, and when you avail yourself of it? They spend more money going to court trying to defend not providing the service than they spend paying it. That is just incredibly fucked up.

But killing the lawyers won't help, because our legal system rewards these companies for doing it. It is set up that way, because the people who write the laws were elected by money from people who own health insurance companies. And until you get those companies out of the market? You will not win. No one will. Know what OP's stats don't point out? Thanks to Bush, you CAN'T declare bankruptcy over medical expenses, unless your debt is greater than 5 million dollars. Less than that? A judge will simply take everything you own, for the rest of your life. That's it--the end. Your life is done until you earn 5 million dollars and the interest on it.. The judge will not allow you to earn more than the bare-minimum necessary for cheap living, unltil your 100k/year job earns 5 million. So say goodbye to the next 70 years of your income, while you live at the poverty level because you got sick and had insurance, one time.

>$500 a month for insurance

that's peanuts, at least your system works. don't listen to the memes, in most areas of the UK the NHS is fucking shit, you're better off going private for most issues, for serious ones you'd better hope your local hospital is well staffed

>Don't forget illegals that go to ERs and don't pay

And nigger gun shot victims

That's just about the cheapest insurance on the market. In fact, it's cheaper than the cheapest is, in most states. Americans spend 1/5th of their salary on health insurance. We just never notice because of how it's bundled, so that we never see it as a deduction from our paychecks.

>Thanks to Bush, you CAN'T declare bankruptcy over medical expenses, unless your debt is greater than 5 million dollars. Less than that? A judge will simply take everything you own, for the rest of your life. That's it--the end. Your life is done until you earn 5 million dollars and the interest on it..

The fuck are you talking about? Neither Chapter 7 nor a Chapter 13 works that way, and there is no special class for medical bankruptcies, and the longest any repayment plan goes for those declaring bankruptcy with a sufficient income is 5 years under a 13.

Cite your sources, kike. I just had a discharge in December. You literally just pulled that entire fantasy out of your Jewish ass.

I don't go to the doctors.

If I get sick, I just go wander in the woods, if I get better I come out of the woods, if I don't... the wolves eat good that night.

I know this is bait, but...

I think sane people would rather deal with medical bills than getting taxed for 50%+ of their fucking income.

suck when you dont have long to live

hell ya. thats metal as fuck

Yeah, he forced us all to pay into a broken system without bothering to try to reform it. He is a corporate shill like the rest of them.

You could just suck more dicks, I'm sure that would help your income, unless of course you don't charge for that...

its less than half of a percent of the population you tard. with more than 300 mil people in the country 640k is a joke

How many fucking states have medical or recreational marijuana legalized? You fucking stupid Eurocuck bitch. "I'm going to pay 100x more than is necessary to get weed because I wish I was a cool European guy."

I hope you get raped by a pack of Mexicans.

>japan
>0
japan has private healthcare too and it's expensive as fuck

His body will nourish the wolves.
I believe the cycle of learning is complete.

I never heard about that when it happened. How in the fuck did I not hear about that?

wayne carter from hackensack new jersey

Then having it diverted because the last special snowflake racket turned out to be a racket and they burned the town down to get more.
If it was DIRECT then i would.

> Medical
> Police
> Home defense
> Hazard services
> I'll even throw in Transport

all ring fenced.
Thats it, nothing else. No money to slush off to anyone.

healthcare is not free market enough. It's a government controlled cartel directed by doctor trade groups. Their goal is to keep healthcare scare and expensive to enrich themselves.

thank the kikes.

thank the illegals using hospitals as their personal doctor which almost bankrupted them.

you forgot the other chart
"people who have died due to lack of medical care due to rationing of medical care by gov't"

That chart doesn't exist dude....I thought Canada was cool...but why are you so anti candian healthcare....weirdo....prob the same kid I would pick on in high school....lol....

>Free healthcare

No such thing nigga

You Euroshits have no idea why you pay so little and we pay so much. The US subsidizes your lack of research because we pay higher prices for medication. Europe sets artificially low pricecaps on corps and the corps fleece us to make up the difference. Europe should pay Meriga a massive tax as punishment for their lack of gratitude and to pay back Americans the money from which EuroKikes are extracting from us.

I can get behind this

It does suck, my rates tripled after Obamacare passed :^(

>vox.com/2016/5/13/11606760/emergency-facility-fees-american-health-care


Yeah thanks, I think I'll pass on that one

Maybe because the USA is the only country in that list who has to spend billions and billions in prisons, security surveillance everywhere, cops everywhere etc. because of all the niggers behaving like shit and ends up running out of money.

Perhaps if all the niggers, fatfucks, Bernie supporters were eliminated they would be able to pay everyone healthcare.

Obamafagcare was no more than a money grab by the insurance companies, you tard.

"We have to pass it so you can see what's in it!" - Pelositard

>american health"care"

>tfw type one diabetic and perpetually broke trying to afford medical supplies
>got master's degree but still can't make more than $15 an hour, because I have no work experience

The American dream has been nothing but me trying my hardest to stay out of debt. I drive a $1000 1995 Toyota Corolla and only eat 4 out of 7 days in a week.

I'd burn my degrees for a factory job making $20/hour if I received truly affordable health care. I get charged hundreds of dollars for plastic every month.

Gotta keep the debt ball rolling.

All socialist governments are bankrupt.

I mean, I understand the whole "public healthcare is inefficient and terrible" thing, and it is

but having public healthcare doesn't stop private hospitals from existing

we have both here and public is wildly considered to be horseshit while private is considered to be amazing.

T1d here, I'm a slave to the system someone please end this madness

Look into natural cures. It takes a lot of time and commitment, but once you understand gut flora... insulin treatment is designed to keep you diabetic.

3 day fasts to reset the immune system, then blast yourself with nutrients, herbs and supplements.

Got down from 1.1 units of novolog per hour, to 0.25 after the first fast. By the second fast, I was off of insulin accept for meals. Been off of my pump for three days.

Alcohol has helped me to slowly get off of insulin and produce my own, as it lowers blood sugar. I add half a shot of rum to my water, coffee and tea. Never drink it faster than my body can clear it.

I'm early in fixing this, but in a few weeks I'm already a hundred times healthier. Having this demon off my back is the next step in becoming a freethinking human being.

14 years as a T1D leaves some damage, but it is possible to undo if you have the knowledge and willpower.

You're only as slave so long as you accept that reality.

Better to die from shitty care like Socialist faggots than pay.

Yeah, and we also foot the bill for most of the world's medical research.

we're $18 trillion in debt nigga

we'll be bankrupt once people stop buying our debt

but there's nothing wrong with bankruptcy for the individual who declares it lmao.

T2 diabetics have a name for a three day fast; it's called a coma.

Witnessed. The only time any diabetic will go three days without eating is if they're unconscious... which is why these diseases are exploding in prevalence, no one in the western world can go a day without eating crap.