So the media reports that this guy had things set up for an escape...

So the media reports that this guy had things set up for an escape. Surely this guy just had a big plan to shoot 600 people and get out like nothing happened right? He wasn't set up or framed and somebody else ACTUALLY did escape.. r-right?

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They didn't say it was a good plan. Also he clearly didn't count on being found in the first 10 min. That security guard fucked up his plan.

If you have evidence, I'd love to see it. Otherwise you're just talking out your ass.

it would make sense other than the collecting guns for years thing

What I don't get is, he smashed two windows out of his room. And it was loaded with weapons. In fucking Vegas, the most monitored city in the US, possibly the world. So even if you do get away, how far are you REALLY gonna a get? You're public enemy number 1 and you will be fucking found. What's the point of a getaway plan at that point?

so first they said they breached the door with explosives, then they said jesus dodged 199 bullets shot through the door so he could let them in with his keycard but theres only a dozen holes in the door in the picture with part of the door missing. fucked up thing either way. really captcha?!

>hotel casino
>cameras and security everywhere
>people in rooms upstairs, downstairs, next to his room
>loud as fuck gun
>didn't expect to be found within 10 minutes

definitely some professionals worked on this, no fucking way it was just 1 guy. And those professionals left the room

You really can't be this stupid.

Now reported that guard contacted shooter prior to shooter opening fire on crowd.

LVPD initially reported that shooter checked in on 28th, now confirmed that he checked in on 25th.

if this was europe they would have raided some shit by now. we would have high uality pics from elevators in the hotel gambling footage etc. this is what happened. the media feeds it to us and we have to eat it. no answers.

Law enforcement can't be this incompetent. Too many discrepancies in info being released and later found to be wrong.

And this is why everyone on Sup Forums is a retard.

What's with that out of place charger found in the Hotel Suite that did not match any devices?

Haven't you ever planned a badass weekend for yourself with like 20 things to do and see only to stay inside all day Saturday and do only like 3 of the things you planned Sunday? Well that was his weekend

This was a false flag operation involving no less than 10 people.

Just one framed guy goes down.

You really think one guy had the accuracy of an entire Navy Seals Team?

Do you have any idea how insanely difficult it is to really hit someone from that far away? Try playing Insurgency. It is fucking impossible to do in a realistic game much less real life.

No the security guard responded to smoke alarms which were being set off by the gunsmoke. He took a round to the leg and told the police what floor he was on

Oh please enlighten us then, senpai

They found a notepad in the room he was doing the trajectory math lol

Ya but you also have to implicate all the crime scene investigators down on the ground running ballistic tests on every bullet

This was legit funny.

This

You'd need to do that each shot. And all of that within 10 minutes?

You are a fucking autist if you think a team of people wasn't behind this. It just makes no sense for one guy. I guess this guy was the warm body to be found after his team left him there.

No shit. It's paid.

New info states that Campos heard a drill being used in Paddock' s room. He was shot when he intervened.

>You really think one guy had the accuracy of an entire Navy Seals Team?

he wasn't trying to hit just one particular person. he was firing into a sea of people.

WHATS WITH THE MEXICAN LOOKING PEOPLE WHO GOT KICKED OUT OF THE CONCERT FOR TELLING PEOPLE THEY WERR ALL GOING TO DIE 45 MINUTES BEFORE THE SHOOTING STARTED

The only people that have anything to gain from events like this are gun manufactures though.. ever notice how every time there's a mass shooting gun stocks go way way up? Keep people scared and they will keep buying your guns.. gotta follow the money breh

Making a beaten ground isn't hard

Well, you just said "senpai".
That's a give away.

He didn't need ballistic tables to spray a huge crowd of people. From his position, shooting into a crowd would've been easy. Some speculate he needed the holdovers for the fuel tanks that sat 1k yards away...which makes more sense.

yoo fuck dat nigga !

>BUMP DEEZ FIRE TRACKS DOE !

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Please post link? And I swear to god if you post infowars....

Something not right with new info coming to light.

You don't need to redo your calculations every shot. Jesus, are you fucking retarded?

You get a basic bullet drop and wind calculation and you use that as your base. Adjust on the fly as rounds land. And let's be honest here, you aren't going for pinpoint precision. Anything in that ballpark is perfectly fine..

it's vegas, druggie mexicans do that before every concert

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Still pretty hard to get that many kills.

And you have to consider the fact that the story keeps changing. And literally ONE DAY after it happened, there were news all over the internet calling for a gun ban.

It's another false flag stupid. Think about it. Only a team of people could set this up.

If you think this was all coordinated by one guy you are literally autistic.

Luckily we have a bunch of fat basement dweller Columbos on the case and we'll figure out the truth when trained professionals are stumped.

The "trained pros" keep changing the narrative.

What were facts yesterday are bs today

Fucking A, thank you, user. 200+ rounds would have totally shredded the door. It looked like it had maybe 25 holes in it.

Honestly, I think this was a staged death, I believe that there's a certain group of people that would gain from gun control, and that certain group of people have their hands in Hilary Clintons back pocket.

If you are saying that 1 man could not fire a couple thousand rounds down onto a concert a couple hundred yards away and score, frankly, a pathetic amount of kills, you are literally autistic.

That said, I am not arguing that it the official narrative is wrong or right. What I am saying is that one man very well could have done the shooting here. It isn't rocket science, and it isn't marksmanship.

Ah my mistake I had the times wrong. He was responding to a door alarm but I thought it happened during the shooting not before

I'm beginning to think that the concert wasn't his first target. He was there for something else.

>shoot into crowd
>need to be a seal to hit them
LOL. I think someone else pulled the trigger and left a dead man in the room. But you are just stupid.

I heard them use an explosive breach over the police scanner that night.

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Maybe, but how would he know about the concert and be so readily in a position to fire on it?

The FBI seized everything. They have the rights to all security footage and evidence. Every fucking ashtray in that whole hotel is now property of the FBI. That's how they operate. They will only release the information they want you to know

>It isn't rocket science, and it isn't marksmanship

yet he had to calculate the angle and degree for each gun and couldn't be off by 1 degree to hit his target. ok let's see you do it sharp shooter.

Listen, if you shoot an automatic weapon, you- you're beat up, okay? I don't own one - well actually I have 5 TAR-21s (the hotel COMPED them), it's not fun - and, and Stephen was just, he was just the kind of guy, who told you to get a sandwich.

Why does no one know about the notepad?

..That's a very weird way to set up a ton of guns to fire out of a window on the other side of the room.

this.

they'll declassify it in 10 years. so I guess that's something to look forward to

You weren't wrong, the info we were given was incorrect.

Campos was no hero. He had 6 minutes to alert police that he was shot before Paddock started killing people. How long does it take to ride an elevator? Why the delay in response?

I've been to vegas, they've got the tightest security on the west coast. Hard to believe there wouldn't be a swarm of cops responding to a shot security officer within a minute or two.

Apparently it was yardage calculations

false flag

wow you're a fucking idiot. what's so hard to understand about firing into a crowd of thousands of people

All the weird shit surrounding the story and how it keeps changing.

You realize he wasn't aiming at individuals, right? Your target is massive. If you use the same cartridge in all of, or most of your rifles, 1 calculation is fine. You literally just have to worry about your bullet drop and potential wind issues. That will get you into the ballpark. You are firing with a bump stock, so accuracy isn't your biggest concern anyway. You literally are hitting the side of a barn here.

Do you even understand physics? DIdn't you swing your dick around while you were peeing to learn how trajectories work?

Yes, everyone is SO amazed at what he was able to accomplish(?) with ALL those fucking guns and yet all he could manage to do was dump maybe 3 or 4 mags before topping himself, and he couldn't manage to disable the smoke alarms.

Fucking superman!

They have right security in the casinos.. the hotels themselves are practically like the wild west.. 6 min may seem like a long time now but after you've been shot in the leg and you're struggling to save yourself not knowing if the guy is coming after you it's different.. but idk I wasn't there so I can't say with certainty what went down

Tight*

the fact that the "Echo" you autists keep talking about is another caliber and not the same number of rounds

Echo echo echo

>Echo echo Fuck you

One of these things is not like the other

>edgy teen thinks he can shoot the "barn" and achieve a higher a score than the shooter.

confirmed for complete retard

It's an area target. He's not making individual headshots. 20k people packed into an enclosed space. Fish in a barrel.

And I do shoot long range regularly as a hobby. 400-500 yards isn't a long distance shot. Wind is the biggest impediment to accuracy for the .223. The 308 has a better bc and would be even less susceptible to wind.

>Hard to believe there wouldn't be a swarm of cops responding to a shot security officer within a minute or two.
There's this thing called traffic . . .

Have you ever been to vegas? There's a cop every 20 feet. ESPECIALLY around casinos.

>another caliber

It's possible, but then how would one hide the repeated flash, at night, from the same location?

>you aim at the crowd
>you hold the trigger down

Whatever you say, jack. From your replies I would wager a week's pay that you haven't even touched a firearm.

Protip in case you decide to try to beat paddock's score. Learn what a burst is. Don't follow the based paddock's lead. Especially if you are so concerned about 'navy seal accuracy'

And let's be honest, with that large a target, fuck even worrying about wind. Hell the guy was just dropping mags. He didn't give a damn about accuracy.

Are you fucking shitting me? It's only 400 yards. I have hit pie plate, free standing, with iron sights at 400 yards. With his rate of fire, and the concentration of people, all he had to do is keep pointing in the general vicinity to get that many kills.

A few seconds to key his radio. Under duress, let's give him a full minute. 4 minutes for officers to get to the floor.

Paddock fired out the window for 9 more minutes. Still doesn't make sense.

Nah, dude. Brad was there.

That dirty bastard...

I agree man. Just putting it out there. You dot have to be a sniper to do what he did.

jesus christ, you're fucking retarded as fuck

why didn't you save her Sup Forums?

There are cops everywhere on the strip, in front of hotels, around the casinos.

>Still doesn't make sense.

There's a theory that the FBI had already known about Paddock, which wouldn't surprise me based on the number of firearms he owned. Who buys that many guns and isn't being watched?

...

And they still can't tell if he acted alone

Ok this isn't call of duty, wipe off those cheeto fingers fool.

Nah I do shoot but implementing the whole scenario is much harder than you seem to think. Considering he just managed to pull off something no other mass shooter has so far he certainly has done quite a feat.

I think it's funny how you morons think you can do the same or better yet probably only even own one gun and play vidya games all day.

did he shoot the windows out?

>snipers nest

new reports say he shot the security guard before he broke the windows and dumped on the crowd. Plus he stopped shooting after 10 minutes but it was 60 minutes before the swat breach. probably offed way before when himself after he saw what he'd done.

There's a hammer on the floor in the room pictures. He may have fired a round to get 'em started.

>posts picture himself
>thinks he knows more about guns than every marksman in the country
>shit posts on Sup Forums

k

Flashhiders do a decent job. Even a standard A2 flashhider reduces flash by 70-80%

>couple of trips to bring in guns and ammo in bags/suitcases
>shoot out/hammer out windows
>"sets up a concealed sniper nest"
aka sits in the hotel room
If you're going to try to make people think, be smart.

Could be, the shots he used to breach the windows was enough to set the smoke alarms off thereby alerting security.

Literally everyone in the USA

sure yuri.

You aren't crazy so you wouldn't understand. Crazy people get an idea and they build on it and then that is the only thing they can focus on. To him it must have been a rational plan. He was so focused on his idea that he didn't see the flaws in it.

Are you retarded... So many people in the US have like 10 guns per household

You're a child. Go play on your console and let the grownups talk.

Run along now little user.

That's a lot, and I suppose firing through a blind would reduce visible flash even more. I would think however, that two different directions of the rounds would have been noticeable to at least a few people there. And, I assume they recovered as much of the rounds as they could.

I'm not talking about the whole scenario. I am talking about the simple act of pulling the trigger here. You seem to think it was some impossible feat. I disagree.

He clearly had some practice, since he appeared to be relativity proficient with a bump stock, which isn't as easy to pull of as you might think. He didn't need to be a marksman to do what he did. All he head to do was be able to land rounds in a football field. That is it. Anywhere in that target is almost a guaranteed hit.

As far as I know, nobody has attempted this kind of set up as far as mass shootings go. Most of them are in confined areas with limited targets. This was an extremely target rich environment, with a huge tactical advantage. Given that, what he did wasn't difficult. As far as getting all the weapons up there, and so on and so forth, I am not in any kind of argument.

So he panicked the room filled with smoke he switched rooms to avoid it dumped a couple mags shot himself twice in the chest exasperated blood behind his head and still has a rifle across his leg.... oh and exsplosIves for later. All after gambling for 8 hours boozing it up, Vegas!!

Buying firearms like he did wouldn't trigger FBI attention, ATF maybe.

He was known to local law enforcement. That was stated by LVPD in the beginning.

If he was known by the feds, it was due to something much more serious.