Can we all just admit that anyone who smokes in this day and age is a degenerate?

Can we all just admit that anyone who smokes in this day and age is a degenerate?

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Yes

Hard not to while in restaurant industry. Seems like everyone does. I vape instead, how do you all feel about that?

premium handmade cigars are awesome... but not inhaled

Not op, just curious - what feels better; vapes or cigarettes?

I disagree.

I'm a smoker, 4 cigs a day, no more, no less. I do it because I like it and because I'm easily stressed. I do sport and I plan to stop in a few years. I'm pretty sure I'm not a degenerate.

I guess smoking is like everything else. Too much of anything is bad, but if you can control yourself you won't be a degenerate.

>the jew nose in the mirror
Hot cock though

Smoker here, i agree.

Cigs feel better in the moment, vape feels better a half hour later. Of course, while with a vape I'll use every hour, but with cigs I'll only smoke two or three times a day. Vape is a quarter the cost, at these rates. I'm on the fence

If you're over a certain age and have been smoking for a while I can understand because it was far more normal to smoke in the past compared to now.
When I say "degenerate" I'm more specifically talking about young people who choose to take up smoking nowadays

I think we can all agree that anybody who doesn’t smoke is poor.

"hey man got a cig i could bum?"
"yo you got an extra cig?"

Master race checking in.

>Anyone who doesn't smoke is poor
Yeah I really hate not spending 100s of dollars a year to ruin my lungs

Holy fuck if that's you than you are the most degenerate cunt lord I've ever seen

Well I'm pretty young. I started smoking when I was 17, i'm now 21. If I choose to start is because I like the taste and it's very relaxing. During my whole teenage years I was a ball of stress, everything was getting on my nerves. It was a real nightmare.
When I started to smoke it really helped me out (this and mediation, really worked out well for me). Still not thinking I'm a degenerate tho. I'm very careful about my health, went to the doctor recently to check on my lungs and the doctor said it was fine.

Vaping is just smoking for hipsters and people who wear too many bracelets

Kek

Pipes are actually pretty fuckin sick

>nobody should do the thing I don't like
>everywhere should be my safe space
kys

Can't stand cigs but my old pipe is supreme.

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>no chin
>baby face
>balding
yeah you definitely play mobas

degenerate detected

>smoke every hour
>no smell
>quarter of the cost while smoking five times as much
What's your basis?

faggot crybaby detected

I prefer to call that one "the love triangle"

>keeping a file of baby faces so that you can properly call people a baby on Sup Forums
I'm a degenerate. I can smell you a mile away

>properly call people a baby
>properly
So, you admit it? What's the issue then? You just fussy?

Says the one having a sook coz someone thinks smoking is bad

Not sure what you think the word properly means, but I'm not even the guy you replied to in the first place

That vaping is gay

My grandfather smoked those long ass Benson & Hedges until he was 82. Sure he for cancer but who wants to be a decrepit fuck needing your was wiped anyway. Health nuts get cancer and drop dead from heart attacks the same to the way I figure when it's your time it's your time.

I have no problem with smoking. Just shorten your life span as far away from me as you can

>sook
ausfag detected

I'm a smoker too but we have to be realistic. Our lungs might be ok now but we're definitely fucking them up.

Nice thesis

>you're gay

I've heard somewhere that if you smoke for 30 years you have a garanteed cancer. I don't plan to be smoking for 30 years, not even 10. I'll stop when I feel like it's getting out of hand. But for now i'll enjoy it.

i want a pipe with no tobacco innit just to be cool ;_;

dud u can get small cell lungcancer at any time from smoking and it kills you within months.

Yes because I smoked for 5 years and quit with vaping. Been vaping for about 2.5 years now. Also got my dad off cigs where he smoked for 25+ years with vaping

If you still smoke cigs, yes, you are a degenerate autist whos too retarded to figure out how vapes work


Also vapes are 95% safer than cigs so don't give me any shit. I know it looks like im suckin off a robot

But I don't vape though

Its easy as shit to learn how to vape

Plus;

1) dont smell like shit
2) can vape inside
3) can decide nicotine level
4) don't get cancer
5) health immediately improves


I started vaping a few years back after smoking menthols for 5 years and I can now run a marathon. Shits the tits. Smoking cigs now is considered being a loser over vaping fam

Yea I want my lungs coated in vegetable glycol and I want to look like a fag while I do it

Nah you should smoke proper cigarettes and get cancer like a real man

What are you even talking about? The FDA did a study on them last year and said vapes were basically harmless


Meanwhile cigs have a million carcenogens

Dubs of truth.

Anyone that thinks its cool to walk around smelling like an ashtray is a massive cuck for big tobbaco. Vaping has no smell and keeps you clean.

Looks like I've been rumbled

No thanks I fucked up my body for 5 years smoking cigs. Ill pass.

Cigs are good for u retard

oh i had so many things going on so much stress oh my god im so busy

Vaping is 1000x more annoying than smoking

Mostly because the people who do it are obnoxious as fuck

ARE YOU TRYING TO TROLL ME BUD? I SURVIVED THE MEME WAR

Y'all are pussies, real niggas smoke crack

People like you

Where did you hear that? Retards monthly?

Some people smoke their entire lives and never get cancer, some people never touch a cigarette and do get cancer

How fucking stupid are you to believe something like that?

The only thing that takes away the need for a cig is dip. Which gives you cancer faster. I just haven't been buying packs and if I want one I'll just bum one. I'm putting less of the drug in my body so the craving will eventually just go away completely. And it's working I think because I don't crave them like I normally would like after a meal or when I wake up anymore

Anyone who thinks its cool to vape is massive faglord

>Implying degeneracy is a bad thing.

Without Degenerates, our culture stagnates.

Its not cool to vape but its healthier than cigarettes and that's cool enough. If you werent a DYEL faggot virgin you'd know how cool it is for gym and gainz to vape and not smoke cancer sticks.

Although I agree that it is a stupid statistic, you can't argue against the fact that smoking and cancer are undeniably linked

Que?
Please explain further

I mean, yes. Technically, every single person has cancer. It's just a matter of at what point does your body start losing the battle and letting the cancer take over.

Same here. It helps me slow down and enjoy my long boring nights. Moderation in all things.

Never known a smoker or vaper who wasn't a whore or trash.

I'd rather be a degenerate if I don't have to look like the biggest faggot out there vaping

Are you even trying? Come on, fucker. Give a point

Degeneracy is pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable in society.

if nobody pushes the boundaries, the boundaries stay where they are.


if the boundaries stay, then nothing changes.


QED; Without degeneracy, culture stagnates.

I dont smoke, never did

Faggots who vape are still scum

Did you trade your chin for that pipe?

Not sure this is true, but definitely an interesting thought. I've always assumed degeneracy to be the negative side of cultural deviance, while innovation and those who are quiet and do strange things are the positive side of the deviance. Care to elaborate?

Why?

Why would i give a single solitary fuck about what some sperglord vapefag says?

The internet is not debate club asshole, im not here to argue, im here to tell you how big a piece of shit you are

Good idea. I'm just saying if you like cigs a ton just switch to vaping. You can also slowly go down in nicotine levels with vaping. Cigs generally have 10 times more nicotine than your average vape which tobacco companies use to keep you hooked. How do you test this in real time? Smoke an entire cig as fast as you can and tell me you don't get a headache from too much nicotine. Now try the same thing with a low concentration of nicotine in a vape and it will take forever. Or even at high concentrations it takes a while

Couldn't you argue that it's possible to push the boundaries of what's acceptable in society without being a degenerate though?
By your logic, it's better for society to decline in quality than to stay at a reasonable level of goodness

I vape and don't vape in public. Do you smoke cigs in public? If so, I hate to break it to you but you look just as gay smoking that cancer stick as you do vaping a robot dick

The fuck is dyel?

Fucking millenials and your acronyms

>implying everyone who smokes actually wants to quit

>See smokers fidgeting at work
>visibly shaking from nicotine withdrawls
>lunch time starts
>they legit all run outside to the benches to suck off their work amount of rigs
>asks them why they smoke?
>"it takes the edge off of work you know?"

Why are rig smokers literally retarded? They smoke to calm themselves from their own addiction lol... Literally a waste of 2400 dollars a year (if you smoke a pack a day) not to mention you look like shit and smell like shit within 10-20 years of doing that crap.

I would like to know more about this, got a link?

Lmao too true

"goodness" is subjective

What is degenerate to some is high class to others, such as the topic at hand

People who vape think its so awesome and everyone should do it and be cool like them

Everyone else thinks theyre fad following trendy faggots who are as oboxious about at as vegans and trumptards

>I'm not here to give an argument, I'm here to say "you're a fag" and be angry about it
You haven't done much with your life, yeah?

How's your first day on Sup Forums, 12 year old virgin? :^)

It's all about different perspectives. What you consider innovation may be degeneracy in my eyes. what I consider innovation might be degeneracy in yours.

A few examples: Prior to the invention of the Bikini, it was culturally unacceptable to be seen showing that much flesh at the beach. People of the time considered it degenerate to wear a bikini. However, over the course of a few decades, the culture shifted, and because the degenerates kept wearing them and pushing that boundary, they are now acceptable.

Same thing with marijuana. Used to be that only the gangsters and lowlives smoked it. Now it's pop culture.


Our culture changed because the degenerates of their time introduced new ideas that were offensive to some, but others saw as, in your words, innovative.

It feels heavenly to smoke a fag, when you're drunk. I'll probably die a little bit earlier, but I'm living a good life.

Decline is based on your perspective. You consider it a bad thing. If it causes a shift in culture, it's because other's, who outnumber you, decide that it is good.

>Smoke to calm themselves from their own addiction
Holy fuck this is exactly my thoughts whenever I see/hear a smoker say that smoking calms them down or some shit

Did i blow smoke in ur face on campus? My bad dude

I blow smoke into the face of anyone who bitches about my smoking.

Health fag, go smoke a cock you faggot.

I don't think they give a shit, they'll probably get the last laugh when you die of lung cancer

Makes sense, I appreciate the response. I do, however think that those things mentioned are a form of degeneracy accepted by modern culture. Not that I don't enjoy them, I smoke every day and love a good girl in a bikini. But, they're the less productive version of innovation in my eyes. Better to have shifted the culture in a different direction, same way porn became accepted. Created a whole new wave of degeneracy, wish I could say it didn't include me

Vapong is faggot tier. You might as well be sucking your fathers skinny cock

They do since they keep coming back in numbers and complaining louder.

Maybe next time I'll blow smoke in their kids faces too.

>implying im angry

Not even, im laying im bed trolling craigslist cuz i called in to work today, f5ing this thread every do often cuz fuck you

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>I'm gonna blow my cancer breath in the face of a child because I'm upset that my smokey stench annoys other people

Look out guys we got a badass over here

9 out of 10 lung cancers are from cigarette smokers

Idk guys, this crab seems like a petty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything