Where did the "Hitler didn't actually hate Slavs" meme come from?

Where did the "Hitler didn't actually hate Slavs" meme come from?
Are people just retarded?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany

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Lots of Russians fought for the Germans.

Retards. Near the start or the end of the war?

Guillaume Durocher wrote up a great review of Mark Mazower's "Hitler's Empire" where he talks about how there wasn't really a consistent policy re: the position of Slavs, and that most of the German racial theorists at that time worked to disprivilege the idea of Slavs being a biological group rather than just a linguistic one. One instance of this influence would be Himmler attempting to "Germanize" Polish orphans that the SS would have designated Nordic-Aryan.

Both. Russians were actively volunteering right up through March-April of 1945. Russian-language infographic but you can probably get the gist of it.

also hitler didnt want to exterminate the jews, he just wanted to put them in ca.. i mean luxurious hotels in the countryside with pools, brothels and arcade rooms

Americans who think that Hitler's Germany cared about 'white people' and not just ethnic Germans.

It's millenial nu-males who incidentally became Nazis from too much internet exposure, but are too filled with estrogen to embrace the true violent, hate-filled nature of their ideology.

Near the end of the war he'd probably let anyone fight for him.

>Links jewpedia

Hitler's Germany definitely prioritized the interests of ethnic Germans but I think there is a degree to which Hitler himself also definitely cared about "white people."

Ethnic Germans *was* the limited degree of his care for white people

measuring the skulls and staff is for stupid animals who nazi were

It's literally post war Anglo/Ally propaganda by Shekelstein and friends

Right. There were even attempts to form Polish Waffen-SS units and negotiate with the Home Army in 1943 and '44.

you get your facts from wikipedia and memes and have the fuckin audacity to call anyone else retarded?

Andrei Vlassov, RONA and the like were straight up collaborators. He was a fucking coward who when captured, immediately sided with Germans because he didn't want to get shot.

Evert German collaborator was a traitor to his native country and deserved only one fate. Bullet to the head.

Ustashas, Vichy French, Quislings, Nedicevci...everyone

I don't think there's any way you could claim that the Germans' occupation of the Low Countries and Scandinavia was extremely liberal and conciliatory to the local populations, and that there were various attempts to win them over and engage them politically, and that this was ideologically motivated.

Fuck I meant to say wasn't.

>Where did the "Hitler didn't actually hate Slavs" meme come from?


stormfags being absolutely desperate to find people to join their LARP club, so they appeal to dumb slavs who dont know history. They are most likely so clueless about history that they probably dont even realize it themselves

this as well

Probably came from Americans trying to justify racial politics in the USA, as obviously there's a substantial Slavic-descended segment of the US population.

It would also be hard to justify that Slavs are Untermensch with their defeat of Germany, their Cold War achievements (first man in space etc) and the fact that now Slav nations are probably the most uncucked.

It definitely did not come from Germans, whom regularly exhibit hatred for Poles and Russians on Sup Forums every day.

>hurr Hitler hated all Slavs
>sides with Banderas and the Ukrainians

No he hated the people that hated the Slavs

Wikipedia is only reliable when its not about things that get people all emotional, people will post lies on nazi wikis

>Get country destroyed by enemy
>join enemy

Holy shit, what the fuck.

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You are the retard here, goy.
Protip: kikepedia is shit when it comes to politics and history

>people will post lies on nazi wikis

yes, please post neo-nazi blogs and youtube revisonist history/conspiracy theory videos for a completely unbiased historical account.

Hitler did hate Slavs. The fact that there were some Slavs who fought under the National Socialist banner does not in any way negate that fact.

Operation Barbarossa was unique in that it was not a campaign to conquer the Soviet Union as was waged against France and to a lesser extent Poland. The eastern campaign was a war of utter annihilation.

The goal was to erase Russia, not conquer it.

Just put the damn Nazism to rest already, it's dead you should find something better to do.

Oh yeah, rek of Poland is just a myth xD

There are always collaborators in every war.
It's usually people who place their personal beliefs and interests over the national interest, alternatively fear or greed could motivate them to join.

In WW2 it's usually anti-communist forces that side with the Germans.

>Russia

more like Balkan states

The truth is bigger than your shilling, Aaron

Hitler's hatred of slavs was mostly for political reasons. He needed a way to motivate people to fight against the soviets. The fact the he allied with countries such as Croatia and even made them "honorary aryan", whatever that means, proves that he only used "subhuman slavs" as a political tool

>Hitler sides with Croats and Ukranians
>hurr it was a ruse all along :^)


The war was over communism and geopolitics not Slavs.

Hitler killed communists and anyone fighting the war effort out of expediency.

youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20

We would have executed every Jap prisoner if it meant winning the war.

>wikipedia
top source

>The goal was to erase Russia, not conquer it.

Also, the barbarossa decree made it open season on the eastern front. Soldiers who were told for years how subhuman russians were and how they were just the goons of the jews (despite the fact that Stalin was a former christian and had his own little purge on jews in power in the USSR) they were then told that they wouldnt face any punishment for killing, or stealing from, or raping russian civilians.

They viewed russians as basically the orcs in Lord of the Rings. I dont understand how neo-nazism is a thing in Russia. Makes about as much sense as Israeli neo-nazis

Even if it's "the truth" you need to accept the fact that it's a lost cause like every other normal human being.

Fuck off potato nigger

>arcade rooms in the 40s.

Then why can't you kill it?

Hitler knew he had to take Central Asia to have a foothold on the continent and stop communism

It was basic geopolitics at the time (and still is)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History

tomdispatch.com/post/176007/tomgram:_alfred_mccoy,_washington's_great_game_and_why_it's_failing_/

Idiots still fall for le racist maymay because that's what they were told in grade school.

>>Hitler sides with Croats and Ukranians

because it was convenient for him dumbass, not because "omg those poor people are oppressed by the soviets :("

I thought what we were talking about is whether or not Hitler hated the Slavs in a really all-pervasive manner that guided his every move or calculation politically, and whether or not the Slavs were systematically and consistently persecuted in a way that coincided with that being the case. Would it be biased and historically inaccurate to disagree with that view?

to expand on this: Hitler originally tried to take Poland under his sphere of influence by negotiating with Piłsudski. After Piłsudski's death however relationships went to shit.
It kind of makes sense for Hitler not to hate Poles, at least in the beginning, since he was Austrian and not Prussian.

yea pretty much. Identity politics only served geopolitical interests. In a way it's still like that today

Shhhh don't tell the neo-Nazis that. The Daily Stormer just announced that they found evidence of Jewish camp internees playing Playstation on plasma screen TV's.

Posting for relevance.

>The war was over communism and geopolitics not Slavs.

Never said it wasn't, but Hitler and the Nazi leadership did have a hatred of Slavs - the question was why do people say they didn't, and I posited a theory as to why that is.

>The youtube video

It's not really relevant to your points at all. Those German veterans state that
1. War crimes were not committed by the Wehrmacht
and
2. That suppression of civilian populations that are engaged in partisan activity is legitimate (the example given in the video is the woman's village in the Netherlands).

500,000 Russians 40,000 Ukrainians served in the Wehrmacht, Germany was allied with Hungary, Romania, Croatia.

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You realise they had foreign volunteers in the early and mid war too, right?
People from as far as Turkestan and India fought for the Nazis

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Legion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_legion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_French_Volunteers_Against_Bolshevism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Estonian)

ACHTULLY arcades date back to like the 1920s and where basically carnival games, until the late 70s when video games started replacing all that old boring shit

>HURR HITLER LIVES ON IN MUH HEART!

Nazism is fucking dead and burried and only exist now as a completely bastardized version of its former self. Its championed by nothing but social outcast and niggers who only like it for the cool symbolism and pageantry.

Its like that kid who always picked bowser in mario cart. Nothing but an edgy power fantasy for faggots

And?
Churchill hated Indians yet Britain still used the British Indian Army.

Wow.

>Churchill hated indians
sauce thanks

Colonial troops were around far before Churchill ever was.
Britain had no racial policies like those of Germany.

>Hitler could never make political alliances too racist
>Hitler made political alliances

which is it?

It's not like, assuming the USSR was destroyed Nazis would have any reason to fight Slavs anymore than they had to fight Croatian, Hungarians, Finns, etc


>did have a hatred of Slavs

But only in countries that were geopolitical threats. What are the odds right?

Sort of how like today the West is supposed to hate all Russians because Putin is le Hitler 2.0. It's almost as if it's just propaganda.

>Those German veterans state that

That the war was over communism

>muh Hitler hated X
Really doesn't matters, since Hitler wanted Germanic race to be in Germany and anybody else out. Don't even try to fool you in the sleep that Hitler loved some mixed races of England.

Is fascism is dead why does anti fa exist?

>implying fucking Pilsudski was best friends with Hitler

>implying Pilsudski would just hand over a chunk of Poland over to Germany

>implying he would do this right after fighting off the Russians who wanted the same thing

Hitler tried to bully Poland into being his lackey, and when they told him to fuck off and sided with Britain and France instead, he threw a shit fit and invaded them


Also, its important to remeber that good ole Mussolini fucking hated the balkan states to and had camp Rab to kill off a bunch of serbs

"I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion."

In conversation to Leo Amery,1942 in Leo Amery : Diaries (1988).

they were just trying to escape the commies, doesn't mean nazis actually liked them

I'm not implying any of that. Poland simply had not choice but to take someone's side or get grinded in a war on two fronts. Hitler was influencing Poland and they were slowly becoming politically aligned, out of the common hatred of communism.
>Mussolini fucking hated the balkan states
This is absolutely true. But irrelevant to Hitler

>which is it?

Hitler hated slavs

but sometimes he needed them to accomplish something

so he would form a loose alliance with them before turning on them when they werent needed anymore

how is this hard for you to understand?

Remember how Hitler invaded Poland with the help of Russia? And then later on, went to war with Russia, to the point where Russia was on the top of his shit list?

>before turning on them

Right just like he turned on the Croats and Ukranians. Oh wait.


>Remember how Hitler invaded Poland with the help of Russia?

Yes I'm sure the USSR being communist had nothing to do with that.

Notice how every criticism of Hitler and the Nazis ignores the existence of communism and the USSR.

They just call it "Russia" as if a revolutionary party bent on world domination hadn't murdered the Czars decades before.

how was poland a geopolitical threat to nazi germany?

>slavs
>slavs
>le slavs
Kill yourself. There is no such thing as Slavs. There are Slavic languages, but not an Slavic race you moron of mixed shit genes. There ain't such a thing a white race or black race, that's all Jew propaganda. Now decide if you want to protect "le white race" or be like Hitler to protect Germanic race. Are you so stupid that you can comprehend that you in USA don't even have a race? You are a mixed mess, country without culture, you aren't a race, you are mixed mud, mestizo of white or black or whatever shit. Why are you fucking around trying to understand Hitler? USA is the only country on this planet who doesn't has a culture, which means you got no race, you are the only country and first country without culture minister. Look for yourself:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_minister
See, no culture, no race, just a dedicated capitalistic marketplace on land.

but none of those decisions were based on racial hatred. They were based on geopolitcs and a will to expand your borders. I can assure you that if those countries were inhabited by Germans opposing Hitler, the results would have been the same

>At the top of the scale of pure Aryans were Germans and other Germanic peoples including the Dutch, Scandinavians, and the English

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>jewpedia

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation

> On March 15, 1940 Himmler stated: "All Polish specialists will be exploited in our military-industrial complex. Later, all Poles will disappear from this world. It is imperative that the great German nation considers the elimination of all Polish people as its chief task." At the end of 1940, Hitler confirmed his pronouncement demanding liquidation of "all leading elements in Poland".

hitler hated slavs such as poles irrespective of communism

Yet on the operation sealion wikipage it says Hitler planned to enslave most english due to inferior genetics rofl
I think he had a hardon for british aristocracy though

>Notice how every criticism of Hitler and the Nazis ignores the existence of communism and the USSR.
>They just call it "Russia" as if a revolutionary party bent on world domination hadn't murdered the Czars decades before.


>its a "stormfag pretend literally everyone on earth doesnt view Stalin as an evil dictator" post

lol. Also nice examples of how Hitler didnt fuck those people over. Its funny how you guys just ignore all the ukranian jews he fucked over. Or how he used the croats to massacre the serbs for him.

>hitler hated slavs
"Poles are the most intelligent of all the people with whom Germany came across during the war in Europe... Poles in my opinion and basing on the observation and reports from the General Government, are the only nation in Europe that combines high intelligence with the incredible cleverness. They are the most talented people in Europe, because while living in extremely difficult political circumstances, acquired the great sense of living, unparalleled anywhere.

Based on recent research made by Reichsrassenamt, the scientists came to the belief that Poles should be assimilated into German society as a racially valuable. Our scholars concluded that a combination of German orderliness with Polish imaginativeness would give excellent results".

Forced by the bankruptcy of its policies, the testimony about virtues of our nation made by the greatest enemy of Polish national identity is worth attention." Memorandum to Himmler 04MAR44

Over 500,000 Poles served in the Wehrmacht. Hitler and the National Socialists hated Bolshevism foremost. That Bolshevism affected Slavic nations only deteriorated viewpoints on Slavs themselves. There was little hatred and by and large Slavs got along with their Axis conquerers.

Germany tried to strong arm Poland into being under their influence and basically being their bitch. Kind of like a bully who "borrows" lunch money from a weaker kid every day.

So when Poland refused this relationship in favor of a better one with Britain and France, Hitler had a shit fit. So thats Polands biggest crime. They didnt do what Germany told them to do

It was in the way

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History

>all leading elements

you mean like what happens every time you conquer a country? The invader is the leader now by default.

>Stalin as an evil dictator

Almost no one does. Go wear a Hitler shirt outside then go wear a Stalin shirt

>muh Ukrainian Jews

kek

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

>used the croats
bullshit
he believed croats were descended from ostrogoth conquerors and not true slavs

Are you retarded? Socialism literally fought against monarchy all over the world and also removed them.
pinterest.com/pin/69735494199549643/
Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. Adolf Hitler described her as "the most dangerous woman in Europe".
Literally every country from Myanmar, Vietnam, Germany, Yugoslavia, China, Russia who was Socialistic was against monarchy, since they removed them to create Socialism.

That's absolutely as it should be. I have some non scrub genes from Scotland, but from my fathers side all my genes are from the Danish kingdom.

"I want to suck a nice Jewish feminine penis"

That was also a quote said by Hitler in 1939.

Jesus Christ, do you actually expect people to believe that?

>Hitler was socialist derp
Not socialist in the marxist sense retard

Besides he had good relations with Mosley and other british aristocrats before England declared war on Germany

>wikipedia
>credible source

are you fags working hard for your
8th grade history project?

is that a meme? Hitler thought the slav was the ultimate Untermensch. not even a dangerous enemy like the Jew, just useless trash. He preferred actual Middle Easterners to Slavs

>Almost no one does

Yes they do. You are just socially retarded and divorced from reality.

>>muh Ukrainian Jews

not an argument. And so now is Wikipedia a good source to use?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_Bila_Tserkva_massacre


inb4 you try to twist this around to me saying I support Stalin like stormfags usually do
>implying Hitler didnt use the Ustase to kill off the serbs

>implying Hitler didnt let Mussolini massacre the serbs as well

What has good relations got to do with how you want to run your country? Socialistic countries had relations, even to Africa, they simply didn't want foreigners in their own land and monarchy absolutely wanted foreigners, since for one they had slaves all over the world.

stalin is just less recognizable. go wear a pol pot shirt and wonder why no one knows that azn fag

>socialistic
look I uderstand you were assraped by socialism for 50 years but that doesn't change the fact that Hitlerism was socialist in the jew bolshevist sense

>wikip

Stopped reading.

>who were the chetniks
Serbs massacred croats as well

hitler actually talked about germans being secondary to aryans. germany has always been about uniting neighbors into a larger whole and nazi germany was no different, the polish identity was to be destroyed in favor of the new man hitler tried to forge from pride and aggression, the aryan man

>less recognizable
oh my I wonder why

This one gets it.

People are so full of shit and propaganda during that time that you have to literally dig though thousands of pages of history books in order to find the truth.

Since the "dude have you read Mein Kampf?" argument is always brought up so often, try to find a passage were he talks about Slavs being subhumans needed to be exterminated.... you won´t find any.

What you´ll find is (keep in mind the book is from 1924) many incidents where he talks about slavs flooding into Vienna pre WW1 during Austria-Hungary. Thanks to this multi-ethnic state, he hated to see is home being flooded by slavs (just like today is happening all over europe, though not with slavs). He complains several times about that in the book. Of course, Nationalism, racism and the awareness of different ethnics was way way higher than it is today in the general population.

All this "muh master race" talk was for the german nation itself, it should be pure and clean and free of non germans. This did not include genocide of others because of untermenschen as the post war propaganda wants you to believe.

these 'quote' comes from the fictional 'der generalplan ost' wherein there are no actual documents. like most of the 'ebil germans want to destroy humanity' claims it was all just fucking made up and given a german author in order to villify them.

yeah the "proof" for generalplan ost along with 90% of the other alleged james bond villian teir nazi mischeif hinges entirely on show trial testimony

>mfw this mudblood was shitler's perfect human

>you won't find any
sure it doesn't explicitly says that
but he says Germany needs to expand eastwards for its survival

dravidian mix babies are not aryan anymore than obama is a white man

These quotes come from:

According to the United-Press agency, the U.S. authorities found in one of Frankfurt's secret bunker the Hitler's memorandum addressed to Himmler dated 4 March 1944. In this memorandum, discussing the affairs of nations shattered by the Third Reich, "fuerher" wrote about Poles.

You can even find a polish news article about that when you google it.

>This did not include genocide of others

except it did include that. Stop being retarded at history because you are too much of a bitch to admit Germany did some fucked up things you dindu

For the record, Proto-Indo-Europeans came out of the Caucasus/Turkey (still up to debate on which) area.

They would have been shitskins by most of Sup Forumss standards.