>it's 2017
>numerous studies have demonstrate that human beings can perfectly live without eating animal products
>there are STILL people that eat animal products
>isn't converted to veganism
user,how do you justify yourself for being such a fucking enormous faggot?
Go vegan today,for a better life-going and a better life for the animals too.
No thanks.
No but thanks for being vegan, that leaves more meat for me.
bacon. steak. sushi.
easting healthy doesn't make you live longer, just makes it seem longer.
Because meat is tasty, me like tasty meat, so i eat tasty meat. Also, yes you can live without animal product's, but a large amount of health problems will arise, you wont die, you will just suffer because you don't understand how nature works.
Because eating meat is an instinct.
Numerous studies have shown that OP is a faggot
As far as I know, it is not possible to survive without eating meat unless you eat fortified foods (e.g. cereal). You need B12.
trips cant lie
>years of your ancestors surviving and evolving have led up to you
>you decide to become a degenerate vegan
>literally becoming a herbivore by choice, because you're a giant faggot, the most beta thing you can do
>post on a taiwanese image board and spread your faggotry
Have you considered suicide, you pathetic degenerate?
False.
But I'm not a hippie fuck trying to shove plant based down anyone's throats like op :/
He's the reason people hate vegans/vegetarians.
My story, i cut out everything and was eating only salmon/shrimp/other fish VERY sparingly, and then cut it all out all together. I'm no longer a fat tub of lard and my liver enzymes are back to normal not dying levels.
It worked for me and ive never felt better. I also did it well, just cuz you cut out meaat doesnt mean a oreo cookie pie is now fucking breakfast.
But again user, plant based is pretty healthy if you do it properly.
We (Americans) could all do with REDUCED meat consumption for sure, because we simply eat too much of it and too often. But going vegan isnt the fucking answer for everyone and shoving it down people's throat make them hate the prospect even more you fucking idiot (op).
>being this mad because vegans are better people than the ones that eat meat
Yeah keep dreaming and eat meat faggot. One day when your cancer will kill you while feasting on a bbq ,just remember this post and suffer even more
But animals taste great.
I'm cutting down on red meat but that's mostly because cows fart more in one year than a human will in their lifetime (or some crazy shit like that) and it's contributing to fucking up our atmosphere, but I'm by no means stopping.
there's also studies that show cows, horses and deer can live perfectly fine off eating just grass, but there's tons of videos of em eating baby chickens and birds and shit, so why can't I live like these majestic creatures too? At least I'm humane enough to wait till my food's already dead before chewing it up, you goddamn fresh veggie eating monster.
Real health studies have proven that most healthy diet is a mainly vegetarian diet with white meat, like fish and poultry. Second most is vegetarian with some dairy products as well as eggs, and third is completely vegan. So either way, vegan diet isn't the most healthy and you're just lying to yourself to achieve a small moral high ground because most people in your life have always thought you were an asshole to begin with.
Who performed these studies? Are they peer-reviewed? Can you link them?
Fucking people and their labels, right now you're not being a vegan, you're being a fucking asshole.
Congrats on continuously propagating the fucking idea that all vegans are assholes....
Yeah, you'll be alright for a couple of years. In the long run it will start to show the result of your deficiencies
But in these day and age you can cover what you lack from your diet with supplements anyway, so it's totally fine to go vegan. Vegetarian will be more healthy tho.
Well... If you went from a normal american diet to vegan you're definitely eating healthier. There are a lot of more deficiencies in that diet than veganism lol. So a normal american will definitely become more healthy if s/he becomes vegan. Fo sho
Right? Like I stopped drinking 8 mountain dews a day, quick making McDonalds my main source of meals and started eating kale.
I feel like so much better, it must be JUST the kale.
You account for the possible deficiencies, b12 vitk, but the rest carb prot fat ratios can all be managed quite well. The bottom line is though that the american diet needs go change, fucking sausage for breakfast 300nuggets for lunch a steak for dinner and milkshakes for dessert on all three meals.......kinda explains the levels of cardiovascular disease and obesity in this country
It's not because you can than you must.
I eat meat, and I like it. I make sure the meat I eat isn't badly made, or isn't composed of dozens of newborn chicken crushed, but I eat meat.
And come on, vagina. It's technically meat.
No reasonable being is saying its just the "kale" insert fag voice here.
Hahahabha "The c-c-c-ancer will get you for eating meat."
Yeah im sure of it. Hope you enjoy being physically weak for the rest of your life. Maybe a pack of niggers will put you out of your misery, when they see your auschwitz-pussy-vegan-looking ass. Maybe you can tell them how they are hurting nature by eating all that kfc. Hahabhaha
>human beings can perfectly live without eating animal products
people can live without limbs or eyes or even without ears, but would you really call that living?
>itt: butthurt faggots that keep denying the truth,while they probably die at the age of 50 for cancer, because of all that "delicious meat" they ate
>eat baconators, double downs and Big Macs every meal and be a fat piece of shit
>cut out fast food and lose weight
>wow it must've been the meat:)
At least now you're just a retard instead of a fat retard.
I submit for your vegan approval a trio of herbivores eating small animals.
>Studies have shown you can live without running water, electricity and trap porn
>Still doesn't live in Africa
Literally no one is promised tomorrow. Eating leaves won't save you from a drunk driver.
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He is probably baiting i honestly dont fucking care what people eat. But when they try to come off as superior because of their diet. Pathetic special snowflake faggots.
Idiot plants want to live too. Why you put animallife over plantlife?
copy and pasted from a medical journal
A seemingly vegan food might just contain ingredients that aren’t suitable for a vegan diet. Take for example gelatin, which is derived from meat, and whey, which is derived from milk. Whey can be found in many granolas, breads, and more.
In addition to not eating meat, fish, or poultry, vegans steer clear of any animal products and by-products. That includes honey, eggs, dairy, cosmetics derived from animal products, and more. If you choose to go vegan, you may have a hard time choosing from the menu when dining out.
Potential vitamin and mineral loss
There are vegan sources for most nutrients, but it might be a challenge to consume enough of them. Take iron and vitamin D for example. Vitamin D isn’t typically found in the vegan diet, but can be obtained through exposure to sunlight. When people think iron, they typically think meat. But beans and leafy greens are also good sources, and you can increase iron absorption by coupling them with foods that are rich in vitamin C. You’ll also need to supplement vitamin B12, which only occurs naturally in animal foods.
A healthy diet should incorporate some form of protein into every meal. Since vegans forego typical protein sources like meat and eggs, they have to incorporate it through different means. If you’re thinking about going vegan, it’s time to stock up on soy, quinoa, lentils, and beans. And beware of overly-processed meat substitutes, which can be packed with sodium and preservatives. Check labels before opting for that frozen tofu burger
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>caring about other people's habits this hard
the only thing worse than a commie is a vegan commie. kys
It is proven that human beings do not need to consume semen to survive. So why do you keep sucking cocks, OP?
Why are vegans such assholes? Also, fucking sage.
>grandpa is 89
>ate meat all life
>good health, other than just being old
>hurr durr muh muh narrative sucks better meme it out
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>it's 2017
>numerous studies have demonstrate that human beings can perfectly live without electricity
>there are STILL people that use electricity
>isn't converted to amish
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You are a box of shining fucking rainbows.
I didn't say that dipshit, I responded that plant based can be healthy if done properly. I said it worked for me as far as getting to healthy and staying healthy. I'm not shoving it down anyone's throat and not saying its the panacea of health and wellness.
My point is and will be, plant based is healthy is done properly, it works for me. YOU DO YOU. You should consider reducing meat consumption if you eat it daily multiple times a day, but I'm not saying you're an asshole for doing it. I'm saying consider it for health promotion.
YOU SPECIFICALLY SHOULD CONSIDER
Not being a toxic asshole to people who are being diplomatic.
Nice bait, OP. But nothing you listed is the shit that'll convert me. I fucking hate animals and other people. I couldn't care less about animal suffering or people's opinion of me.
So you should update your copypasta to include the factoid about how farming all those animals is putting enormous amounts of methane in the atmosphere and shit. How commercial farming is destroying the earth via climate change. That is something a lot of people actually care about, and the one reason I've ever briefly considered veganism.
You also need extra A, D, E, and K; because they're fat soluble. Meaning, even though a vegan diet have plenty of those, the absorption rate will be kinda bad if you don't eat them with fat
Plus calcium, magnesium, zinc, those trace minerals are also important
The modern diet and lifestyle doesn't make any sense from health perspective. If it's not because our medical tech advancements, we would have lower life expectancies than our ancestors from 1000 year ago. Probably dies in the fucking 30s or 40s like a fucking caveman
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Yeah, i'm late to the party.
But perfectly live without meat.
Hardly.
Even if that was the case, studies show that babies that eat meat are smarter than babies that don't.
Its assumed that the developing brain can exert more effort growing using high powered meats than otherwise would be available.
Love it when people try to argue with vegans about the health risks of veganism.
Possible/probable deficiencies for a vegan not aware of the need for supplementation/eating of certain foods:
B12, Iron, D, Selenium, Iodine. That's pretty much it
Possible/probable deficiencies in non vegans:
B12, D, Folate, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium, Iodine, Selenium
Thinking vegans are "deficient" is utterly silly and shows you have little knowledge of human nutrition. I thought that myself until I did a little research after my best friend went vegan and I lold him out the room until I actually spoke to him about it properly, like a civilised human, like I talk about most other p ressing issues.
Exactly user.
If you're in the states though it doesnt have to be so drastic, just avoid maintaining the demand side at the current levels where people order a doubke quarter pounder three times a day. Even doing that would end up changing industry.
These assholes get so caught up in trying to eliminate it altogether from everyones plates that they discourage people from just reducing intake
Have you read any of the studies? None of them are conclusive. And a lot of the are actually flawed as hell
>durhurdur op doesnt bother me
>reee lemme tell you why you're wrong
Forgot to mention:
Obesity in vegans: ~9%
Obesity in USA: ~40%
Hmmmm
Exactly, you add oils, and......for the protein you hear people scream.....deeeeez nuts
Literally I've never had so many nuts, giggity, high calorie fuckers but packed with goodness
>OP thinks eating meat is bad
>Sucks his daddy's dick at daily basis
Faggot
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ALSO THE FDA JUST PROVED THAT MULTIVITAMINS AND MANY NUTRITIONAL SUBSTANCES ARE UTTERLY USELESS BECAUSE YOUR BODY REFUSES TO ABSORB THEM RIGHT IN PILL FORM YOU FUCKING MONOGLOID I HOPE YOU BLEED OUT FROM A PAPERCUT
'we're not deficient in these nutrients we just train our bodies not to need them anymore :D'
also, like i said, that list was cut and pasted from A MEDICAL JOURNAL WRITTEN BY A DOCTOR, which listed many health benefits as well
>converted to veganism
>no more acne
>body fat went so low I now got a sixpack
>still functioning perfectly
>better sleep
>feel well rested all the time
>never sick, strong immune system
>Chicks say my sperm taste better (probably cus of all the kiwis I eat.
>more stamina
>better sex
>Chicks fall for me like flies
Veganism basically best choice I made, Now I got to admit, sometimes I still eat cheese or milk or meat, but try to limit it like once a month max.
If you're a vegan and you're using a computer of any kind, to include; smartphones, wifi, the internet, laptops, or tablets, you are not a vegan, you are a hypocrite.
It's simple OP, I don't give a fuck about what my food thinks
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>that's pretty much it
No, no it's not
Look user, the studies done to promote the whole vegan thing used ppl with a typical american diet as "meat eaters", not ppl eating healthy. The worst one is the often quoted "China Study" they actually misinterpreted the data completely, that one's Best Korea's lvl on misinterpretation
But yeah, it can be done healthily enough. Like an omnivore diet can be done healthily
Did you know that harvesting machines filter also little animals (rabbits, birds, etc) when they work?
Those animals are there to eat the crops, so they're handled like plagues... no released precisely.
You can't even eat bread without killing animals.
products from animals are used for far more than just food you idiot.
^this
if you claim to be a vegan or vegetarian for moral reasons and are still using anything that uses or is related to plastics or other such materials, you're a massive hypocrite.
Omnivore
> is neither herbivore or carnivore eats BOTH
First: all serious studies proved that, vegan diet is not more healthy and; actually, vegan are not free of cancer or anything
nationalpost.com
Second: I don't care if you have some moral issues about killing or eating animals. Is up to you and, as I said, I give zero shits about your life. But, let me give to you some perspective. You're here talking about misconceptions and lies, telling us how bad is to eat meat because cancer and a personal moralistic personal view. You assigned rights and, let me call it "soul" to animal for your own sake, but you, on the other hand, don't have any kind of problem killing plants and eat them. Science as proved beyond any doubt that plants are, first, living organism, second, conscious and react to stimuli and, third, social. They created the most perfect, symbiotic and altruistic environment not only themselves, but with other organism. They communicated, help and improved everyone life for the sake of survival. But, you don't have any kind of problem destroying them, or helping to destroy them for the sake of your fable "vegan farms", killing thousands of animals for soil. And, talking about farms and vegans. The only reason why you're a vegan is because food industry help you to be one. You don't have a farm, you don't plant, grow and farm your crops. You're a hypocritical millennial living a easy and auto complacent life or, you grow your own activated almonds? fuck no
people can perfectly live without cars and the internet too but it doesn't mean we have to. Animals are a lower form of life than us, they exist to either serve or stay out of the way
Nuts are good. And mushrooms I guess. Be careful with the beans because that shit actually increases the risk of cancer if eaten too much
wat
you should probs go vegan, lower your chronic inflammation and potentially make sesne bro
I don't have the money to go vegan
obvious bait, sage
Of course it is, but there are actual vegan cunts that will see this and agree with it.
>comparing people with a very restricted diet to people who shovel cheeseburgers into their mouth 24/7
this isnt a comparison about the 'type' of foods people eat its about different types of people
ALSO VEGANS MAKE UP LITERALLY
How can you have a vitamin deficiency if you're a non vegan? eating meat doesnt mean you refuse to eat vegetables of any kind. If I decide to eat the perfect vegan diet and then also have meat with it then surely I'll get the best of both worlds.
Yeah, being vegan carries different health risks, but it's definitely there
Can we pls differentiate between healthy omnivores and ppl with normal modern diet though? Because it's a whole different demographic
>not understanding english
wat
fucking vegans, confronted with information and they magically cant see it anymore
>If I decide to eat the perfect vegan diet
>also have meat with it
Pic one or call yourself vegetarian, everything else is bullshit
the point is if you eat whatever vegans eat and then also eat meat then you're not going to be missing any vitamins are you?
this. the only reason to be vegan is if youre in peta or an animal freak. if thats the case then i accept and respect your decisions
if youre one of the retard vegans who never stop with their shrill 'HUMANS DONT NEED MEAT OR ANIMAL PRODUCTS TO SURVIVE' bullshit then kindly kill yourself with a meat grinder
Brutal nature, zero fucks given.
I'd agree wholeheartedly if I was a narcissistic vegan faggot
vegan diets are full of phytoestrogen
Well, either you're an idiot or just being facetious
PETA can't be vegans actually, they murder animals by the buckets
You're a fucking faggot OP. Mankind was put on this planet to eat the fucking animals. It is the way of the nature. I'm sure the animals don't mind and even if they do fuck 'e m cause I'm gonna eat them.
if we weren't supposed to eat animals, than why are they made of food?
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"2017 it's proven you can live your hole life without sticking your dick in a pussy."
Sure but why the fuck whould I?
OP you are an even greater fag then usuall today.
Animals taste good pussy boy
>tells OP how to improve his b8
>someone else tries to b8 him
At least yours was semi good.
Human beings can live under many types of shitty conditions. But why would you want to?
Cattle wouldn't even exist if humans didn't breed them into existence. Their wild counterparts are as different from cows as wolves are from dogs. They exist to be eaten.
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Time flies when you're a faggot
that it does faggot
that it does
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i dont consider it to be perfectly healthy if i have to take supplements or seek out a random specific plant to eat daily to survive.
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