Taylor Swift Is Too Strong For Feminism

She's an Ubermensch and you know it
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she's a two-faced bitch. she is a cancer on this planet.

i dont like this meme anymore

Ubemensch is something to strive for

taylor swift is a literal jew, the very antithesis of what "ubermensch" entails

explain (((man)))

>being this retarded

So this is what happens when you tread on Taylor...

taylor swift is too unwilling to alienate a single potential customer for actual feminism, which would require her to speak out in favor of anything at all that isn't herself

Or perhaps she refuses to be an useful idiot for (((modern feminism)))

nah feminism is badass, it's just also slightly controversial and that ain't good for taylor

>hegemonic ideology
>controversial
top kek, you're a tool of the system lad

sorry to burst your bubble but taylor swift is not a nazi, she's just a capitalist

I didn't believe she was a nazi, it's just a meme. But she's definitely more wholesome than the rest of pop stars, and not a tool for cultural marxism. That's good enough for me.

cultural marxism is good

kill yourself

don't tell someone to do that, that's a rude thing to say to another person

It's better than actually killing someone. The fruits of Marxism are historically shown to result in that, so he's better than any proponent of it.

Cultural marxism now, faggot!

>Or perhaps she refuses to be an useful idiot for (((modern feminism)))
Didn't refuse to be one for her producers and PR experts. Just like every top 40 act.

(you)

What a reasoned and well-sourced response. Surely capitalism has killed more than socialism and communism. It's only been 147,894,610 (not counting wars) over the past 100 years collectively. Why, that only averages out to about 1.5 million deaths per year, every year, for a hundred years straight, that are directly caused by communism and socialism. And think of what we've gained from it! Forced labor for dissent! Decimation of local and traditional cultures (Sovietization, cultural revolution)! Famine (sometimes not even on purpose)! The sanctioning of Trofim Denisovich Lysenko's ideas (that Lysekoism was the official Soviet science for biology and agronomy for nearly 20 years is worse then Lysenkoism itself, I think)! Surely capitalism's contributions to humanity cannot compare. Surely.

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what if all of those deaths and the use of Communism was the only thing keeping those nations falling completely apart?

You talk like the majority of those populations freely chose communism. In reality, communism is a revolutionary concept, i.e., it is preceded by a revolution against the existing government. It is then imposed and sustained with violence in general and extreme prejudice against dissent specifically (because dissent poses an existential threat to this system of governance). Hence the nine figure body count. What you're trying to say is that in those cases is they had to destroy the country to save it, which is precisely as ridiculous as it sounds.

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>tfw nazis misappropriate your term

deaths that have happened while capitalism is around isn't the same as people being killed by capitalism you daft cunt

I'm not following your argument here, but I think you may have misunderstood those numbers. Those are intentional deaths, not incidental. That is to say, the 147,894,610 number does not represent people who died of natural causes under the listed communist and socialist governments. Those are people who were executed, purged, deliberately starved to death, dissapeared (often to work camps or prisons where they were worked to/until death), or otherwise killed by military or police action. You appear to be trying to make the case that people die under capitalism, which I won't deny. Everyone dies. The case I'm making is that the fruits of Marxism are the most deleterious movements in human history. I say this not just because of the absurd human cost (the aforementioned 147,894,610 over 100 years), but because it has contributed nearly nothing of value when compared to every other type of governance. Even the most basic of tribal communities at least strive to sustain. The descendants of Marxism will sacrifice reason, productivity, and life to remain ideologically pure, and gain nothing of value for the loss.

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Students of Nietzsche are the cringiest.

as i said shes an actual jew who treats gentiles like shit, all first person accounts ive heard of people meeting her said that she was extremely rude, she thinks you and I are subhumans

an ubermensch wouldn't happily dupe a close friend at a moment's notice

ayyyy
I left it at that with the guy butthurt about me telling him to khs but you went the full mile, kek
Oh yeah? Because I don't see her promoting the degeneracy others do

>tfw no doom metal cat
life is suffering

>shes an actual jew
you're an actual retard
and celebs get sick of people approaching them at the most inappropriate times

Nietzsche hated anti-semites.

None of those are or were legitimate Marxist nations though. They were Marxist-Leninist, and were composed of many ideals that completely go against what socialism and Marxism stand for. Actual Marxism has yet to truly be tested.

Also, what is the true, legitimate definition of cultural marxism? Is that a term that even existed before poltard gamergaters came out the woodworks?

>it wasn't real marxism!
>muh goobergate
Have you ever heard of Antonio Gramsci? Moron

kk so jews get a free pass to treat people however they like without criticism

Taylor Swift IS NOT a jew, idiot

Are you equating Gramsci's thoughts on Cultural Hegemony as Cultural Marxism? Especially when Gramsci very clearly indicated hegemonic culture as a problem of capitalism and among the reasons he was Marxist?

look it up bruh, funny because alt-righters idolize her

>he fell for the propaganda article disguised as humor by (((Ned Resnikoff))) on Medium
That kike is terrified about WN so he made a shitty piece on Taylor Swift hoping it'd stick. Judging by you, it worked.

yeah feminism isn't controversial it's just everyone's go-to thing to constantly whine about nonstop and generalize everyone who is one

But if it wasn't controversial, views of people like you or the various anti-feminist reddit spots or the many youtube video makers that rally against it wouldn't be so popular. The very reaction people like you have for feminism gives it the controversial quality it has.

There's even an offended kike because he doesn't like Taylor
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exactly, it's the way you pretend to be rebellious while not being rebellious at all
In truth, conservatism is the new punk rock, the new counterculture. That's why you see the edgy gen Z kids being so "problematic".

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Well if you ever actually read Nietzsche instead of just posting a word he coined to support your vague good/bad dichotomy.

>In truth, conservatism is the new punk rock, the new counterculture. That's why you see the edgy gen Z kids being so "problematic".
lol no
it's funny that you think there's anything funny about bigotry

I just hate communism so much. I don't even like to hate, but it's taken so much from humanity. I'm in Romania right now and people I've talked to note that Romania is only now, almost 30 years after communism, rediscovering it's culture and history. I say rediscovering because Sovietization repressed or destroyed so much of it to suit their political wants.

True Marxism has never been implemented because it requires humans to disregard the very human nature of improving themselves in any lasting way. In order for it to work, everyone must consider work a need (or "...after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want..." as Marx put it), duty completely above personal interests (to include family), and for leaders to be pure, blameless bureaucratic functionaries (an impossible ideal). You'll note I've use the term "fruits of Marxism"; this is because Marxism simply cannot be done. And the fruits of Marxism are poison. Judge a tree by it's fruit.

Every country a descendant of Marxism has taken hold of has their culture overwritten to support the new political system, and most of them crib from the Soviets. Marxism practices cultural hegemony.

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Cultural marxism is just subversion, it's the "nice left" before the revolution, preparing the ground for it. Then those idealist SJWs get massacred once they aren't useful anymore.

>an ubermensch wouldn't happily dupe a close friend
Why not? An ubermensch would have no problem doing that if it brought them closer to some other higher goal.

>True Marxism has never been implemented because it requires humans to disregard the very human nature of improving themselves in any lasting way. In order for it to work, everyone must consider work a need (or "...after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want..." as Marx put it), duty completely above personal interests (to include family), and for leaders to be pure, blameless bureaucratic functionaries (an impossible ideal). You'll note I've use the term "fruits of Marxism"; this is because Marxism simply cannot be done. And the fruits of Marxism are poison. Judge a tree by it's fruit.
This is not a description of true Marxism at all, just Marxist-Leninism. Marxism has a focus on product value based labor rather than the wage labor of capitalism (which has shown itself to be not only awful in these recent decades where wages don't equate to worker productivity and has severely weakened wages) or the complete disregard of capitalism in the Marxist-Leninist system which is what you described. Also not sure where you got the leaders to be pure and blameless when Marx' works said anything but that for people who are hierarchically higher in society/class.
>Every country a descendant of Marxism has taken hold of has their culture overwritten to support the new political system, and most of them crib from the Soviets. Marxism practices cultural hegemony.
And the capitalist countries haven't been doing this? Hell, from a sheer theoretical perspective, it benefits capitalist countries a lot more to do that thanks to potential payoffs within in a capitalist economy that one might benefit from. Though I agree that cultural hegemony is possible where the upper class or upper echelon of people in general have too much power. That takes into account both capitalism and Marxist-Leninism as true Marxism is against that.

Thanks for proving my point though, you tried.

>tfw each day that goes by you become more and more sympathetic to nazis thanks to dumb leftists and their illogical arguments

Is this a right wing psyops to make me a nazi?

No it's just you denying the facts and getting fear mongered like the uneducated swine you are.

>(((((facts)))))

Back to the gulag my friend.

I looked into value-based labor and it reads like a word salad written by someone who never worked a day of labor in his life or managed someone who did. I'll read more into it, but the big problem I see is that effort put into labor is subjective. A weaker person will work harder to lay the same amount of bricks as a stronger person. So how do you judge who applied more labor, and who gets paid more? How do you ensure whoever is judging what effort is expended is judging fairly and has not been compromised? That's kind of what I was getting at with my point about bureaucrats. To implement this idea in an ideologically pure way, you'd need people to be selfless on a nearly instinctual level. Marxism is an interesting theory, no doubt. If only what it produced was not so evil, murderous, and detrimental to humanity.

Let me show you how worthless Marxism is using value-based labor: a lot of effort has been expended on the study of Marxism. However, "Actual Marxism has yet to truly be tested.". The collateral results of Marxism are obscene amounts of death, repression, and destruction. Even being charitable and not counting this as a product of Marxism (because it's "never been tested"), the labor put into it resulted in nothing productive.

It doesn't matter how much effort and labor you put into something. If people don't want it, they won't use it. Evidently, the people who know about Marxism and have the power to enact it don't actually want it. It does not have value.

If you can look at all the harm that has risen from Marxist-inspired governments, weigh it against the concrete benefits produced by the (still untried after 170 years) ideologically pure Marxist theory, and still think to yourself "this is a good thing that I should support", I think you may actually be evil.

It's late in Romania and I need to sleep. Good night.

>dupe a close friend
you're a moron and distorting the truth

Labor doesn't give something worth, supply and demand does

>I'll read more into it, but the big problem I see is that effort put into labor is subjective.
Have you not done basic level economics to know how input and output are quantified? This isn't subjective about muh hard work at all. Rather, it would be based on the labor variable that would be used in equations like Cobb-Douglas.
>To implement this idea in an ideologically pure way, you'd need people to be selfless on a nearly instinctual level.
The same way with capitalism. I don't understand how you think the concept of checks and balances is somehow only applicable to capitalism. That is unless...
>Let me show you how worthless Marxism is using value-based labor: a lot of effort has been expended on the study of Marxism. However, "Actual Marxism has yet to truly be tested.". The collateral results of Marxism are obscene amounts of death, repression, and destruction. Even being charitable and not counting this as a product of Marxism (because it's "never been tested"), the labor put into it resulted in nothing productive.
Unless you're STILL equivocating Marxist-Leninism with Marxism when I have now repeatedly given examples that this is not how it works.
>It doesn't matter how much effort and labor you put into something. If people don't want it, they won't use it. Evidently, the people who know about Marxism and have the power to enact it don't actually want it. It does not have value.
Are you saying that supply & demand aren't taken into account in Marxism? Are you mentally deficient? FFS value theory works off of the fluctuations of market prices. But of course as can be shown, no matter how many times I display otherwise, you'll keep equivocating Marxism to Marxist-Leninism where this is not true.
>I think you may actually be evil.
If you still can't into difference between Marxism and Marxist-Leninism, then I think you may actually be fucking retarded.

>Marxism is an interesting theory, no doubt. If only what it produced was not so evil, murderous, and detrimental to humanity.
exactly

>value theory works off of the fluctuations of market prices
Can't have market values if you have no market

I never said it doesn't. Nor does Marxism. It just focuses more strictly on labor in a way that isn't as straightforward as labor wage relationships of capitalism to have optimal productivity for markets while the laborers' own value doesn't decline. Please, do your research and learn to read. Don't be like this other idiot.
I said works off of it. As in, trying to get past its faults and going beyond the market economy concept where it's just markets clearing. This is especially true for our service dominant economy.

I see you have bought into the spook of value

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I really do need to sleep, but you are not getting what I'm saying, even though I said it I don't know how many times, so here it is with arrows and what not:
Marxism----->communism/socialism----->demonstrably bad things
demonstrably bad things come from communism/socialism. Communism/socialism came from Marxism. No Marxism, no demonstrably bad things. Other things Marxism produced: people who talk about Marxism ("Actual Marxism has yet to truly be tested").
So, Marxism ultimately produced:
-demonstrably bad things
-not real Marxism ("Actual Marxism has yet to truly be tested", said since it's creation)
-people who talk about Marxism and in doing so perpetuate this list (you are here).

You can argue the details of theory all you like. All the study of Marxist theory has produced in 170 years of existence is pain, death, and wasted Marxist breath. Perpetuate it, I won't stop you. But don't be surprised if a day comes when someone your theory has wronged comes to you for repayment in flesh.

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>Marxism----->communism/socialism--->demonstrably bad things
Except this is impossible to say because we have yet to see real Marxism being done for this to happen. The baseline you're using already started with Marxist-Leninism.

I understand that what the Communist nations have done is horrible, but at the same time when there's very clearly contradictions there between thought process, theory, and approach, then perhaps there's something worth looking into here. Personally I want to see some sort of tests run through experimental mini-economies akin to UBI being tested in Denmark.

Also get some sleep, man. Arguing on Sup Forums all night isn't worth it whether you're right or wrong.

*farts*.

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lol my posts got deleted but its ok to discuss marxism??

>feminism is badass
bash the fash and smash my gash amirite?

kek

She's definitely not a feminist but doesn't appear like an übermensch either. She's just a very clever business person.

Wait, is this thread still about Tay-Tay?

Nigga, her main market is a backwards shithole that's Murica. Feminism could cost her sales.

Quirky

idk if troll or if im on Sup Forums

kek

all time deaths due to socialism: 0
all time deaths due to capitalism: 600 trillion
source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

checkmate retard

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good argument you've got there user

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Have you seen the way she dresses? She's a hoe. She's objectively a slave to the Jews idea of sexual appeal. Not much uber about that, now is there? That, and she's never pleased a man. And her """music""" sucks. Into the trash it goes.

She stays out too late. She has nothing in her brain.