Is this elaborate b8 or is 'electronic music' really more varied and expansive than 'guitar music'?
Is this elaborate b8 or is 'electronic music' really more varied and expansive than 'guitar music'?
much more varied
Deafheaven and Beatles are literally the same thing.
turny out
any variation in tempo, rhythm, or progression is a different genre to bleepfags
>no subgenres edition
>has a bunch of EDM subgenres
EDM isn't a genre
neither is your mom
Neither is rock
yes it is, it's subgenres include techno, house, DnB, and trance
Why does electronic have subgenres but guitar music doesn't?
And funk, reggae and rock are all subgenre of twingy twang
REGGAE FUCKING SUCKS
They both have just subgenres of their primary but no more
>writing off entire genres
>being racist
>*other dumb memerap fan arguments*
>is 'electronic music' really more varied and expansive than 'guitar music'?
Short answer: yes.
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Friendly reminder that EDM is as much of a genre as is Rock.
Friendly reminder that not all electronic music is EDM, and that not all Rock music is guitar music.
>Friendly reminder that not all electronic music is EDM, and that not all Rock music is guitar music.
No fucking shit! Really? Now if only there was a picture to show this, oh wait, there's one in the OP.
I think you mean not all guitar music is rock music
thats not elaborate b8 but it is b8. the subgenre lists are retarded. you could count 1000s of genres for each. whose to say how much differentiation you need to warrant a genre or not.
rock music is inherently less varied though. electronic music entails any possible combination of sounds. rock music is a very specific style.
Read again, retard. Rock is not exclusively guitar music.
>rock music is a very specific style
Wrong. Try to define rock music. It's impossible.
Oh yeah, that thread earlier where a whopping 4 artists were posted and one was called electronic music by major critics lmao
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If you include effects applied through pedals and such, which you kinda have to, then both are equally as vast. That being said, electronic music has a much easier time actually exploring all of that space because humans suck at performing inhumanly precise rhythms and microtones (hence the adjective). It doesn't actually matter too much in practice since most electronic music is stuff that could have been arranged and performed by live musicians anyway but assholes with an agenda will claim a moral victory there.
At the end of the day they're basically the same thing though, seriously. It's just the mindset behind how the tools are used that changes, but that's something wildly independent from the tools themselves and doesn't have to be the case.
Name 5 rock bands that don't fit.
Define rock music first. Citing a whole Wikipedia article is not defining it. By that logic I could cite the entire EDM Wikipedia article to prove EDM is a genre.
That says rock is a genre, the universally accepted definition is in there, the article about the umbrella of subjective danceable music using electronic instruments doesn't say it's a genre.
I'll wait for your list...
>race card
lol how's your first year of college user
>Define rock music first.
Different user.
Rock music: Music written to be performed by an (at minimum) 4-piece ensemble consisting of electric guitar, bass, drums/percussion and vocals.
You've just excluded so much rock from the genre I wonder if this is ironic.
reggae is good
you're reggay
Such as?
>You've just excluded
>[citation needed]
What rock songs do you know of AREN'T suitable for performance by a clearly defined guitar/bass/drums/vocals ensemble?
The White Stripes
>performed by an (at minimum) 4-piece ensemble
Shellac
Boris
Rush
Jimi Hendrix
ELP
Nirvana
ZZ Top
Motorhead
Cream
aren't rock, who knew
Nirvana, Motorhead, Hendrix had all 4?
>thousands of dollars of tacticool equipment to recreate the sound of a guitar with a chorus pedal
but he said they need to be 4 piece ensembles, all of those bands listed are 3 piece bands. one person handles vocals and an instrument.
anyways, vocals aren't necessary either. there's such thing as instrumental rock.
Theoretically, it's not even a contest. The possibilities of "electronic music" are a greater infinity than the possibilities of "guitar music"
at one point yes, at others no for some
Nirvana was foremost Cobain, Grohl, and Novoselic
Original JHE was Hendrix, Mitchell, and Redding, who was replaced by Cox
Motorhead had been a bass/drum/guitar with vocals power trio for most of the band's history
ANYTHING WITHOUT VOCALS
>universally accepted definition
Post it. I know you won't because it isn't there and because there isn't one on the first place.
>>performed by an (at minimum) 4-piece ensemble
Just as I suspected. You didn't understand what I wrote
I said a 4-PIECE - not PERSON - ensemble. How many people are in a group is immaterial. It's about the way things are structured in terms of basic orchestration You can have an act like the White Stripes where guitar, bass, and vocals are all effectively done by one person while another person finishes out the 4th role in the ensemble with drums.
Same story with every one of the artists mentioned here as well.
>the sound of a guitar with a chorus pedal
And an overdriven tube amp. And a bass guitar with pedals. And a bass amp. And a synthesizer with pedals. And a keyboard amp. And a full drum kit. And all the mics needed to amp a drum kit...
see
Lol this is what I get for using technical music terminology around amateurs...
I notice your list of examples has nothing in it...
lightning bolt
toe
>no subgenre edit
Lightning Bolt and Hella are rock and are less than 4 piece ensembles, so your definition is wrong. Same goes for Emerson Lake Palmer.
kek
> house, uk garage, and breaks being separate genres
> hip hop considered a form of either and not a separate thing
> downtempo/chillout being literally separate from chillwave
> jazz fusion being electronic music at all(!!!??)
my favourite electronic artist is miles davis
>inb4 wikipedia
>musique concrete involving guitars, or having stemmed from guitar music
Elaborate b8, m8. The creator of that image should count himself lucky no one on Sup Forums knows what that genre is.
You are not the first one to notice it, it's just not the relevant part of the argument implied by the image. It's like correcting someones ortography instead of debating.
>Lightning Bolt and Hella
Are both guitar-based jazz ensembles, aka what ill-informed youngins' such as yourself refer to as "math rock" groups. NOT rock bands.*
>Emerson Lake Palmer
Bass + vocals + drums
With a synth player pulling double duty as lead guitar/bass line
Were a synth-jazz crossover act who routinely get lumped in with generic rock music because there haven't been enough synth-jazz acts around to codify it as its own genre, and they sometimes also used guitars - thereby satisfying the guitar + bass + drums + vocals minimum requirement.
* Hence why most people just roll their eyes whenever the topic of "math rock" comes up. It's an extremely misunderstood genre - even by many of its fans/performers.
Lightning Bolt are Jazz then? lol
>Bass + vocals + drums
>With a synth player pulling double duty as lead guitar/bass line
So, no guitars, therefore not rock. Thank you for proving yourself your definition of rock was wrong.
>they sometimes also used guitars
But according to you, their songs without guitars are not rock.