What happened Portugal? How did you guys manage to lose all of you empire?

What happened Portugal? How did you guys manage to lose all of you empire?

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lisbon earthquake

had to rebuild their own country, couldnt afford to suppress darkies any ore

Actually it was directly because of pic related (Carnation revolution)

One of our kings was a cuck and declared independence for Brazil (Grito do Ipiranga; Ipiranga shout)
Communist revolution ended the glorious regime of Salazarand Marcello Caetano in 1974 wich made us lose our African provinces (google how amazing our country was under Salazar and our colonial war)
Macau was given back as our time owning it in the contract as a commercial harbor ended
We had great kings and one or two retards who did hard to repair damage
The poo in loos caught us off guard and took our last Indian province around the 60s I think

All in all, we had a good run, epic battles were fought and won, google some of them like Aljubarrota and many others
Pic related as an example

>inb4 spaniards come in "muh Portugal is ours because we were bureaucratic cunts and ruled us for 60 years"
But we ended their rule with
>A
>FUCKING
>WARDROBE


Also around 95% white population (last time I checked)
Only 0,6% of the population are jews, muslims, hindus, etc
Based Flag, Based History (Reconquista, burning jews and heretics, kicking out the jews, god tier battles where spanish, shitskins and others got absolutely rekt, based coats of arms, Salazar which you should google about because the man was awesome, etc)
Beautiful women (no moustache meme pls, never seen any on a girl and I live in the north which is the most rural area)

TL;DR: shit happens

Forgot the pic

You guys probably have one of the most based crests. Remember finding this a while ago. Just straight up has decapitated mudslimes in it.

They had this huge empire of colonies all over the place. This brought massive wealth influx. Then they figured, "hey, why work and build a sustainable economy, we got all this gold and spices stuff coming in by ship every other week".
So they spent like a lottery winner and saved nothing. Living like kings while it lasted.
Then, one by one, the colonies got their independance and Portugal lost most of its income. There.

Burgers and Soviet applying pressure on them.

America happened. As this jew colony gained independence all the other colonies realized that europe wasnt invincible. So they started getting more nationalistic and with the help of jewmerica they gained independece. Like the african colonies where america supported niggers who were raping and murdering white europeans. That is why europe is being flooded with immigrants right now. Because the eternal fagmerican wants to cuck white people out of existance including them selves

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Sadly all of this except America did ease up on Salazar once they realized how much he hated commies. But the damage was done. We were winning the war but a fucking communits revolution that our government didn't think would happen due to a stopped attempt before, fucked up everything.

Even our flag is based, and there's way more crests like that. Reconquista 2.0 when?

I don't know if my ID is the same because I was on mobile when I posted that but I'm now on my PC

I'm proud of my country despite everything, we have a really based history.

Like this one:

Afonso IV tried several times to arrange for his son to be remarried, but Pedro refused to take a wife other than Inês, who was not deemed eligible to be queen. Peter's legitimate son, future King Ferdinand I of Portugal, was a frail child, whereas Peter and Inês's illegitimate children were thriving; this created even more discomfort among the Portuguese nobles, who feared the increasing Castilian influence over Peter. Afonso IV banished Inês from the court after Constance's death, but Peter remained with her declaring her as his true love. After several attempts to keep the lovers apart, Afonso IV ordered Inês's death. Pêro Coelho, Álvaro Gonçalves, and Diogo Lopes Pacheco went to the Monastery of Santa Clara-a-Velha in Coimbra, where Inês was detained, and killed her, decapitating her in front of her small child. When Peter heard of this he sought out the killers and managed to capture two of them in 1361. He executed them publicly, ripping their hearts out claiming they didn't have one having pulverized his own heart and then ate the killer's hearts.

Continued: After Peter became king of Portugal, he had Inês's body exhumed from her grave and forced the entire court to swear allegiance to their new queen: "The king caused the body of his beloved Inês to be disinterred, and placed on a throne, adorned with the diadem and royal robes and required all the nobility of the kingdom to approach and kiss the hem of her garment, rendering her when dead that homage which she had not received in her life...

Despite your ultimatum and taking advantage of every once in a while, you are our greatest ally England; VOTE BREXIT

Truly the greatest ally, you even went as far as supporting Rhodesia in their time of need.

This was the perfect leader, if only the communists didn't shit all over all the good he did for this country; he was never rich, he was modest and proud of it, he never stole anything; he was a cathedratic teacher of Law and Economics recognized by the world. Fuck the EU and fuck the communists.

It was never ours to begin with, not like Britain, that made mini-Britains in every colony. Too few people to be able to send them overseas and take care of the Empire, not enough capital to build ships so we had to borrow funds from Northern Europe. Portuguese went overseas to get rich, not build an Empire. If they got rich there, they stayed there.

Also, fuck free speech, fuck indoor bathrooms, and mostly fuck off knowing how to read well enough to be able to think for themselves and find out that there's a man behind the curtain.

Dude what, you're kidding right?
By that logic where is the English Empire now then? >inb4 anglo nations

Oh so we didn't built cities in Angola? Macau? Brazil? Mozambique? etc
not enough capital to build ships? What, I think you forgot that the Spanish destroyed our fleet with their stupid attack on Britain and the fact that we had one of the most powerful navies for a long time.
Pick up a history book.
And what the hell are you talking about? We sent governors jsut like the british did and nobles too. Or are you going to tell me that al of their colonies were entirely british?
Seriously, pick up a book once in a while or at least you should've paid attention in class.

"muh free speech" you mean talking about communist bullshit? I wish that crap was still prohibited nowadays, look at where fucking socialism got us.
Yes the illiteracy was high but for Christ's sake what the fuck did you expect? It's not like it was any better in the Republic and we were building schools, tons of the ones around where I live are from those times.
Indoor bathrooms? lol are you going to judge the state of a country by it's rural development? Salazar was a miracle worker but he couldn't do everything in half a decade. He stabilised the economy and Marcello started to put the money to good use.

Becuz Dutch
The Muslims were also causing problems

>They also lost to the Ming Chinese back then
when the Chinks were governed by other
Chinks and were stronk.
timothybrook.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Brook-Trade-and-Conflict.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tunmen
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Xicaowan

>"muh free speech" you mean talking about communist bullshit? I wish that crap was still prohibited nowadays, look at where fucking socialism got us.

It's because of this nobody listens to you. You do not engage in discussion, you try to impose your views. That grants you no credibility and turns people off. It's much easier to instill doubt on people who are sure of themselves than you think. You just have to deal with them like you deal with teenagers.

Kennedy and Communism.

Kennedy funded rebels in Africa fighting against colonies which were on amiable terms to the west.

Whatever that cunt was(n't) thinking about is that maybe a Communist takes over the country.

What a bloody idiot.

>muh self-determination

Portugals had barely any policies against blacks.

They could serve in the armed forces and hold higher positions as long as they were qualified for them.

For fucks sake we mourned an African football player and build a bloody statue for him.

Fuck them.

Fuck them for what they did to South Africa and Rhodesia.

Kikeloving bastard was probably killed due to noticing that he was doing nothing more than the bidding of some Globalist whores.

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Former Portuguese multicontinental empire

I tried to impose my views? What? How did I try to impose my view? I gave my opinion on how I would rather have things working out.

You want to argue about socialistic effects on Portugal? Dude go ahead, I'm here.

>turns people off
Literally everyone I have talked to about this in real life has if not agreed with me, at least accepted that I have good points. I agree that I was rough on how I said it on that post but I never saw it so straight forwardly or suddenly when actually talking about it with someone.

>ID: die
Calm down, I was just giving my opinion man

It's at 95%, obviously the old people who were born in rural areas are uneducated in a formal sense.

My man

This, Portugal never had any severe racial disparities and as a result our nogs are fairly civilized

Also, ease up on the potato stealing

source:
thejournal.ie/cso-crime-statistics-2510534-Dec2015/

You are openly implying freedom of speech is a bad idea. That is a red flag for someone who is into imposing his views on other people. The revolution that took place in Portugal, in the end, allowed free speech, letting you say what you are saying right now. You couldn't, if it went wrong.

Today, to have sway, you must win the intellectual battle, both in the public opinion and in universities. To do that, you actually engage with the other side, instead of trying to dismiss it and circle jerk about it with similar minded people.

It's not that surprising that people around you agree with you, given that you have those views and that you live in a rural area. However, try talking to people from Lisbon with that tone, for instance, especially young people, and you'll see how far you go. Those are the people you have to convince.

Lol literacy rose a record amount during Salazar's later years

No one has to convince the niggers, Gypsies and Ukrainians in Lisbon
Lisbon isn't Portuguese anymore

Look, a great deal of the upper-middle class in Portugal lives in Lisbon because it's where the highest paying jobs are at. Those people, when they hear you say things like that, think of you as a crazy and will not listen to you because of that.

Also, visit Lisbon, walk around in the areas that are consider to be the center of Lisbon and tell me how many non-white you see.

actually in the city itself there ain't much, they mostly live in the outdoors of Lisbon

where I happen to live ;__;

I 100% agree but like I said, I do not dismiss it; I actually enjoy debating about these things, and although I gave myself a bad start to that discussion here, believe me, I do not dismiss peopl'e opinions but rather deconstruct them and analyze them bit by bit when confronting them about it.

I live in Vila do Conde near Porto and I'm 20, made in April. A lot of the young people I talk to agree to a certain extent, especially when bringing up the difference between the state's economy and political rotativity, it's always either PS or PSD.
It's surprising, you'd expect people in the rural area to be more fed up with Salazar than in the cities, as you lived better in those (usually) but yes, the literacy was also higher in the cities. I encourage people to think for themselves rather than spewing out opinions read on the internet or passed on by their parents.
Lisbon is although not that much compared to other European capitals, still multicultural and there will be more diversity in opinions.
Take Alentejo for example, mostly rural and mostly communist (I know, mostly because of the communal farms).

You're right.

>pic is Portugal's evolution of our national debt

Based salazar


Free speech kill all the greatness in a society

What are you talking about? All of the European countries gave up basically all of their empires (apart from the odd island here and there). It was a global trend.

>Portugal
>white

Lol

>U.S
>White
>using sports as a way to determine a country's whiteness level

We have a ~95% white percentage, can you say the same?

Dude, that guy is from Zaire.

Burgers will be burgers

>inb4 people with a healthy tan means they have nig nog ancestry rather than living in a sunny country

The main problem in Portugal is that people here to not know how to negotiate, how to compromise with each other. For instance, I do believe unions play a useful role in society but the Portuguese ones are an absolute disgrace. Moreover, our politicians as soon as they get to power try to revert what the previous ones did. This is madness. A widespread philosophy of "it's my way or no way" usually fucks a country up. Still, people like it, or else Bernie wouldn't so popular in the US (the guy did nothing because of his inflexibility and people still like him).

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Make Portugal great again.

EXACTLY
101% with you on that one.
Like I said, it's always PS or PSD and they always fuck up everything the other has barely begun to do.

Bernie is a mess :^)
Seriously though, Bernie is popular in the U.S because "muh free shit" and it's different from their usual politicians, let's not forget the demographics and mindset of his supporters though.

> that fist

Half of our army fighting there was black, voluntary black people. If that doesn't say something about the popular opinion about Portugal in our provinces, I don't know what will. Even one of our best commandos was a black person, google him.

I'm proud to have had my grandfather fight as a lieutenant in Angola and Mozambique.

youtube.com/watch?v=FOpqcUBzBXc

This is the shit that party chose as our PM

Estado Novo when?

We too have our colonial fighters. The British too.
General Mangin called it the "dark force".

France still continue this system of foreign fighters with the Foreign Legion.

I don't know but John Kerry (who works with America's foreign affairs), wife is actually from the Portuguese colony in Africa. Quite a few former colonists still around.

Check out this article as should everyone, at least look at the pictures.

The before and after independence of Mozambique and the effects on the most luxurious hotel built (by the Portuguese) in Africa at the time:

sometimes-interesting.com/2013/05/21/the-grande-hotel-of-beira-mozambique/

k lads we need to stop with the tan bullshit. Mediterraneans are white, and have darker skin, hair and eyes than other europeans. Just like in every other race, there are differences between groups that form the white race. Of course, there are people with a significant shitskin admixture in med countries, due to the proximity to the KANGZ. These are not white mediterraneans, just mixed race.

Don't fall for the
>Le brown eyes and tan not white xD
meme, it's good for bantz but some retards actually believe this shit.

Completely agree with you spanibro. We have enough cultural diversity, we don't need shitskins.

Reconquista when? We need to help our fellow Europeans.

welcome to europe
Seeing what Trump is doing in america and imagining how something similar could happen here makes me realize the true magnitude of our cuckedness

doesn't surprise me

some of us are one tone or two darker due to the fact that there we have roots of African ancestry, mainly on the capital/southern half
but it's not dark enough to call them non-white

>outdoors of Lisbon

Outskirts.

Arredores em inglês é outskirts.

portubros, did you learn spanish reading cereal boxes?
>cereais de pequeno almoco, flocos de trigo, bolachas
Truly educational

What?
Also you're forgetting the "ç"

most of my Spanish knowledge comes from Doraemon
the one that aired here during my childhood was the spanish dub

Ninja Hatori too

yeah didn't bother to find it
IDK about now but when I was growing up most cereal boxes came in both spanish and portuguese. Many kids would read the shit in portuguese to pass time, as it's so similar to spanish. So there'd be jokes about that.

We do the same but read english things in a portuguese tone

learned a bit watching cartoons