Who are the Democrats going to put up to run against Trump in 2020?

Who are the Democrats going to put up to run against Trump in 2020?

Do you really think Bernie will stand a chance in 2020?

A lot of Americans hate his ideas or feel they are unrealistic. Even though I'm behind him with all his ideas, I don't think people are ready for what he's proposing. $15 an hour will only hurt the economy. Business owners don't want to pay for single payer (most likely).

Who will run against Trump?

Hillary said she's out. Elizabeth Warren isn't the type to run for president. Who the fuck else is there going to be for Democrats to rally?

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My bet is on joe biden. He's really the only one that makes sense at the moment

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Who the fuck is.... oh that old guy that was Obama's vice pres? Really? The guy is like 100. And he's like everyone's grandpa. He's literally the comic relief of Obama's presidency. What did he ever do? Nothing! He just stood there and cracked jokes. He's not president material. Plus, he looks like a Republican, you know? The old white grandpa guy.

How was that edgy? It was asking a question.

I'd vote for a potted plant if it ran against Trump. I don't care who or what runs against him. I'm just plain voting against that clown.

>He knew what he signed up for.

>covfefe

>Grab em by the pussy

>covfefe

>He knew what he signed up for

>I love the poorly educated

>covfefe

>Big beautiful wall paid for by Mexico

>covfefe

>Big beautiful tax cuts

>I want to cover everyone (with health insurance)

>covfefe

>covfefe

>Fake news

>Fake news

>Wouldn't it be great if we had good relations with Russia?

>covfefe

goodluck

Seriously though... The past 9 months has been one shit story after another Over fucking NOTHING. Just fucking Trump on the news 24/7.

Literally, just bullshit. Trump tweeted this, Trump said that.

It's absolutely asinine.

its like every news channel suddenly turned into fox news

>implying there will be a 2020 election
>implying jared and the zionists won't impose semetic rule

Man...

I remember seeing that chart before he won the election and it said [You are here] where he wasn't president yet.

I even remember thinking... "That chart was a bad omen of what was to come."

bernie will fuck everyone up in 2020. bernie is the fucking best. I mean, those glasses could melt a heart of flames

Not sure if this is a serious post or sarcasm.

tempted to take the b8

And I guess you'd say that Trump is much more qualified for the job then?

qualifications for presidency;
1. 35 or over
2. born in the us

Could be anymore, is since trump as a 33% approval rating and failed to do all the good things he promised. Illegals are so small a problem. Corporations running America is the problem and look what trump did. I was excited for him to drain the swamp and he did the exact opposite. I hate Clinton, but what the fuck?

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> born in the us

*subject to waiver

>thinking a rich old white guy is going to "drain the swamp" and fuck over his rich old white guy friends
You're retarded, just like all the little Trumpets. It doesn't matter who the Dems run, unless they make the biggest fuck up on the planet they have the next election in the bag.

No one. Lefties are too retarded to run this country and won't get a candidate because everything and everyone is racist/homophobic/Islamophobic/misogynistic/cruel/capitalistic/unfair/offensive/etc.

This guarantees only a smart adult who doesn't give a shit about feelings and uses facts and logic will be elected in 2020. That man is currently the president.

>failed to do all the good things he promised
reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/63nxsn/update_i_was_tired_of_liberals_saying_trump_hasnt/

How does it feel being more ignorant than reddit?

>Trump
>smart
>adult
Pick one.
Statistics show trump was elected by the dumbest people in the country. You further prove that statistic.

> uses facts and logic
I get that you're retarded but damn thats another level of braindead.
Pretty sure Donnies brain got murdered in the Bowling Green Massacre.

how isnt he smart? guy acts like an idiot to change any narrative he wants

> r/The_Donald
Unbiased opinions of retards. Nice.
also
> reddit
Just go back you stupid faggot, nobody wants you here.

I think it will have to be an outsider and a fresh face. The DNC has done everything in its power to alienate supporters for the past couple years. It will take a lot to win people back. Bernie supporters, union members, white people, actual liberals instead of identity politics cucks have all been ignored and then insulted by the party. The outlook is pretty bleak too. They've lost all but a handful of governorships and are barely represented in most state legislatures.

There are signs they've been solidifying the power structure lately:
vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/tom-perez-dnc-shake-up

I suspect they will continue like this for a year or two to save resources. Then have media attention for fake house cleaning. Purging the failed officials and replace them with somebody with credibility. The donors and interests may be the same but it could work, then try to gain momentum with somebody young and hopeful.

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>acts
No he just openly lies about things. But the average trump voter does not even understand that.

They definitely have the chance of getting a lot of new voters. Former Conservatives have stopped saying they are supporting Republican, in the last year to not be thrown in with Trump supporters. Did not help that republicans try to kill healthcare and give tax cuts for wealthy people.

Trump promised to ban immigration from terror prone countries and end reliance on OPEC countries.

I found a pic of him in action.

that young red-headed Kennedy maybe?

You are just burying your head in the sand. You literally just disregarded a well sourced list of facts because it made you uncomfortable. Pause and reflect.

>acts
No, he is a fucking idiot. He claims to be such a great business man when the fact remains he could have made more money then he has now if he'd invested his "small loan" and did absolutely nothing.

well if his royal majesty would stop acting like a little troll baby and start acting like an adult president maybe the media would leave him alone.

yet hes president

Sometimes I give people too much credit. There really are people this stupid in this world.

Sorry, but if you are actually pretending to yourself that Trump 'hasn't done anything' or that he isn't on track to win 2020 in a landslide - an even bigger one than last time - you're officially retarded. You've had two years to figure this shit out. Two. Fucking. Years.

If you consider yourself politically active and you can't see what's going on, then find something else to do. You're wasting your own and everyone else's time. All of this pain. All self inflicted. It's going to be a long 7 1/2 years for you guys. So to answer your question: It's utterly irrelevant who runs for the democrat party. That party will be in shambles for at least the next decade. They lost every moderate, independent, and a significant chunk of the left of center. Mudshits are getting deported en masse so your illegal spic vote is being culled. Voter ID is going up in some states where fraud was uncovered (in Hillary's favor every time) so you won't be able to bus a shitton of illegals in who are ballsy enough to go vote anyways. The 1-2 million people who are dead yet mysteriously able to vote democrat are being wiped from the registration.

Apparently, people don't enjoy repulsive, decadent manchildren commies who throw violent tantrums. This was your one chance to finally subvert the country and destroy it and America prevailed. Your only two options are to step in line with traditional American values or let the Jews bring you down with them.

Pic related.

yet he has a giant tower with his name on it, had a reality show, been in movies, songs, shows, and is president of the united states

People are distancing themselves from the republican party to support trump. Probably realizing the republican party has long ago abandoned most conservative ideology. Accusations like republican in name only and grass roots movements to fund primary challenges are actually gaining momentum.

A lot of people hate obamacare. Personally I would've loved a single payer option or even a complete state system, what I got was a clusterfuck and a bill 5 times more expensive. Right now I am basically self insured because I can not afford my deductible. Yes the failure to repeal obamacare has distanced people from republicans but not toward the left.

Who would WANT Hillary to run?

As long as the Democrats allow a fair primary and have the people of the party select who they really want from whichever candidates want to run, I'm down with it. The last thing I want to see is another fiasco with them fucking the a popular candidate in favor of their establishment one.

And I want the nominee to get nominated because they are the best option. Not because of their race or gender.

If I see even an inkling of the bullshit I saw in 2016 I'll vote third party again.

Don't fool yourself, there will be a Clinton running in 2020. If it's not Hilary, then it's be her ugly daughter. Those people are like herpes.

You're a fucking retard. People aren't identifying as Republicans because they are identifying as Trump supporters. Trump supporters hate the GOP as much as they hate the DNC. The GOP even fought Trump and tried to sabotage him in the primaries.

It couldn't be anymore obvious Trump is the anti-establishment character but you play it off with your delusions that 'the GOP hates him because he;s stupid not because he's an actual threat to Big Gov at large' hurrrrrrrrrrrr

Who cares who the Democrats put up. They're going the way of the Whig Party and may fall off the debates at the rate they're going.
Barring anything stupid like wars of convenience between now and then, which is the usual way the system handles its people's demands for leftward economics, watch for a socialist candidate for 2020, possibly to the left of Sanders, and for the Democrats to nominate one of their neoliberal "food groups" like Harris. I'd still put better than even money on Trump winning a second term. However, Congress may look a bit different.

He is smart enough to understand that 80% of our country's intelligence resides in only 20% of the people. He understands there is a huge subset of idiots and willfully ignorant people that outnumbers reasoned and educated people, and he knows how to pander to them.

>As long as the Democrats allow a fair primary and have the people of the party select who they really want from whichever candidates want to run
kek, that's not what they're there for.

>He is smart enough to understand that 80% of our country's intelligence resides in only 20% of the people
>user actually believes this
Sure kid.

Only because the democrats chose the worst possible candidate against him.

The guy is just trolling to get a response. It is obvious in all his replies to every single comment that he is just acting edgy to get a rise out of people and doesn't understand the underlying issues from either a liberal or conservative perspective. Don't take people so seriously.

>democrat party. That party will be in shambles for at least the next decade
This is true. I'd like to reiterate my previous point about state governments. Most of the government in this country is run at the state level. In less than a decade the DNC went from about half representation to scarcely more than 10 governorships. State legislatures paint a bleaker picture. Most of the democratic voting power is focused on urban areas. To leverage this effectively requires some creative district lines to spread the population over as many districts as possible. With republicans controlling the 2020 redistricting that will not happen. Instead they will gerrymander it in their favor to isolate the cities.

Still being in shambles for 10 years might be unrealistically bleak. Personally I hope they collapse and a new party forms around legitimate liberalism. With a focus on individual rights and government services.

>Who would WANT Hillary to run?
Republicans, independents, anyone looking to draw voters away from the DNC establishment

Smartest post I've seen on all of Sup Forums.

Dr Dre, a "nigger" who put his name on some headphones is richer.

Would you vote for him to be president?

If the party isn't here to represent the will of a group of people, then you shouldn't vote for that party.

Our system is broken.

It doesn't matter who they put up. Papa T is taking the next election too so the democrats are free to waste their time, we already know who is going to win.

Her daughter is being groomed for power and influence of some kind but I don't think it will happen in 2020.
1) No experience, it'd take a few more years to throw together some credentials
2) Too soon, her name carries a taint worse than Jeb's did.

if the lefties would just get over the fact that he won and stop their temper tantrum things would quickly get back to normal

>Sup Forums

Bernie is an even bigger idiot than the one in the white house right now. Hillary is crooked and will increase racism in the entire country because of her lies and shit actions, just like Obama did.

How come you people only vote for morons. The smart people never make it past the preliminaries. Only the ones spouting the biggest garbage get made president.

Bernie, Trump and Hillary where the biggest garbage spewers of the last election, who will you vote for next?

You don't vote for people that offer actual solutions, you vote for people that spew the most propaganda and it sickens me.

The USA will buckle under the weight of retarded presidents for sure

Bernie is clearly the most qualified candidate who can actually do some good for the country. But the feminists will ignore him because he's a white man and republicans will ignore him because "hurr durr, communism".

Yep. At this point a toaster would make a better president.

Lol, you really think the scientists at silicon valley, who bring in most of USAs wealth, are the ones voting for Trump?

No but I respect his base cunning. Not just in marketing the headphones but in forming his own studio to produce music, removing the jewish control and keeping profits for himself.

Actually Bernie's ideas are incredibly popular among even Republicans, like single-payer. It's obvious that a fucked up bullshit jerry-rigged system like American health insurance is the least efficient way to deliver health care to people. And people who wanted to supplement or just go through a private system still could.

We'd have to retrain the people that work in the industry but it's important in general to reduce FIRE as a % of GDP (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate) since it's mostly paper-shuffling.

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Just because statistic shows most trump supporters to be old, uneducated rascicts does not mean there is not one crazy scientist who voted trump to see chaos and corruption brought to new levels.

Bernie has a fantastic voting record and has done his best to champion the people over the parties. I know you're just trolling but he's the most qualified candidate that's run in decades.

Finally. Spidey, what took you so long you old nigger?

>increase racism in the entire country because of her lies and shit actions, just like Obama did.

Wtf are you talking about?

Obama is listed among the top 20 presidents of all time. Look it up.

he's an old meme, give him time

>If the party isn't here to represent the will of a group of people, then you shouldn't vote for that party.
They do represent that will, the same way as a corporation represents a person.
>The system is broken.
It's broken as designed. You should grab some coffee/mountain dew and read the Federalist Papers. The whole US system was designed expressly to preserve the rights of property over the will of the people.
Direct democracy has never sounded better or more feasible.

>Bernie is an even bigger idiot
>t.someone who imagines that the entire US is made up of clones of himself with identical preferences, and should be

2/8 scientists, literally kek

The problem is in the power structure of the left. If they keep attacking him on all grounds and hope he screws up they can avoid reforming their positions. Sure they could back away from identity politics, actually move to regulate wallstreet, appeal to bernie supporters but doing so would cost them their largest contributors. This is an all or nothing strategy to avoid losing funding. This is also how the party got to be nothing more than interventialist neocons + identity issues.

I'd probably vote for him given current options. That being said:
1) He was too old in 2016 when he was four years younger
2) He alienated a lot of people when he bent the knee to hillary
3) Some of his stances on race and economics are pretty backwards. In reality it wouldn't damage policy and congress would force him to arrive at a more moderate compromise, but it is the sort of thing that scares voters.

I understand how it was built. Unfortunately the people with the money have become a severe impairment to the preservation of our species.

Hey OP how does it feel that we're having a serious discussion around you like you don't exist?

Why couldnt conservatives do this for Obama?

>Actually Bernie's ideas are incredibly popular among even Republicans, like single-payer
- Also his isolationist tendencies. Opposed most of the recent wars.
- He is also more protectionist than trump. Republicans hated the TPP especially.

Voting with one's feet might be an option, if working toward replacing the senile system isn't.

Yeah and he also won the nobel peace prize!

>Who are the Democrats going to put up to run against Trump in 2020?
Doesn't matter

Kasich has already stated he will change parties and run.

>The guy is just trolling to get a response.
No actually I'm not trolling. And I had not replied to anyone's posts. That was my only one. Here's the thing: Nothing I said was wrong and you even agreed with it yet still called it wrong? Do you really think I can't walk you through it all and rub your face in reality? You think there are not endless examples from the last 9 months to vindicate my position?

Seriously, if you haven't figured this shit out, re: You haven't read a single leak, you failed Econ 101, you don't know fuck all about history, and you don't understand what happened during the Arab Spring (Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Syria) and what actors were involved and how, and the resulting refugee crisis and it's effect on the EU - then drop politics. You aren't paying attention and you aren't taking this seriously, ergo no one will take you seriously. You should have at least figured out by now that being smug =/= being smart, as well as you can't ignore reality no matter how hard you try.

They did. Lots of things were forced through. Obamacare, three multi-billion dollar nsa facilities, ignoring his numerous scandals. Granted the first two also had a huge lobby behind them.

Top 20 out of 45... Yeah, I'd believe that.

While dropping the most bombs in the middle east...

The best part is if only 54% or so of ordinary people backed a third, independent party, then the rampant cheating required to get one of the establishment parties to win instead would make it quite obvious what sort of country we live in.

But with billions being spent on misleading information and promoting identity politics of course it will never happen.

The guy you were replying to was a troll. For fuck sake I was telling you not to take people too seriously. And here you went off on me for two paragraphs like you are constantly walking around with a chip on your shoulder about this.

the media cherry picks and blows things out of proportions, yet they never seem to care about real world problems.

Like the fact that South Africa is going insane with it's anti white rhetoric.
Libya was a great nation before the american funded Arab Spring, now it is a shithole where slaves (children and woman) are sold. There is still a civel war going on over there. But at least kadhafi is death...

Or the fact that Obama wanted to fund terrorists with $221 million the day just before he left the office?

Obama increased racism by not denouncing BLM. BLM was a organisation that feeds on racism and brings violence where ever it goes. Obama should have denounced it, and shown the numbers proving that there is no witch hunt against black people.
Statistically more white people get shot by the police than black people. But the core problem was that the American police force has way to many cowboys in it that think that they are the law.


He believes to much in communism, something that has failed over and over. He has no grasp of how delicate the american economy really is, just plainly taxing the rich more will result in less taxes.
And he has no backbone, something that is crucial in dealing with other political leaders.

>The guy you were replying to was a troll.
I had not replied to anyone unless you are talking about OP. In which case I'm sure he is, still wrote it for exposure because I had a free moment and others will see it. Literally took like 20 seconds bro

> He alienated a lot of people when he bent the knee to hillary

But supporting Hillary was the only option you fucking retard. Would you rather have Trump?

Yea, I can tell you are trolling or misinformed by the "believes too much in communism" part.

Jesus christ man. The worst part is the rest of your post was actually reasonable. Maybe do some real research on the man instead of lapping up what the news told you.

I would prefer Satan himself to that bitch Hillary. She is just such a cunt that no matter who they put against her she was going to lose.

What are you talking about. I'm still here and it was a serious question.

>Libya was a great nation before the american funded Arab Spring
I don't know about great but it was stable functional. People weren't starving or dying in large numbers. It wasn't being used to funnel millions of africans to europe. Certainly it was more economically prosperous than it is now. But damned if I'm going to call an african country great.

>vote for one of the greatest business men to grace god's green earth who vowed to dismantle the totalitarian establishment and is currently doing a good job
>vote for the 40 year failure whose career was riddled with crimes, cover ups, murders, corruption, drug/human trafficking, weapons trafficking, terror financing who would have expanded on the establishments power while owning all of the multi-billion dollar mega media conglomerates so she has a total monopoly of the distribution of information which covers her crimes up

It's an obvious choice you utter mongrel.

>vote for one of the greatest business men
Holy fuck do people seriously think Trump is a good businessman, yet alone 'one of the greatest'? I'm not sure whether to laugh or be worried

actually what he said was sound and obvious and if it didn't resonate with you, you're the misinformed or delusional one.

He had several options but only one good one. He'd only been a democrat for a couple years, did not share a lot of their ideology, and couldn't count on their political support going forward. He could have merely kept silent and bowed out. It is not unprecedented and would have saved face if he had any future plans.

> vote for a businessman who has only been successful thanks to his inheritance, who has only made the establishment more corrupt than before, and who is doing such a bad job it absolutely defies comprehension how he's even polling at 30% favorability

> implying either of those two people ever deserved to be president

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>But supporting Hillary was the only option you fucking retard
3/8 high-quality emulation of stupid

>It wasn't being used to funnel millions of africans to europe
That was the problem, you know. Libya was approaching first-world levels of human development. Gadhafi was getting ready to screw the bankers with a pan-African gold-backed currency and selling his oil in something not the dollar. Of course, this is simply embarrassing to the credibility of the petrodollar or Western economics, culture, and civilization overall, so of course it had to be destroyed.

1/8 made me reply

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