Who would win?

who would win?

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masterchief would literally kill all spacemarines

What's the difference between killing them all and literally killing them all?

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Are you retarded? This is totally out of question...

Master Chief has a bit of an advantage defensively with his shields. However a standard load out of each, Master Chief lacks a weapon to really do any damage to a Space Marine while the Marine's standard bolter would fuck up Master Chief in one shot. My money is on Space Marine.

Would depend on where and what weapons they have.

The space marine would absolutely trounce the everloving fuck out of the spartan.

>Guy that can 360 no-scope from 1km away.
>guys that regularly get killed by retards using axes made from scrap metal.
sure bud.

energy sword, plasma weapons, rocket launcher would do the trick?

The one in the armour wins.

>Space Marine vs. Spartan

Now, taking into the idea that this is a standard Tactical Marine vs. the Standard Spartan... Well, I'd have to give it to the Space Marine.

The boltgun is a 19.05mm RA/APHE personal weapon system and the counterpart has an automatic rifle using 7.62 NATO AP almost exactly like what we're using today. Even against an unarmored Astartes, 7.62 is going to have problems due to their armored ribcage and redundant organ systems.

Against a Spartan, though... Well, their biofoam only "fills" in damage. They have no healing capabilities like Astartes do.

The edge the Spartan has is in reaction time and in energy shields. There is the possibility of victory for the Spartan, but the Astartes is an older veteran. The Astartes has the largest chance of winning any given action, though there is always variables to take into account.

Jesus fuck warhammer is lame

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Gaius Marcellus jumped out of the smoking drop pod, scanning the environment, bolter at the ready. He did not know the enemy he would be facing this day, only that this was a test to see how well the emperors finest would measure up against this new threat. Tactical display detected an explosion several hundred meters out, some sort of primitively plasma ordinance, and then Gaius caught the first glimpse of his prey. A small figure in a thin armored suit was arching from one canyon to a vantage point, boots still reeking blue plasma fire from the explosive jump that propelled him into the air. What a strange combat doctrine. Gaius would have to report this oddity to his chapter as soon as he returned. This wasn't something he had ever seen on the field in all his centuries of fighting.

As Gaius began to advance, a round struck him in harmlessly. Certainly this enemy was a good shot, but the munition it used seemed to be almost comically harmless. Not even the guardsmen would have touched such inferior ordinance, and they were renowned for making use of just about any weapon they could get their hands on. Gaius kept advancing, round after round rickocheting off his paulders and helm. A small blue flame appeared and Gaius predicted the foe was about to make another One of those strange tactical manouvers. Raising his bolter, Gaius let off a few shots and recorded the result in stunned silence. The first round seemed to meet some kind of resistance. A shielding system sprang up to guard the enemy against the devastating round that nearly sent the figure flying, but the second round struck true. Apparently a single shot was enough to deplete the shield, and the remains of the burst turned the enemy into a fine red mist. Gaius lowered his weapon, perplexed and a little apprehensive. Perhaps he should have taken his time and studied his enemy to get a better measure of it. What he learned here today might have been of some value to his chapter. But then, he wondered if anything of value could have been gleamed from a foe with such inferior armaments...

nope.
ceramite is heat-resistent so energy-swords / plasma weapons are ineffective.

rocket-launchers (as displayed in Halo) are just too weak to penetrate mk 8 Space Marine Armour. At best they would throw a marine off balance, but if the spartan tries any shenanigans in close combat (like jumping on the tipped over marine), he would have the please to meet wh40k's most iconic weapon: ceramite chainswords.
These things would rip through a warthog as it were butter.

>360 no scope

space marines have no chance against spartans they are much more faster and better trained

Dumb question. Master chief is a space marine of the UNSC. The Spartans were just a top secret unit within the UNSC think of it as as the Special Forces of the Marines with genetic augmentation and kidnapping.

I thought according to the warhammer lore. Plasma weapons are the most effective weapons for rekting spacemarines

>Better trained
Fucking what? I loved halo and the lore, but how the fuck does a spartan have better training than a space marine?

masterchief is simply faster than sluggish marine... a handful of spartans pretty much decimated a galactical empire. what did the spaceboys even do? nothing... they cant even beat the tau with their massive armies

>faster
I might give you that (given that space marines are roughly double the size of a spartan, therefore what appears to be sluggish movement in fact equals speeds putting any sprinter to shame), but training-expirience!?

m8, a space marine is a surgically and genetically enhanced human, recruited from societies that have to live in the most deadly environments the galaxy has to offer.
Once a recruit ascends to become a space-marine, he will serve for thousands of years, some individuals reportedly even being older than the horus heresy (+10k years) in which they have done nothing but to fight traitor.marines, demons, eldar (technologically superior space elves), orks (WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH), necrons (basically skynet. Just edgier), and tyranids (think ripley's alien. Now multiply with 1 billion. They rain from orbit, blackening the sky in the process).

Spartans are out-gunned (even by a guardsman standard), out-performed, and out-numbered.

nope.
The most effective means to kill a space-marine is to call him heretic in the vicinity of the adeptus sororitas.

aren't they out-gunned, out-performed and out-numbered by the covies? still owned them tho

a space marine but that's not a fair fight in terms of tech level, also maybe depends on if the space marine in question is a bitch or not, also if anything space marines would respect master chief as a sort of early pioneer of space marine-ness and probably talk about his accomplishments over some imperial MREs

Neither, they’d end up sucking each other’s dicks because they’re both faggots.

Space marines are not sluggish. They may appear so, but that's because they are the size of a fucking tractor. I'll still give you that a spartan may be faster, but it's not going to tip the scales in their favor much.

the covenant roughly equals the tau in military strenght.
after the taus main fleets was crushed by a mere scouting force of the imperium, they resorted to avoid direct conflict at any cost and try to flip imperial worlds slowly via subversion.
The imperium of man would not even record the minuscule amount of ordinance needed to rid the galaxy from their presence, if they ever deem that as a considerable threat.

doomguy

covenant has the whole galaxy at their disposal

that's news for me.
last time I checked, they consist of a few habitable worlds, united in a religious cause.
the imperium owns several million worlds, with trillions, if not quadrillions of citizens.

This is the most common 40k question asked here.
The Space Marine is faster, stronger, tougher, and more skilled by orders of magnitude.
The marine is going to enter this fight by sprinting at some (depending on source) 60-90 MPH (dodging bullets/ slapping them away from his eyes) and punching Chief in the face.
Seeing as a marine can lift several tons (3.4 in deathwatch for a starting character, and books have marines lifting 7 tons with ease)) without any issues. that punch will be fatal.
Edit-if you take the high end for movement speed, you can make a deathwatch marine capable of hitting 300mph, or one capable of juggling 10 ton objects (but that's with game mechanics, and shenanigans)

No, their armor is LITERALLY rated for plasma blasts.

IT's like taking a musket to a gunfight when everyone has .458 socom ARs around you and saying "well, I thought bullets were the main weakness"

Plasma discharges in 40k are tens of times greater in energy content, and it still doesn't kill the muhreen for sure.

Nice

Space marines have a few decades if not centuries of veterancy, physical augmentation to the point of backup organs and natural armour, sheer size and strength all without their armour. Spartan shields faltered under conventional firearms, and hand to hand with the bigger covies had a tendency to go badly for them.

This is why no one likes you, user.

how big is a space marine?

Samus can easily wreck Masterchief, and a Space Marine is way stronger than bestgirl, so, my money is on the Space Marine

8 to 10 foot

>No, their armor is LITERALLY rated for plasma blasts.
Which means plasma penetrates their armour without saves.
In fact, plasma also penetrates terminator armour.

technically speaking tau wont kill space marines.... cos literally theyre immortal...

uhmm no get out warcuckmmer

how wide?

Doesn't matter, chief is cooler so he's the better character. And Spartans are all around cooler than warhammer 40virgin.

fatmarines cannot run fast

>if anything space marines would respect master chief as a sort of early pioneer of space marine-ness and probably talk about his accomplishments over some imperial MREs
Nah, the imperium isn't exactly friendly to humans that aren't part of their gang.

Well... spartans from the Halo universe are atleast a wee bit realistic in that we might have something close to that in a couple of thousand years. (except them being able to survive falling from space onto a planet with earth-ish gravity).

Space Marines are just... stupid. It's just some sort of neverending powertrip along the lines of Dragon Ball. Nothing close to space marines will ever come to be real.

So yes, a space marine would win. This is just retarded.

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this is what this gun does to normal target:
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A space marine would die by just walking into a fucking door,weakest faggots in the entire universe.

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They can fly, retard.

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a spartan would easily beat a space marine
space marines are slow and useless

That's beside the point, you said their armour is "rated for" plasma blasts, when in fact that means their armour is completely ineffective against such weapons.
I don't disagree that Halo plasma and 40k plasma are different in terms of power and penetration, but your argument that SM armour is "rated for" plasma weapons doesn't demonstrate that, it just shows that sufficiently energetic plasma will penetrate SM armour.

This guy gets it.

>when in fact that means their armour is completely ineffective against such weapons.
it means the direct opposite.

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jetpacks doesnt make them fly.... spartans have jetpacks too

>slow
Source or stop making shit up.

jetppacks. Lol.
Spacemarines strap fucking rocket engines on their back.

Orks even strap actual rockets, complete with warhead, on their backs.

Astartes have the better augmentations by far, more powerful weapons, better armor, and sometimes centuries more experience. But depending on the chapter, they could have shittier common sense or tactics than Spartans. In general, there's a pretty big difference in scale between the two and what they're meant to fight.

Adding 'literally' to a sentence does give it more oomph in a sense so I guess the second one means killing them harder? Like maybe an extra bullet for each space marine.

its a shit comparison one is 500 years in the future the other is 40 thousand years in the future thats like comparing us to apes throwing stones just pointless

Aww look, it's a child who can't spell correctly!

Well to be honest that's pretty much how the colonization of Africa went.

I'll just leave this here

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TL:DR Space marine, no questions asked

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I will going for Space Marines on this one. Spartans are great soldiers, well trained and they have a lot weapons, reaction speed, acrobatics and stuffs, but a Space Marine have all of these and much more. From a defensive point of view, the MJOLNIR armor suit give less protection than a Space Marine Power Armour. Energy Shields can be great, but when they depleted, is over, man. Power Armour ablative system work better in most situations. Offensively, Spartans work better in long/medium ranges than close combat, Space Marines is a jack of all trades. Chainswords, Bolt Riffles, granades and some more exotic stuffs and so.

The problem here is the false perception about Space Marines: They look like medieval knights: slow, clumsy but well armed, and that is a mistake. Space Marines and their armour suits are pretty fast, adaptive, strong and durable. Their helmets have a array of sensors and their suits move and the same speed of the wearer. And remember, the owner is a genetically improved and well trained elite soldier.

Space marine terminators gets regularily beaten by a 5$ (40k years of inflation accounted for) t'au sniper drone. By a squadful. Spartan with a sniper rifle would do just fine.

Ra-Ra-Russian queen...

Nopes. T'au snipers are far beyond any regular sniper rifle in Halo universe. Fuck, almost any weapon in halo universe looks like toys against Warhammer 40K weapons. In Halo you need a behemot ring to blow a planet, Exterminatus can be executed with a single Cyclonic Torpedo

> In Halo you need a behemot ring to blow a planet, Exterminatus can be executed with a single Cyclonic Torpedo

Considering this fact alone, how about forerunner tech against wh40k?
is the halo lore even sufficient enough to make this comparrison?

For all I know, they build mega-structures just as the eldar do (craftworlds), so I think they would be technologically kinda even to them.

But 1'o'1 combat wise, no idea.

I'm a much bigger fan of Master Chief, but the space marines are simply made to be way too OP.

>comparing tabletop to fluff

Clone Troopers

You have a point, bro, but, talking about the official lore, Warhammer 40K tech is almost in the same league than the Forerunners. I'm not saying "Halo is worst", nop. Halo tech and the Forerunners are pretty fucking good, but The Imperium (Although one is in declivity) have similar and better achievements in some crucial areas. They have more than 30000 years of experience

eh, I'd say they have 10k years of experience with salvaging the remains of a kardashev t1 civ.
Age of Strife, a.s.o.

So are Spacemarines like the global mary sue of science fiction?

yes.
the only option a spartan would have is to play guerilla and lay explsoive traps, strongf enough to level entire building-blocks.
That MIGHT kill the mahreen.

Then again, they auspex systems, and cybernetically increased smell / taste / hearing / eyesight makes this a possibly, but extremely hard task.
Also, every regular human would have the same chances to succeed with that.

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Far beyond of that. Not the Space Marines or Spartans are flawless or perfect heroes. Spartans goes trough a lot of experimentation and stressful situations. Space Marines suffer similar treatments and lived only to die in the name of the Emperor and The Imperium, They sound cool, but their respective lives are fucked to the maximum.

That is from a fluff source. I'd be damned if a single sniper drone with it's puny ap0 would ever take out 5 terminators.

This lmao

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