America needs to apologize for Hiroshima and Nagasaki [GENERAL - VI]

Hiroshima was a war crime.
Nagasaki was a war crime.

The United States of America, the supposed "eternal good guy", the "infallible nation" intentionally committed these criminal acts and as such the representatives of the country today are responsible for apologizing on behalf of the American people for these past atrocities .

This isn't ancient history, the last crew member of Enola Gay only died 2 years ago and the wounds are still fresh with after effects such as cancer still excessively affecting those in the area and descendants of the victims.

Innocent civilians who had NO part in any other atrocity or war crime committed by the ARMIES of Japan such as Unit 731 were the casualties. Japans war crimes do not absolve you of committing your own, you are just as guilty if not more so.

>The target was military, not our fault they built houses around them.

WRONG! The military and industrial targets in Hiroshima were outside the target zone and blast zone which was the city center of a CIVILIAN population center. You can't fucking justify that so don't bother and just apologize.

>Token remark to stop thread being derailed

ALL major powers in WW2 committed atrocities and war crimes such as the bombing of Dresden and the rape of Berlin and they should also be apologized for but that is not the subject of this thread so please don't feel the need to deflect to them or call me a hypocrite.

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Last thread.

What is Nanking?

How does one war crime committed by an ARMY justify another war crime against INNOCENT CIVILIANS who were not involved with that war crime?

At least they give us anime because of it

Thanks american cunts

>You must apologize six hiroshima.
>Can't into Roman numerals
>British education

So. Tell me why it's never japs that start threads like this.

Fuck off Muhammed. Japan got exactly what it deserved.

>apologise
>nothing changes
>don't apologise
>nothing changes

Why is this an issue again?

Destroying native culture is something to celebrate

>Not knowing this is the 6th Hiroshima general

The US did what was needed to win the war. Remember, the Japanease got the first hit, starting the war. Germany had already fallen, it would have taken years and millions of lives to wrap up the pacific theatre.

>apologize for war crimes
Nah, fuck off cunt. 2 bombs wasn't enough.

pic related

No.

Ahahaha, Just noticed.

Fucking idiot.


Also.If they apologize for Nanking, then it's fair game.

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/obama-japan-hiroshima-interview-no-apology

America has been apart of war crimes before the phrase was even invented. We were grandfathered in so now we are exempt, don't you keep up with politics?

America will never apologize until it itself knows the pain of nuclear war.

Japan must develop nuclear weapons and stand with China against the Anglo threat.

Maybe because they are on their own image board? Maybe because the only people with red sun flags posting here are American soldiers stationed on Okinawa taking a break from raping locals to shitpost?

That isn't true.

SHALL

>thinking we're going to apologize

SAGE

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any "apology" threads made by this obnoxious britcuck

Same picture as yesterday Mohammed.
78% of survivors don't want an apology.

Please apologize to India.

Why would we apologize for saving lives?

>implying you can make the winner admit any wrongdoing
unfortunately it doesn't work that way because might = right

What are you gonna do about, you snaggletoothed limey?

That is probably because you are so self-absorbed that you can't put yourself in anyone else's position. I would at least hope that you would be educated enough to see that what you did fits within the definition of a war crime and as such should be apologized for.

We will never apologize, and the government of Japan said not to apologize.

Fuck your dumb threads faggot.

hello greatest ally I love your weeb apaches

>t. American rapist on Okinawa

Maybe that is because you brainwashed and suppressed them after you occupied them and forcefully instilled your own culture and ideals on them.

> innocent civilians
> what is total war

>tfw the 3rd Sino-Japanese war will be USA+Japan vs. China

Gonna fuck those bamboo coons up.

Fuck off Muhammad

>what you did
>literally the sins of the father

So he was the one who pushed the button?

Fucking faggy limeys man...

>Still trying to justify WAR CRIMES
I would think after 6 threads you wouldn't be such a fucking retard.

Speaking of forcefully instilling ideals...

No.

They were war crimes. Add them to the long list of US atrocities they will never apologise for.

>were not involved with that war crime?
did they pay their taxes and stand idle?
then they are complicit. and I'm pretty sure their stock market rallied after nanking, though I only read that in a manga.

>Destroying native culture is something to celebrate
nothing was destroyed they still pursue their craft and an autistic like dedication.
and since the black ships western influence came front and center, why do you think they caught up so fast and had imperialistic ambitions.

you don't under stand war then. people die indiscriminately. Didn't WW1 teach you anything?
and deresden

Nations responsibilities exceed the generational lifespan, stopping being willfully ignorant of the reality of how the world works. The current government is responsible for making amends for the reprehensible actions of the past governments within reason (not going back thousands of years), Hiroshima was less than 100 years ago, there are still living witnesses.

>During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations.

>Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans.

Apologize

Also, reminder that your precious anime wouldn't exist if it weren't for Hiroshima and Nagasaki but ofc, you blame da j00s.

>one war crime committed by an ARMY
Against civilians. Funny you left that out.
Also, more people would have died from a land invasion, on both sides, including civilians. Japan didn't even surrender after the first nuke, you think a land invasion would have been different?
>What is Bushido
Also, firebombing was arguably as bad, if not worse. The only reason you care is because "nukes = scary ebil devil weapons".

kek, Based Nippon with the bantz

great argument fagtron, really convinced us with your hot opinions

>When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers.

>The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes.

>Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you.

Apologize

No.

>did they pay their taxes and stand idle?
then they are complicit.

>Literally the same logic used by jihadists

9/11 was justified by your logic then you fucking mongoloid.

>start a fight against a bigger opponent
>demand he apologises to you after you lose the fight

>Let's set off a nuke on the anniversary of being bombed!
>Let's have a war every Memorial Day!

Fuck the left has retarded logic.

I long for the day when UK shitposters are disregarded as quickly as Candians

> War Crime

when will this meme end?

fuck off britain if you want us to apologize again so bad make us.

Oh wait, you're just a tiny island full of cucks who can't stop apologizing to muslims when they rape and murder you. It's offensive that you'd tell anybody else they need to apologize when you yourself have such a poor understanding of an appropriate time for apologies.

>In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch.

>After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence.

>Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings.

Apologize

>It's a "cucks being offended on behalf of nonwhites who don't give a shit" episode

Those should be apologized for, I actually made a thread about Jallianwala a few weeks ago.

>over the course of a single lunch

Wonder if he had curry?

>Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government.

>Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault.

>Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died.

Apologize

>9/11 was justified by your logic then you fucking mongoloid.
Turn that around and we need to push back against Muslim insurgence.
because they muslim community sure isn't helping us..

fucking sore fingas claiming discrimination is disgusting

fucking bookworm pieces of shit trying to get a slice of the victim pie

If the OP had control of the world, he would force America to give a fake heartfelt apology by withdrawing its military personal, but not before utilizing them to forcefully send syrian and north african mudsubhumans in the millions to establish the sino-caliphate; the only way to unite the world under the light of Islam.

Most of the people protesting weren't even Japanese.

>Wonder if he had curry?

kek

I am agreeing with you... Its your nation's posters here that by and large don't support the need to apologize for their war crimes.

remember to sage and ignore. reported for spam

>not american or japanese
opinion discarded.

It's also idiotic for a country who has 1% of their population that was alive that were even adults and able to vote in 1945 to apologize to another country for bombing them during a war, especially when the bombed country still spends millions a year to travel to hawaii and gloat about how the bombed pearl harbor.

>Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India.

>In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal.

>Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”

Apologize

>Japan blows up pearl harbor for no reason
>Is in leagues with a genocidal xenophobic mass murderer
>Gets btfo
>Cognitively dissonant autists demand an apology from Obama to Japan for something he had no control of.
>Mkay

Japan started it first by killing innocent sailors. America blowing up Nagasaki ended the war and saved several millions of more lives. What's there to apologize for.

What will apologizing do exactly?

Here is a basic rundown of things that transpired:
>Allies made a deal with the Soviets to attack Japan 3(?) months after Germany's defeat
>Cold war was already inevitable but the deal still stood
>Japan was on the verge of defeat having no navy, a lingering airforce, and over a million men stranded abroad
>Yet they refused to surrender
>Deadline for Soviet invasion was nearing and the US feared that the Soviets would use this opportunity to seize parts of Japan like they did in Europe
>US decided to end the war before that by nuking Japan into surrender
>Soviets instead attacked Manchuria and conquered the Kuril islands, thus officially defeating Japan anyway
>The US wanted to avoid an uproar and made a bullshit claim about "muh 6 godillion dead if we invaded" (preposterous seeing that Japan was on the brink of defeat and would be swiftly overrun by two superpowers)
>The end

I think it was the right decision. One of the few things the US did right in fact. If this does not satisfy you, i would like to hear your explanation for why not.

I bet without the bombing we wouldn't have gyaru so it's justified.

also American factories rebuilt japan and so much was needlessly spent on foreign aid.
You're welcome.

>saved several millions of more lives
when you balance that against the result of Communism we should have sacrificed those lives and engaged the soviets.

I'm still waiting for Japan to apologize for the Nanking Massacre.

>I am agreeing with you... Its your nation's posters here that by and large don't support the need to apologize for their war crimes.

Great Britian has committed so many atrocities that the actions of the US pale in comparison to several centuries of wanton imperialism and genocide. If you were truly sorry for the actions of your country you would have committed suicide or be actively involved in the downfall of the UK instead of posting on Sup Forums you hypocritical piece of shit.

>>Is in leagues with a genocidal xenophobic mass murderer

We didn't help though. Japan sheltered Jews.

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Which is the bad thing?

>America blowing up Nagasaki ended the war

Russia declared war the same day, it was a variety of factors.

Pic related.

OP's probably an alt-righter in all seriousness. He's just an America hating weeaboo who isn't aware without the bomb, he wouldn't have his grorious anime.

Fuck the gooks, they had it coming.
Japan started it, the US finished it.

Let this be an example to everyone, this is what happens when you try to invade Australia

>If you were truly sorry for the actions of your country you would have committed suicide or be actively involved in the downfall of the UK

You don't know if he's a UK politician or not, be nice.

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>Invading an island nation with tens of millions of fanatical soldiers and armed civilians ready to fight and die in a suicidal guerilla campaign run by a military dictatorship with nothing to lose who know exactly where and when you're coming and are willing and able to use chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction
There's no bullshit about it. Downfall would have killed millions.
Just prolonging the war another year would see Japan starving.

kek

hellz ya!

did they even ask for an apology

fuck off dude

Whaddayagonnado if they don't apologize, Hakim, bitch about it on a Tibetian jade sculpting forum

Communism didn't kill as many people as Hitler would've had if the bomb didnt explode

these are prolly kebab limeys, user

>Russia declared war the same day, it was a variety of factors.

Russia's naval capabilities at the time were pathetic and they had zero experience in amphibious warfare while the US military had been doing it since day one.

Imo the Russian war dec signaled to the Japanese that the European conflict was over and they had 0 external support.

>Japan blows up pearl harbor for no reason

Yeah, not like you intentionally forced them into a corner through sanctions and embargoes because you wanted an excuse to enter the war or anything...

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No. 78% of survivors don't want one.

Japan had armies in China, Manchuria, and Korea too. And they knew it was coming, Russia promised to declare war 90 days after VE Day.

I completely agree OP, the US should have a done a land invasion, massacred the entire population of the country and annexed it.

Maybe there would be less degenerate drawings around these parts if Japan was the 49th state of the US.

Sucker punching another country warrants a spirit bomb desu

Only relevant argument here, nothing else to see.

I'm gonna fuck ur ass so hard it's gonna be a war crime you Lil bitch

ENGLAND FUCK. OFF. YOU SINGLE HANDED COMMITTED MORE WAR CRIMES THEN THE REST OF US COMBINED

>muh war crimes
There is no such thing you fucking retard. A crime is something that can only exist within a limited society with definite laws: outside of it, there is no right or wrong. War is war and Japan apparently got what it deserved.

99 more days, how are those Olympic preparations coming?

Why should I apologize for something I didn't do?

Why should I apologize for something no one is asking for?
Last time I heard the Nippons moved on, and actually like the West.

If they moved on why don't you? If they don't care why should you?

The production and use of chemical weapons was strictly prohibited by the 1899 Hague Declaration Concerning Asphyxiating Gases and the 1907 Hague Convention on Land Warfare, which explicitly forbade the use of "poison or poisoned weapons" in warfare.

Even so, the United Kingdom used a range of poison gases, originally chlorine and later phosgene, diphosgene and mustard gas. They also used relatively small amounts of the irritant gases chloromethyl chloroformate, chloropicrin, bromacetone and ethyl iodoacetate. Gases were frequently mixed, for example white star was the name given to a mixture of equal volumes of chlorine and phosgene, the chlorine helping to spread the denser but more toxic phosgene. Despite the technical developments, chemical weapons suffered from diminishing effectiveness as the war progressed because of the protective equipment and training which the use engendered on both sides. By 1918, a quarter of British artillery shells were filled with gas and the United Kingdom had produced around 25,400 tons of toxic chemicals.

The British Expeditionary Force first used chemical weapons along the Western Front at the Battle of Loos on 25 September 1915 and continued their usage for the remainder of the war.

The US has never deployed chemical weapons. Apologize you hypocritical piece of shit

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No such thing as a war crime.