Hiroshima was a war crime. Nagasaki was a war crime.
The United States of America, the supposed "eternal good guy", the "infallible nation" intentionally committed these criminal acts and as such the representatives of the country today are responsible for apologizing on behalf of the American people for these past atrocities .
This isn't ancient history, the last crew member of Enola Gay only died 2 years ago and the wounds are still fresh with after effects such as cancer still excessively affecting those in the area and descendants of the victims.
Innocent civilians who had NO part in any other atrocity or war crime committed by the ARMIES of Japan such as Unit 731 were the casualties. Japans war crimes do not absolve you of committing your own, you are just as guilty if not more so.
>The target was military, not our fault they built houses around them.
WRONG! The military and industrial targets in Hiroshima were outside the target zone and blast zone which was the city center of a CIVILIAN population center. You can't fucking justify that so don't bother and just apologize.
>Token remark to stop thread being derailed
ALL major powers in WW2 committed atrocities and war crimes such as the bombing of Dresden and the rape of Berlin and they should also be apologized for but that is not the subject of this thread so please don't feel the need to deflect to them or call me a hypocrite.
Destroying native culture is something to celebrate
>Not knowing this is the 6th Hiroshima general
James Baker
The US did what was needed to win the war. Remember, the Japanease got the first hit, starting the war. Germany had already fallen, it would have taken years and millions of lives to wrap up the pacific theatre.
Tyler Moore
>apologize for war crimes Nah, fuck off cunt. 2 bombs wasn't enough.
Ethan Anderson
pic related
Hunter Reed
No.
Wyatt Sanchez
Ahahaha, Just noticed.
Fucking idiot.
Also.If they apologize for Nanking, then it's fair game.
America has been apart of war crimes before the phrase was even invented. We were grandfathered in so now we are exempt, don't you keep up with politics?
Evan Hughes
America will never apologize until it itself knows the pain of nuclear war.
Japan must develop nuclear weapons and stand with China against the Anglo threat.
Nolan Thompson
Maybe because they are on their own image board? Maybe because the only people with red sun flags posting here are American soldiers stationed on Okinawa taking a break from raping locals to shitpost?
That isn't true.
Aiden Bailey
SHALL
Brayden Diaz
>thinking we're going to apologize
Dominic Ross
SAGE
REPORT
HIDE
any "apology" threads made by this obnoxious britcuck
Brayden Scott
Same picture as yesterday Mohammed. 78% of survivors don't want an apology.
Please apologize to India.
Brandon Cruz
Why would we apologize for saving lives?
Dylan Clark
>implying you can make the winner admit any wrongdoing unfortunately it doesn't work that way because might = right
Cameron Hill
What are you gonna do about, you snaggletoothed limey?
Caleb Wood
That is probably because you are so self-absorbed that you can't put yourself in anyone else's position. I would at least hope that you would be educated enough to see that what you did fits within the definition of a war crime and as such should be apologized for.
Evan Hill
We will never apologize, and the government of Japan said not to apologize.
Fuck your dumb threads faggot.
Xavier White
hello greatest ally I love your weeb apaches
Jace Reed
>t. American rapist on Okinawa
Maybe that is because you brainwashed and suppressed them after you occupied them and forcefully instilled your own culture and ideals on them.
Lincoln Gutierrez
> innocent civilians > what is total war
Nicholas Ortiz
>tfw the 3rd Sino-Japanese war will be USA+Japan vs. China
Gonna fuck those bamboo coons up.
Julian Bennett
Fuck off Muhammad
Logan Moore
>what you did >literally the sins of the father
So he was the one who pushed the button?
Fucking faggy limeys man...
Noah Reed
>Still trying to justify WAR CRIMES I would think after 6 threads you wouldn't be such a fucking retard.
Benjamin Smith
Speaking of forcefully instilling ideals...
Evan Harris
No.
Hudson Ortiz
They were war crimes. Add them to the long list of US atrocities they will never apologise for.
Isaiah Price
>were not involved with that war crime? did they pay their taxes and stand idle? then they are complicit. and I'm pretty sure their stock market rallied after nanking, though I only read that in a manga.
>Destroying native culture is something to celebrate nothing was destroyed they still pursue their craft and an autistic like dedication. and since the black ships western influence came front and center, why do you think they caught up so fast and had imperialistic ambitions.
you don't under stand war then. people die indiscriminately. Didn't WW1 teach you anything? and deresden
Dylan Clark
Nations responsibilities exceed the generational lifespan, stopping being willfully ignorant of the reality of how the world works. The current government is responsible for making amends for the reprehensible actions of the past governments within reason (not going back thousands of years), Hiroshima was less than 100 years ago, there are still living witnesses.
Ryder Baker
>During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations.
>Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans.
Apologize
Luis Lopez
Also, reminder that your precious anime wouldn't exist if it weren't for Hiroshima and Nagasaki but ofc, you blame da j00s.
Hunter Taylor
>one war crime committed by an ARMY Against civilians. Funny you left that out. Also, more people would have died from a land invasion, on both sides, including civilians. Japan didn't even surrender after the first nuke, you think a land invasion would have been different? >What is Bushido Also, firebombing was arguably as bad, if not worse. The only reason you care is because "nukes = scary ebil devil weapons".
Henry Garcia
kek, Based Nippon with the bantz
Christian Thompson
great argument fagtron, really convinced us with your hot opinions
Lincoln Brown
>When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers.
>The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes.
>Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you.
Apologize
Oliver Ward
No.
Lucas Lopez
>did they pay their taxes and stand idle? then they are complicit.
>Literally the same logic used by jihadists
9/11 was justified by your logic then you fucking mongoloid.
Easton Gutierrez
>start a fight against a bigger opponent >demand he apologises to you after you lose the fight
Daniel Ward
>Let's set off a nuke on the anniversary of being bombed! >Let's have a war every Memorial Day!
Fuck the left has retarded logic.
Angel Sanchez
I long for the day when UK shitposters are disregarded as quickly as Candians
Eli Ward
> War Crime
when will this meme end?
James Lewis
fuck off britain if you want us to apologize again so bad make us.
Oh wait, you're just a tiny island full of cucks who can't stop apologizing to muslims when they rape and murder you. It's offensive that you'd tell anybody else they need to apologize when you yourself have such a poor understanding of an appropriate time for apologies.
Levi Lewis
>In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch.
>After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence.
>Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings.
Apologize
Robert Peterson
>It's a "cucks being offended on behalf of nonwhites who don't give a shit" episode
Julian Allen
Those should be apologized for, I actually made a thread about Jallianwala a few weeks ago.
Matthew Jackson
>over the course of a single lunch
Wonder if he had curry?
Jaxson Carter
>Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government.
>Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault.
>Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died.
Apologize
Nolan Reed
>9/11 was justified by your logic then you fucking mongoloid. Turn that around and we need to push back against Muslim insurgence. because they muslim community sure isn't helping us..
Jayden Rivera
fucking sore fingas claiming discrimination is disgusting
fucking bookworm pieces of shit trying to get a slice of the victim pie
Samuel Long
If the OP had control of the world, he would force America to give a fake heartfelt apology by withdrawing its military personal, but not before utilizing them to forcefully send syrian and north african mudsubhumans in the millions to establish the sino-caliphate; the only way to unite the world under the light of Islam.
Carter Phillips
Most of the people protesting weren't even Japanese.
Blake Reyes
>Wonder if he had curry?
kek
Josiah King
I am agreeing with you... Its your nation's posters here that by and large don't support the need to apologize for their war crimes.
Tyler Sanders
remember to sage and ignore. reported for spam
Blake Sanchez
>not american or japanese opinion discarded.
It's also idiotic for a country who has 1% of their population that was alive that were even adults and able to vote in 1945 to apologize to another country for bombing them during a war, especially when the bombed country still spends millions a year to travel to hawaii and gloat about how the bombed pearl harbor.
Sebastian Harris
>Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India.
>In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal.
>Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”
Apologize
Daniel Cooper
>Japan blows up pearl harbor for no reason >Is in leagues with a genocidal xenophobic mass murderer >Gets btfo >Cognitively dissonant autists demand an apology from Obama to Japan for something he had no control of. >Mkay
Japan started it first by killing innocent sailors. America blowing up Nagasaki ended the war and saved several millions of more lives. What's there to apologize for.
Caleb Carter
What will apologizing do exactly?
David Morgan
Here is a basic rundown of things that transpired: >Allies made a deal with the Soviets to attack Japan 3(?) months after Germany's defeat >Cold war was already inevitable but the deal still stood >Japan was on the verge of defeat having no navy, a lingering airforce, and over a million men stranded abroad >Yet they refused to surrender >Deadline for Soviet invasion was nearing and the US feared that the Soviets would use this opportunity to seize parts of Japan like they did in Europe >US decided to end the war before that by nuking Japan into surrender >Soviets instead attacked Manchuria and conquered the Kuril islands, thus officially defeating Japan anyway >The US wanted to avoid an uproar and made a bullshit claim about "muh 6 godillion dead if we invaded" (preposterous seeing that Japan was on the brink of defeat and would be swiftly overrun by two superpowers) >The end
I think it was the right decision. One of the few things the US did right in fact. If this does not satisfy you, i would like to hear your explanation for why not.
Brandon Watson
I bet without the bombing we wouldn't have gyaru so it's justified.
also American factories rebuilt japan and so much was needlessly spent on foreign aid. You're welcome.
Ryder Hernandez
>saved several millions of more lives when you balance that against the result of Communism we should have sacrificed those lives and engaged the soviets.
Xavier Edwards
I'm still waiting for Japan to apologize for the Nanking Massacre.
Joseph Peterson
>I am agreeing with you... Its your nation's posters here that by and large don't support the need to apologize for their war crimes.
Great Britian has committed so many atrocities that the actions of the US pale in comparison to several centuries of wanton imperialism and genocide. If you were truly sorry for the actions of your country you would have committed suicide or be actively involved in the downfall of the UK instead of posting on Sup Forums you hypocritical piece of shit.
Leo Rogers
>>Is in leagues with a genocidal xenophobic mass murderer
We didn't help though. Japan sheltered Jews.
...
Which is the bad thing?
>America blowing up Nagasaki ended the war
Russia declared war the same day, it was a variety of factors.
Pic related.
Robert Kelly
OP's probably an alt-righter in all seriousness. He's just an America hating weeaboo who isn't aware without the bomb, he wouldn't have his grorious anime.
Ian Rivera
Fuck the gooks, they had it coming. Japan started it, the US finished it.
Let this be an example to everyone, this is what happens when you try to invade Australia
Jace Jackson
>If you were truly sorry for the actions of your country you would have committed suicide or be actively involved in the downfall of the UK
You don't know if he's a UK politician or not, be nice.
Aiden Hernandez
R A R E A R E
Dylan Murphy
>Invading an island nation with tens of millions of fanatical soldiers and armed civilians ready to fight and die in a suicidal guerilla campaign run by a military dictatorship with nothing to lose who know exactly where and when you're coming and are willing and able to use chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction There's no bullshit about it. Downfall would have killed millions. Just prolonging the war another year would see Japan starving.
Lucas Perez
kek
hellz ya!
Anthony Myers
did they even ask for an apology
Jayden Morales
fuck off dude
Jayden Harris
Whaddayagonnado if they don't apologize, Hakim, bitch about it on a Tibetian jade sculpting forum
Andrew Edwards
Communism didn't kill as many people as Hitler would've had if the bomb didnt explode
Oliver Davis
these are prolly kebab limeys, user
Parker Stewart
>Russia declared war the same day, it was a variety of factors.
Russia's naval capabilities at the time were pathetic and they had zero experience in amphibious warfare while the US military had been doing it since day one.
Imo the Russian war dec signaled to the Japanese that the European conflict was over and they had 0 external support.
Noah Russell
>Japan blows up pearl harbor for no reason
Yeah, not like you intentionally forced them into a corner through sanctions and embargoes because you wanted an excuse to enter the war or anything...
Kevin Phillips
< No. 78% of survivors don't want one.
Japan had armies in China, Manchuria, and Korea too. And they knew it was coming, Russia promised to declare war 90 days after VE Day.
Jonathan Ross
I completely agree OP, the US should have a done a land invasion, massacred the entire population of the country and annexed it.
Maybe there would be less degenerate drawings around these parts if Japan was the 49th state of the US.
Jack Kelly
Sucker punching another country warrants a spirit bomb desu
Jayden Robinson
Only relevant argument here, nothing else to see.
Adam Lopez
I'm gonna fuck ur ass so hard it's gonna be a war crime you Lil bitch
Dylan Fisher
ENGLAND FUCK. OFF. YOU SINGLE HANDED COMMITTED MORE WAR CRIMES THEN THE REST OF US COMBINED
Noah Morgan
>muh war crimes There is no such thing you fucking retard. A crime is something that can only exist within a limited society with definite laws: outside of it, there is no right or wrong. War is war and Japan apparently got what it deserved.
Sebastian Baker
99 more days, how are those Olympic preparations coming?
Christian Flores
Why should I apologize for something I didn't do?
Why should I apologize for something no one is asking for? Last time I heard the Nippons moved on, and actually like the West.
If they moved on why don't you? If they don't care why should you?
David Jenkins
The production and use of chemical weapons was strictly prohibited by the 1899 Hague Declaration Concerning Asphyxiating Gases and the 1907 Hague Convention on Land Warfare, which explicitly forbade the use of "poison or poisoned weapons" in warfare.
Even so, the United Kingdom used a range of poison gases, originally chlorine and later phosgene, diphosgene and mustard gas. They also used relatively small amounts of the irritant gases chloromethyl chloroformate, chloropicrin, bromacetone and ethyl iodoacetate. Gases were frequently mixed, for example white star was the name given to a mixture of equal volumes of chlorine and phosgene, the chlorine helping to spread the denser but more toxic phosgene. Despite the technical developments, chemical weapons suffered from diminishing effectiveness as the war progressed because of the protective equipment and training which the use engendered on both sides. By 1918, a quarter of British artillery shells were filled with gas and the United Kingdom had produced around 25,400 tons of toxic chemicals.
The British Expeditionary Force first used chemical weapons along the Western Front at the Battle of Loos on 25 September 1915 and continued their usage for the remainder of the war.
The US has never deployed chemical weapons. Apologize you hypocritical piece of shit