Calling all capitalists of Sup Forums what the fucks wrong with you...

Calling all capitalists of Sup Forums what the fucks wrong with you ? Please explain your reasoning for advocating this foul ideology

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Well capitalism has worked longer.than socialism or communism has, Sssssoooo.. peole are also poor because they are lazy. Or have kids before marriage. Or dont get a job.

Explain how those statements mean capitalism doesn't work?

Jesus christ..... You are stupid

This. Most of those numbers are only as low as they are BECAUSE of capitalism.

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You didn't even try to make a single damn counterargument. Nice job making yourself look like an ass, user.

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Of those 'poverty-related' deaths how many live in capitalist countries?
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Of the 868 million who 'go hungry' only a minute fraction live in capitalist countries, unless you're counting all those school kids who were asked 'have you ever at any time under any circumstances been hungry and had to wait to eat for any reason what so ever?'

When you personally own 2 homes and let homeless people live in one for free, I'll be concerned about all the other vacant houses in the US.

77.5% of households have how much debt? $1? $10? It's a meaningless statistic.

Also please check your sources, then check their sources. It's possible (and in this case probable) that they are lying to you.

Fuck if I know how the system works. Tell you what though, it certainly works for me. I just don't have a kid, a wife, or health issues. Grew up poor af with druggy family. Finished university and have decent job. Paid off debt with job. Now saving, have stocks, retirement in view, large checking and savings account.

Maybe its my white privilege. Or maybe its determination, hard work, and sensible planning.

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Capitalism works fine, its just unethical.
The real question is it any less ethical than other functional, realistic options.

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is this a new leftist strategy? finding anything bad happening in the world and pinning it on capitalism?

politifact.com/global-news/statements/2016/mar/23/gayle-smith/did-we-really-reduce-extreme-poverty-half-30-years/

fuck off, capitalism is making the world better

Grow up.

>investor funds a business
>makes money if their investment was successful
>loses everything if it was not

How is that unfair?
Maybe if the workers had a stake in the success of their business they would get more.

This'll be fun! We'll take it one by one.
>18 million die each year from poverty-related causes
>Global ag production can feed more than 1.18 times the global population
Explain how we set up the distribution systems to feed all these third world countries and who pays for it? Farmers don't farm for free. Transportation takes money.

>There are more than 5 vacant homes for every homeless person in the US
So the answer is to give someone else's property to a homeless person? How will the vacant property owner be compensated or remunerated? What if the vacant home is an absolute shithole not deemed habitable by humans?

>77.5% of US households are in debt
Explain how someone with a normal job pays full price cash for a house and a car? They can't. The only way is to get a loan. Such is debt.

>1 in 7 US residents is being pursued by a debt collector
1 in 7 US residents need better money management skills (which used to be taught in schools; home ec). 14.3% of all people isn't that bad. Some good education would drop that significantly.

Let's hear it.

Because I don't trust someone to run my life for me, and Capitalism provides the most freedom through forcing producers to compete with each other for my benefit and theirs.
Also, the biggest advantage it has over other economic systems is that it doesn't try to force human nature into an unnatural shape.
It just lets consumer wants and needs play out in a relatively unrestricted environment.

I will admit, it does have its flaws in the form of monopolies and corporate disregard for public welfare, but at least it doesn't have to be enforced with jackbooted thugs and Kalashnikovs, which inevitably must happen for a Communist state to work.

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Because I do better under Capitalism than I would under socialism. Also I'm not mathematically illiterate.

Poverty in Africa is itself the result of war and insecure property rights, and in many cases 'socialist' dictators like Mugabe

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Capitalism doesn't work, and neither does my neighbour. Fucking lazy tubbo. You'd think with all that free time he'd clean up the dog poops in his yard and mow the fucking grass. And why the fuck does he have to collect so many broken down washing machines, dishwashers, and driers? He's starting to stack them so high I can see them above the fence.

They don't pay the construction companies because individual property owners deciding when to have their specific road frontage repaired would be astronomically more expensive if not coordinated by an entity (like a local government).

How is this any different than the government taking all your earnings and doling them out in proportion to your conformity to some consensus approved ideal?

>entirety of your earnings is exhausted on food and shelter
How widespread is this in capitalism compared to other systems?

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If you work hard in school, and make simple right choices then you are guaranteed to be successful. Don't have kids too early and stay off of the devils lettuce. You have won the fucking lottery if you are 1) alive and 2) live in America. You are retarded if you think that America is 100% capitalistic. We also have a healthy dose of socialism to balance things out. Ex) public education, minimum wage. I honestly feel bad that our education system has failed so badly

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Better dead than red.

The thing with capitalism (as it is in most countries, including the US) is that when you're poor it's almost always entirely your fault. You only have to do 3 things to only have a 1.5% poverty rate. Those things are:
1. Don't have kids before you're married
2. Complete highschool
3. Get a job
79% of people who follow these steps join the middle class from poverty, and 98.5% of these people stop being in poverty in their life.

Surprisingly accurate for a joke post.

Name one communist country in history that a LGBT person the left claims to love so much would be able to live in without hiding their oh-so-precious identity.

Maybe it’s because your entire entertainment budget is this website

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I'll just leave this here

>saved the world from nazi germany
Which would not have happened if the Allies weren't pinching them from the other side. It was a group effort you cunt.

>i don't know how statistics works

Actually this one is because no poor neighboorhood would ever be able to afford roads. This is a good function of government, and I'd argue that it isn't socialism so much as necessary functions to maintain economic freedom, and industry.

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>Insane ramblings of a spoiled child who has no idea how the real world works.

You are the most naive person I've ever heard spout off in this shithole.

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>look mom im an ancap

i remember being 14 and full of idealism

>Did space travel
They sent a fucking basketball into space. US had that technology, but unlike communism, capitalism does things with a purpose.

>when you kill 20million prople but it's okay because you built some tanks and sent a dog into spalce

>not an argument

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>only porkies oppose the total blood-covered failure that is communism
Just kys

>Calling all capitalists of Sup Forums what the fucks wrong with you ?
Took econ 101 and a few more I guess.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem

THIS

0% contributed to a counterargument
well done OP

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>more calorie consumption
> Ended famine in eastern Europe
My friends the kulaks would like to have a word with you
>B-But the holodomor never happened
>C-Comunism works T-Trust me guys I have a batch degree in sociology

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Well shit. Its worked better in large societies than Communism ever will, so might as well weigh the choices, bitch boi.

Idiot Amerifats have been brainwashed by 150 years of outright lies by the rich oligarchs who own the country. Capitalism doesn't mean what they think it does. You look at the responses of the mouth-breathing middle school fedoralords in here, for example, and it's very clear they think capitalism means trade. Trade pre-dates capitalism by at LEAST 50,000 years, and probably more.

Capitalism is based on the premise of a small number of private individuals having exclusive ownership of the means of production. To be allowed to earn a living, everyone who doesn't own the means of production must agree to allow those who own the means of production to tax their labour. The alternative is poverty, homelessness, starvation, and death. In other words, capitalism is a form of slavery where the chains are economic instead of de jure.

Capitalism was invented as a way of aggregating wealth. When it was created, the only way to gather enough wealth to build capital projects like dams, highways, factories, bridges, and railroads was to create a class of super-rich people. So capitalism is actually ANTI-trade. Its whole function was to create monopolies to allow a small handful of people to become super-wealthy.

But of course, this takes longer than 5 seconds to read and requires considerably more intelligence to understand than "BETTER DEAD THAN RED" or whatever idiot kneejerk reaction fires off in their little peanut brains when someone suggests that Bugs Bunny cartoons might not be an authority on economics.

>mocking the challenger explosion
Wow you pinkos really sink to new lows to try to get people to agree with you. The soviet space program sucked some much dick that their moon landing plan involved hitching a ride back with the americans. Look it up. I could not make up this shit if I tried

What you are describing is a capitalist aristocracy dumbass. Capitalism is defined as:
noun
1.
an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.
source the fucking dictionary

Did you even read what you copied and pasted? Your own definition confirms exactly what I wrote, that capitalism is predicated on private and exclusive ownership of the means of production. In other words, you are not allowed to create wealth unless you agree to the terms of the people who own the means of creating that wealth.

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Hey i have a great example of how communism has worked really well...It's Russia...oh wait..

yup faggot nothing ever bad happens because of communism. I got friends who first hand grew up in Russia and one in Romania. so suck dick I know you are wrong pussy wait till the 4th then come see me please.

It pisses me off to know that people support this ideology that benefits the few and exploits the working class

yes I did diptshit. You can create capital without being MC-mega corp. The united states is not a capitalist aristocracy if I have the skills and resources to start a restaurant I can. The restaurant mafia is not gonna come and break my knees with baseball bats for competing with their business. I can make my own wealth that is privately mine. My restaurant in this scenario is a capitalist institution in this case.

>eole are also poor because they are lazy. Or have kids before marriage. Or dont get a job.
Pure ideology

Epic meme.

communism is a great ideology that promises to help everyone on paper but it collapses the moment it is implemented in real life. Your point?

You only get to own a restaurant if you pay the owner of the means of production -- that is, the land it's on -- for using it. Please stop trying to think. You're not good at it.

This is utter bullshit. Only someone with their nose stuck in an Ayn Rand novel or Austrian economics garbage would say this.

que picardia

That's more socialism than communism. The theory behind communism sounds better so that gets used more as a propaganda tool.

Let me guess, all the impoverished countries aren't real capitalism? You're as deluded as the communists.

Human beings objectively own their minds, bodies, and the results of their actions. Capitalism is the only philosophically consistent economic system.

The Soviet Union actually developed very rapidly.

Yes those are called taxes. Also if I grow my own wheat and raise my own animals I don't have to pay anyone to produce more. I would pay for food to feed my animals but I profit off that because I can sell my food and make more money than the cost of the feed. Communism Is the state putting a 100% tax on everything then giving it back as it sees fit. I'll take my 20% land tax over economic redistribution. Also nice ad hominem.

but it's not the only system

>Mugabe is a socialist despite running a kleptocratic, individualistic, wealth-pursuing (if you're rich already) state simply because he said he was socialist 30 years ago and hasn't explicitly condoned free market capitalism

Without Capitalism, people can't follow their dreams.

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Source?

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> Of those 'poverty-related' deaths how many live in capitalist countries?
> 0%

Define 'poverty-related death'. Someone who dies from a curable disease because they can't afford healthcare? Someone who dies from an illness caused by bad living conditions? Someone who freezes to death because they can't afford/find an extra blanket? Someone who dies of neglect because they can't afford to be put into a good nursing home?

Sorry dude, but if someone lives on the street in a capalist country for 60 years and then dies of tuberculosis or an infected mosquito bite, that's a poverty-related death in my book.

You have to be trolling me. No one is this stupid. You're agreeing with me that those who own the means of production get to extract wealth from anyone who wants to create wealth. That's EXACTLY what I wrote. Jesus christ, are you actually retarded? Do you have someone nearby to wipe off your drool?

Why the fuck do I do this to myself? I let a pack of mouth-breathing, subnormal, brainwashed teenyboppers troll me into wasting my time, every god damned time. I must be as fucking dopey as they are.

Because the standard of living is better for a bigger percentage than communism. If you don't have the right to fail you don't have the right to succeed

In fairness, most impoverished countries are either blatantly not capitalist, or are in such a mess that they're hardly anthing.

yes I am trolling you you fucking retard! If you have head so far up your own ass that you did not see that immediately the only retard here is you.

yep. Countries that have the most poverty are usually in a power struggle or lack a government capable of doing anything

Propose a better alternative.

Pro tip: you can’t.

>extracting wealth
>Clean the bathroom of my store and I'll pay you $9.00 an hour
>Okay I will. I value your $9 more than the hour I would be spending doing anything else, and you value my labor more than you $9
>Sounds good to me, we have a private and voluntary agreement
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>I'M BEING EXPLOITED!!!

I knew if i posted something with a capitalist undertone you would have a fucking aneurysm. Capitalism can work if your govt. is not corrupt. also see

I literally had MC-mega corp. in my post. That's a fucking joke on anarcho-captialism