Aus/pol/ General: Innovation Edition

Is he right? Do we not need fast Internet?

Other urls found in this thread:

msn.com/en-au/news/australia/pyne-says-australians-dont-need-fast-internet/ar-BBtnSVz?li=AAgfLCP
abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/pauline-hanson-a-realistic-chance-of-returning-to-canberra/7440944
youtube.com/watch?v=ORmCk6OEOn4
theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/23/victoria-to-become-first-government-to-apologise-for-gay-convictions
openpetition.eu/at/petition/online/neuwahlen-sofort-oesterreich-braucht-eine-neue-regierung
twitter.com/AnonBabble

For reference:
msn.com/en-au/news/australia/pyne-says-australians-dont-need-fast-internet/ar-BBtnSVz?li=AAgfLCP

>from link

Liberal minister Christopher Pyne has defended his party's globally obsolete National Broadband Network saying Australians don't need fast internet.


The Minister for Innovation, Science and Industry faced fierce criticism of the NBN, which will produce some of the slowest internet speeds in the world, when he appeared on Q&A last night.

Australia is currently ranked 44th in the world for its connection speeds, below Ireland, Latvia and the Czech Republic.

In 2013, Labor's NBN promised download speeds of 1Gbps through an innovative fibre optics network linked directly to people's homes, on par with international standards.

However, the Coalition's version which won't be completed until 2020 and will only provide download speeds of 25Mbps, well below the global average.

Speaking in defence of the NBN, Mr Pyne said: "(Australians) simply didn't need the speeds that Labor was promising."

"You will be able to watch five full-length movies in the same household if you all want to at the same time.

"Which is a lot of movies. That's a lot of televisions."

His comments come after a series of AFP raids over leaked documents revealed cost blowouts for the Coalition's network.

The leaked documents highlighted the $800 million Optus network was "not fully fit for purpose" and could require more than 470,000 premises to be reconnected.

Labor shadow infrastructure and transport spokesman Anthony Albanese said "the NBN isn't about movies, it's about our economy and how it functions".

"Malcolm Turnbull's fraud-band is double the cost" and "half the speed of what he said it would be. And the delay is extraordinary," he said.

The coalition has also been criticised for pledging to use antiquated copper wiring to support the NBN.

We need to be comparable with our trading partners. My biggest issue is with the lack of persistent upload speeds in a hfc/vdsl/whatever the fuck. Asynchronous uploads are the killer

NBN is literally not needed for private residences

If you disagree, fuck off, you don't need to download your cuck porn any faster you fucking nerd.

If fast internet is so vital to you move out of your mum's basement in the suburbs and move into a place you know has great internet speeds, there are already plenty of developments in every major city that has world class internet speeds. It is not the government's responsibility to shell out for your cuck porn habits and Australia's porn and pirating addiction.

I completely agree.

HUURRRR DURRRR UNION THUGS HUUUURRRR DURRRRR ABC BIAS HURRRRRR DURRRRRR LABOR'S DEBT AND DEFICIT DISASTER HURRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRR

good post

Hi Friendlyjordies! Give me a shoutout in your next vid pls

>abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/pauline-hanson-a-realistic-chance-of-returning-to-canberra/7440944

IT'S

HAPPENING

She'll be lucky to pick up a senate seat. There are too many right wing 'xenophobic' meme parties to solidify a presence in Government. It's like lobsters in a pot.

Why is she running in Qld? Yes, I know she has roots there, but so does Katter and Palmer, and they'll be fighting for similar votes

>Palmer
Irrelevant. Him and his party are dead.

>Katter
They never do well in Senate voting, so there's not much competition there.

Eh, neither of them are that strong I'll grant you, but they'll probably get 1-2% each. That's enough to tip it for the last senate seat

youtube.com/watch?v=ORmCk6OEOn4


Here's a video of it absolutely rage inducing

Palmer is completely gone.

I hate Melbourne lads. Where should I move?

Tasmania.

...

Palmer is gone, Party is still there, as is Lazarus

>private residences don't need ADSL, dial-up is fine!
This is what you sound like. I dong think you realise how shit our internet is absolute shit.
There's also no middle group with speeds, we either stay on copper with a max of ~20mbps or upgrade to fiber with speeds of 1000mbps+.
Fiber is better in literally every way and will save shit loads of money in the long run

kek

Then why isn't private sector building it

theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/23/victoria-to-become-first-government-to-apologise-for-gay-convictions

Have >we finally jumped the shark, lads?

No one can cover the costs.
If we had dirt roads everywhere do you think the private sector could afford to build sealed roads everywhere?

PAY FOR YOUR FAST INTERNET YOURSELF YOU LAZY CUNTS

Not yet, we'll jump the shark if/when Labor wins the election. As of now, it's just Melbourne being >Melbourne

>Cucktoria

>tfw actually asked telstra once if there was any way to pay for better upload speeds on cable

But roads have a long term purpose

pic looks like a typical labor voter.

This is always the consequences of liberal ideology. You get people telling you what you want or need.

I CANT EVEN UPLOAD PICTURES

FUCK EVERYTHING

Yeah I'm sure this "internet" fad will die out in the next couple of years and serve no long term purpose.

So does the internet. The fiber network will last much longer than the copper one.

sydney is slightly less bad.

You can watch 5 full length movies at the same time in one house. What else do you want? Gay marriage, NBN and all that shit are red herrings. Real issue is still immigration and we know that typical Labor would ruin that spectacularly as they did under Rudd-Gillard-Rudd. Coalition are projected to get us back to a surplus by 2021, which is 5 years away and will save you having to pay of the debt through your tax in the future.

>hate all parties

I guess it's a 'vote for who you hate the least' election... which in this case could be labor.

Of course I'll be putting them behind every small party and be voting for the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party first.

You should move Apex and the rest of the immigrants, and put them into the sea

Im confused. Who exactly is he preaching to when he says things like this? Im Australian and everyone I know is desperate for faster internet.

The only time Ive ever seen anyone say anything anti internet was an old lady I was serving at woolies who worked for the local council.

And I'm sure there'll be no new developments whatsoever that make fiber defunct

The lifetime of good quality fibre could be centuries. I'm not saying it would be but could be.

I voted (single-issue) for NBN. But I've come to realise that Australian society is simply too retarded to implement it, no matter how much money is thrown. Money isn't the problem. Labor threw 38 billion at a mass of "capitalist" bureaucrat farts who sat around for 10 years drinking designer coffee and awarding themselves payrises. There was no vertical capacity build, no utility planning, just

The old collective mentality is gone in Australia and can't be brought back. Further awards of contract, etc is going to get gamed like the F35. If the government tried to do it internally bureaucrats would nowadays take over the role of self-entitling icecream-cash-ingesters and the result would be equivalent.

I'd probably vote for NBN again, my need is too strong. But it won't happen. Woe, woe, to the stupid country.

You know Greens are the only major party that don't want to sell it as soon as it's profitable anyway?

>implying Libs wont still tax you out the ass for whatever feel good measure they use as an excuse to money launder that week

Fuck all of them, vote LDP

>th-the government should decide what internet speed I do and don't need
Jesus christ, even if you're a Liberal voter it's still ok to admit sometimes the party is wrong.

Shitty internet means we aren't competitive on the fastest growing and already most important market/platform in the world.

It's a no brainer, why are we even discussing this. Fucking liberals.

So who should decide?

Brisbane or SE Qld

Labor had six years and what'd they accomplish?

>Coalition are projected to get us back to a surplus by 2021
We're never going back to surplus, even the Libs think we're a fucking money tree now.

>And I'm sure there'll be no new developments whatsoever that make fiber defunct
It'll be a very long time (think 100+ years) before something with more bandwidth than light is viable as a replacement

Though if you believe ALP or the Greens we'll be under 30 metres of water before then

this, senpai
>muh guns

>tfw FTTH NBN

feels good mang

h-hi

>only began it's implementation in the second term
>implying that a nation-spanning project like the NBN is going to take only a few measly years in a country the size of Australia

They achieved a sufficient amount. Don't kid yourself otherwise.

I know this feel

>Coalition are projected to get us back to a surplus by 2021

He's a member of our conservative party, who are ironically called the liberal party

>the American "definition" of liberal again.

Get out.

hahah this cunt gives the best bants

i actually agree though, why would anyone actually need that internet speed in their houses? what kind of bullshit do people do that requires it?

It's not ironic. That's what a real liberal is. Classic Liberalism. It's only in the US that they for some retarded reason tag it onto social progressives.

IMO Australian cities:
Top cuck tier: Melbourne
Cuck tier: Sydney
Below average cuck depending on area: Brisbane
Cuck resistance tier: Adelaide
Anti cuck god tier: Perth, anywhere that's rural and not aboriginal
Abo tier: Darwin

...

Shame they're insane on most things

come on sign it and help the austria bros

openpetition.eu/at/petition/online/neuwahlen-sofort-oesterreich-braucht-eine-neue-regierung

>liberals
>conservative

they lean to the right economically but they're not conservatives

problem is I think Daniel Andrews is aiming for federal politics and the Prime Ministership then we're all fucked.

...

>MUH GUNS

>I can't see how it could be useful with my tunnel vision worldview
>that means nobody have it.

Westies always have the biggest insecurity complexes

what do you want cunt? go back to your room

Right now he can only shitpost on dial-up which is not efficient shitposting at all

They clearly want more shitposting, meme magic and psyops by Australians on forums and such.

No, they can have it if they want to pay for it

>tfw 30kb/s upload speed

Just fucking kill me now

>what kind of bullshit do people do that requires it?
torrenting my Blacked site rips

well tell me cunt

answer my question

>B I L L I O N D O L L A R B I L L
I
L
L
I
O
N

D
O
L
L
A
R

B
I
L
L

But we are paying for it. That's what the NBN is, the government creating a modern internet system and paying for it. How thick are you?

kinda hoping someone in here is QT :/ im in my room listening to the rain on the roof

I have my appointment with the NBN installer next week. FTTP.

I've got mine so you can all go get fucked. I'm voting Liberal.

We're funding the eastern states. Do you realise how rapid the economic fall would be for Australia if W.A. succeeded?

Only thing the east has going for it is scenery.

I know this is b8, but who literally gives a fuck about airsoft when you can own actual firearms (sans semi-auto rifles/automatic) yourself?
Is applying for a licence + having a legitimate reason for owning one too much for some people?

Except if it's paid for by everyone, it's built to the expectations of the average person. You're wanting someone above the demands of the average person, and we're saying if you want that you'll have to pay. How thick are you?

Turnbull getting on Trump's 'nickname your opponent for political gain' bandwagon.

I like it.

>listening to the rain on the roof
They are a great band m80. Love their catalogue.

I dunno if Turncoat should really be giving others derogatory nicknames.

5 movies! That sounds tremendous!

And that will take at least 4 more years.

Your politicians certainly do plan for the future and have your best interests at heart. God love 'em.

Probably not, but I'd rather him than Billy-Boob Shorten desu.

>You're wanting someone above the demands of the average person

Everybody I've met under the age of 60 approves of the NBN and everyone under the age of 50 wants faster internet. While this is anecdotal evidence, the honest belief by you that " You're wanting someone above the demands of the average person" is purely a fairytale you tell yourself at night.

Also what is it with the liberals. So often I hear them screaming about "eqaulity of opportunity, not equality of outcome" and then proceeds to tear down that same belief by gutting systems which can only be funded by a collective effort FOR that equality of opportunity. The NBN is that exact scenario.

Having it funded by everyone for everyone is equitable. Just because you can't see a use for a real internet network in Australia doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer for it. Tunnel vision.

>5 movies!
I bet they are all 700mb files too.

These dumb cunts can't understand that in the future movie files are going to be 10x bigger so you will end up only being able to watch half of one, buffering all the way, not five.

The government has signed brain-dead legislation making it illegal for them to own profitable competing entities. This can be got around with by mandating their parastatals to be nonprofit, but:

IMHO there's simply too much moral debasement in society now for nonprofits to function properly. Management inevitably decides it owns the place and destroys it with diversity recruiting, internal boondoggles, empire building, cronyism, etc. etc. You can see this happening to Australia post right now. Among other things I blame multiculturalism. No wogs should have been allowed in after 1945. Every increment in diversity brings a corresponding decrement in societal intelligence.

>paid shills on Sup Forums for the next month

I'm actually a little scared that Labor will win, even with the Liberals and Greens playing dirty.

Why? What is to be afraid of?

You fully admit annecdotal evidence, when there ARE polls.

Go look up the essential research polls, or the ones crickey pollbludger links to every few weeks. There are polls done on whether voters prioritise faster internet, smaller deficits, less taxes, lower spending, etc etc, and the NBN simply isn't highest priority.

Demand for it exists, yes. But because it's soft demand it will not be built to the desire of a heavy internet user. It will be built to the standard demanded by the swinging voter in the swinging electorate.

no one in this thread can even say what they need faster internet for

pathetic lads

>all opinions that differ from my own must be from paid shills
Grow up retard.

I am a shill

Post 'em

ok