Realistically, what are my chances of getting laid and hitting on girls if i'm 5'8...

Realistically, what are my chances of getting laid and hitting on girls if i'm 5'8, 120lbs and basically look like a child with barely any facial hair.

I'm 20yo if that counts.

How is your self confidence and social skills?

I have no problem talking to people, no problem talking to women too, i can talk for hours and make them laugh.
Problem is since i looked like this for 6 years now i basically had no girlfriend, no relationships and i don't know how to initiate any contact let alone sexual, i'm blocked in the "frienzone" literally, i just don't know how to proceed after the first interaction and it stays.
Girl even had crushes on me but eventually it faded because, well i didn't know how to proceed.

I also slouch a little and want to fix that, fucking posture sucks.

What's your dick like?

jesus, man, you are just 20. Most men still look like shit at 20. Wait 5 years, do some regular exercise (once a week) and everything will work out eventually.

6'' if that matters.

Do porn dummy.. They are always looking for fresh faced kids. I went through adult4hire in the late 90's and early 2000's. Back then they paid like $100 for jackoff vids. Or they'd pay to fly you out to San Diego for shoots.

I don't know, i've been diagnosed with hypermetabolism, i tried eating 4000 calories a day for 3 months and went to the gym but no avail, so i pretty much stopped about thinking that everything will sort itself out.
Even if it will like you say in 5 years or so how am i supposed to even start dating at age 25?
I don't know what to do.

>5ft 8.
Good luck OP. Most girls dont like a guy shorter then them. On the bright side you can buy most shoes in kids sizes and get them cheaper.

you can go for that hipster intellectual look tbh... it's what I did. Make use the fact that you are not fat. Wear long-sleeve. Buy slim fit pants. Fancy shoes. Nice hairstyle. Any "radical" change boosts your confidence.

I'm 23, 5'6 130 lbs and people notmally think I'm 17-18 at most

I get laid fine I would say, rarely a month without sex. with or without commiting. I'm no asian either, I'm german thus 5'6 is REALLY short, but so far I feel like it barely had any effect. I've been with taller girls, too

100% if you pay a hooker. OP, it doesn't matter what you look like. I'm pretty good looking and tall, but I lack confidence. You need confidence buddy

I actually want to get a haircut done soon, any ideas on what i should do?
I want to try something new.

Where do you meet them? university? clubs, bars?
I don't know why but being skinny makes me me so unconfident and hesitant when approaching women, i feel blocked inside a bubble and i can't break through.

Any tips on how to be confident wise Sup Forums?

depends a lot on your faceshape/headshape

it would be best to go to a barbershop and let them decide. My brother is a men's barber and he knows which haircut is best for his customers.

this, also go to somwhere expensive to have them figure it out. once you have it you can go back to more affordable ones once you know exactly what you want

If you were gay, I'd say enormous.

Eat more and do push ups you retarded bitch
I started doing 5 a day and graduated to 10 and now I do a minimum of 100 a day in sets of 28

Same boat as OP, I don't wear t shirts, always a jacket on even when it's hot, I feel ashamed.

hahahaha

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The former user is right though. Around age 25 is usually when men start dropping in their growth hormone, slowing metabolism and starting to build-up fat. So most men that don't make an effort to stay fit will start getting fatter around that age.

Now in your case you will just start getting more built. I know it sucks not pulling any tail at the moment, but you will probably be well preserved in your 30s and still be handsome in your 50s and 60s.

Your time will come user... just wait for it.

I get to know them via tinder and its clones. I only talk to matches. I set up dates anywhere

can you post picture? not that I dont believe you but I'm genuiincredibly curious on how you look from doing push ups alone

Get jacked...
1 gallon 2% milk every single fucking day and hit the weights hard like 4 days a week at least

you'll beef out big time

it's all about attitude man not physical appearance... guys just have to be fuckable in appearance and have a good personality

Hang out with some school teachers, you'll have to chase them away with a stick.

You ate 4000 calories every day for 3 months and did not gain weight?

Congratulations, you just defied the laws of physics. Also you're a filthy liar

i feel you op, develop confidence my man, it will help a lot

Find you a female shotacon. ;-)

Srsly tho, it's more about confidence than how you look.

Thanks man, i guess i'm doing it for my future self then.
If you consider 10lbs an achievement then yeah i did, but i couldn't continue like that, i was literally stuffing food down my throat no stop but barely any impact, as soon as i stopped i dropped back to 120lbs again.

I also can't afford to eat like that constantly for years.

>Get jacked...
>it's all about attitude man not physical appearance.

>confidence
How do i get more confident Sup Forumsros?

Go after 17 year olds. They don’t know any better.

It's not that great kid
I smoked for roughly 15 years since I was 13 and I also drank a lot and smoked weed
I wasn't an athlete and I was really scrawny in HS
Also, I don't just do push ups
I also do squats, sit ups (with a sit up bench), I do curls and overhead lifts and I jog for about 10 minute sets 2 times a day (however recently I've decreased it to every other day)
Cardio is extremely important, and so is shitting, you need to watch what you eat, no spices, very little cheese, lots of meat, chicken and beef are ok, tuna is ok (mix chunk light with solid albacore), and mostly be patient. This shit takes fuckin years, not a few weeks.

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I can talk to people with no problem, how do i escalate things though?
I don't know what to AFTER the first contact.
No sexual touches, don't know how to flirt, nothing, i feel so out of touch.

There is more wisdom in this post them I'm used to seeing on Sup Forums. The thought of waiting til your 30s and 40s for the best years of your life is fucking agonizing when you're in your 20s.
But once you get there, you'll feel sorry for your contemporaries who are already burned out at 30.

How is cardio super important?
Won't it actually do the opposite of gaining weight?
I'll burn everything i've eaten?

>How do i get more confident Sup Forumsros?
you may not like it but I can tell you how I gained confidence.


bang fatties and not so pretty girls and don't treat them as well as you should. you'll gain more confidence and can slowly work your way up. there's a limit to that though

Looks doesn't really matter. I'm 20yr, 5'11 and 140lbs. Fucked 21 girls in 2 years, some of which have been solid 8's and 9's. In my experience, being confident, slightly aggresive and somewhat of a douchebag works the best, at least for one night stands.

>get confidence by fucking girls
>fuck girls by becoming confident

Vicious cycle ain't it?

Same for me

Oh and also get a protein powder to make milkshakes with, you need to drink something like that to make sure your shits are logs and don't come out as just a mess.

it's more of a spiral because girls does not equal girls. for low shelf you don't need confidence and that's your entrance to the upward spiral of fucking to become confident to get to fuck because of your confidence. this works until you hit a level of girls too attractive or too good in general to sleep with you

Looks aren't my problem to be honest, i'm good looking but autistic when it comes to relationships and talking and flirting, or confidence and social skills as you guys say.

I don't know what to do when talking to a girl, do i touch her? do i make a joke about this or that, everything seems so mechanical and not fluid, i feel like i have to analyze everything and it just seems like a mess.

I have no idea on how to flirt or gain confidence, i don't know if there are books for it or not or how to do it, fuck i sound retarded..

Become a heavy lifter or a gymnast

Cardio is important because it's good for lung capacity and heart rate
if you can't breath how the fuck are you gonna lift weights? You'll get winded too quickly
Heart health is important, you could injure yourself if you don't do any cardio but you're trying to lift. So it's pretty important even if you think it'll do the opposite, you just have to balance all this shit out and don't think that you can do it all in one go. Go light and easy and increase slowly over a few days, weeks, months, however long it takes for you to start moving properly.
>burning everything you've eaten isn't a bad thing, it means your body absorbed the nutrients, otherwise you're just putting food in so you don't die without doing anything with the energy you get from it.

Focus on a decent career or trade.
Make some cash and the pussy will take care of itself.

Honestly, it comes with time as long as you don't waste most of that time feeling sorry for yourself and hating yourself and feeling worthless.
And I know that can be the most difficult part.

Learn how to do shit.

I mean, be that guy who can fix stuff, do stuff, knows things. And do it for yourself, not to impress anyone. I barely even cracked the hood of a car to put oil in it until I was in my early 20s.

The sooner you realize that there is something to learn ever day of your life, the sooner you'll realize learning things isn't a chore, but a gift.

You don't have to be able to rebuild an engine tomorrow, or know how to properly skin a deer next week, or administer a database next year.

You have time to slowly build your knowledgebase and skillset.

Knowing how to do shit builds confidence.
Knowing when you DON'T know how to do something and being willing to ask helps you build that knowledgebase.

Also, not giving a fuck about people's opinions of you is fucking paramount.

Obviously if someone accuses you if some bullshit, you'll want to try to set the record straight or whatever, but if people are like, "Oh, user is a weirdo," or "user is gay," don't let it get to you. Busybody gossips eventually get known s the busybody gossips, and people who will matter in your life will take what they say with a grain of salt.

I know I'm kinda all over the place with this, but I'm taking a shit and running on not enough sleep.

I'm 40 btw. I've seen some stuff.

You see a far more worthy and powerful being than you think.

You have a right to exist.

This sounds like some basic motivational shit, but it's the foundation of the confidence you want to build.

If you can achieve it more quickly than I did, then I've done my job. ;-)

Umm...I bet you have admirers. I'm mid 30s and have always loved young looking guys. Very into the tween/teen skinny boy look. My last boyfriend was skinny as a rail and was 24, he loved pretending I was his teacher/mom/aunt/babysitter/etc. Have confidence.

You *ARE a far more powerful and worthy being than you think.

My phone... It's a constant struggle.

I used to be like you. I ate whatever I wanted and didn't gain weight. Then I started to workout and change my diet: I went to the gym 3-6 times a week and focused on eating carbs and protein. I gained 8kg in 6 months. Yes, it took time to see results.

Why don't let them make the first move? Worked out for me... Also, what have you to lose? Be daring and then, if you fuck up, learn from your mistakes.
Seems like your problem is really thinking about it too much. There are videos and books where you can learn to read body language and respond to it accordingly. This way, you analyzing the situation will be a positive rather than a negative.

Hell OP I'm you but worse at 5'10 and 115 lbs. I've always gotten pussy, wtf are you doing wrong?

>5'8

How?

>Realistically, what are my chances of getting laid and hitting on girls if i'm 5'8
lol, none.

OP post cockpix so I can see whether I'd give you a pity bj

I can only tell you how I do it, which works for me.

it may sound super counter intuitive but I talk to all dates as if they were a regular friend/bro. just relaxed, not super nice, honest, but maybe tone down the very worst of you that you would keep up in front of actual friends ( I seriously only mean the very worst though, it's simple, no faring or making extremely bad jokes or something like that)

that is only how you TALK with them though
treating them is a different story, but even easier.

if they are willing to meet you a second time after getting to know you, they will be okay with you kissing them goodbye after the second date if you're in public or making out or even fuck if you'Re at home.

during the first date nothing needs to happen, sure you can try to fuck them and it will sometimes work, probably more often than you think, but i fyou just wait for her agreeing to meet a second time, you can be CERTAIN she wants things to happen. she will actually be dissapointed if you let her go without anything. act accordingly

Always been "cute". Learned how to use it.

But some girls are into super skinny guys! I used to have a crush on a guy that was really skinny. And you aren't short either, you'll be fine :)

Last bit of advice user,
A guy I was in jail once said it to me best
"Guys in here don't like to see other dudes getting big."
that and my brother told me about this documentary with Arnold Schwarzenegger called Pumping Iron where Arnold himself would fuck with other body builders heads by putting them down while they were at the gym.
The reason is because he was doing it for competition and if you can get inside your opponent's head, you've already won.
Life is a competition user, don't let anyone tell you otherwise, from the dawn of man to seven seconds ago when you started reading this, man has strived to out do the rest of humanity, men have sought to be the most ideal mate, to be the strongest and the best among all others....anyways.....
If life is a competition, and dudes don't like to see other competition join the race AND they're willing to fuck with your head just to eliminate you as another opponent, you have to have a will so strong that nothing anyone says or does can stop you from doing what you need to in order become a better you.
Insults, fucking with your schedule so you can't maintain a constant and consistent work out routine, anything and everything is on the table.
Life is a ring, and once you step into it, prepare to get knocked the fuck around for a bit, it's all a part of the game.

>whores

0% if you don't try and stay on Sup Forums for user to trick you into liking dick.
100% if you find a fun way to get fit, make friends with people with common interests, and keep looking for a woman who appreciates you for the lifestyle you demonstrate.

What did you eventually do with that crush?

Read "The Game". Generally it's something you learn to judge, eg. when to touch her and when to back off. You should find ugly girls to practise on first.

Caroline?

yeah dating really is like an RPG, just grind some XP with uglies and fatties until you're really to step up your game

Skinny doesn't really matter, better than being fat af, but your height is an issue, average height of teenage girls now is 5'8 - 5'9, your height is literally shorter than 13 year old girls. Perhaps get some lifters or wear heeled cowboy boots when out and about.

THIS should cover these fucker's, op:

>your height is literally shorter than 13 year old girls.
where the fuck do you live? I'm a 5'7 european so even shorter tham him and around half the women are taller, the other half shorter. young girls are only taller than me in very rare cases

He was my boyfriend's (at the time- this was like 7 years ago, I'm 21 and engaged now) good friend, so I didn't do anything, just admired from afar.

No, Emily.

He must live in the US where grown hormones are in the milk and vaccinations are mandatory so all the teenage girls are 6'7", 250lbs, and autistic. (Converted to imperial so the backward tards in 3rd world AmeriKKKa won't be confused by the superior metric numbers.)

>grown hormones

Motherfucking automistake.

...

Simply find a shy, insecure girl like pic related.

Starting Strength
Gallon of milk a day

You think it's a meme. It's not. You better get up off you ass, and get to a gym. Women are attracted to physically strong men. You can get laid looking the way you do, but you're not going to be at the top of any social hierarchy if you can't even muster the self-discipline to improve your health and strength to a minimum respectable level for a healthy 20-something male.

>be a neurosurgeon
>not the top of the social hierarchy because 120lbs

lul

Pretend you have a terminally I'll disease, and get sympathy points

why pretend tbh, just eat aids

Hes telling op how to get big because op wants to get big. The part is what he actually needs to know

>20 year old neurosurgeon
Yes, if OP is Doogie Howser, M.D. then he should just buy a nice car, and a condo. It would still help to strength train though. I know a few doctors. They date 6/10's because they're 6/10's with a good job. Being upper-middle class doesn't automatically get you supermodels. Chances are, you'll be dating higher IQ working women who aren't necessarily the hottest women in the world.

i dont see how this was an issue for everyone. im 22 and still am a skinny little cunt. dunno if in australia our women arent like you yanks, cause ours dont think anything below 6 foot is a problem. literally never had an issue with girls, just be a decent dude, take care of your appearance in ways you can control (wash properly, dress well, get a good haircut) and learn how to talk to girls.

I used to have the same problem. I changed my diet while starting to work out and gained 30 lbs in a year, my dr asked if I was taking steroids. Now, I'm 29 and wish I had that problem again. I have a fucking desk job since it pays the most, I'm married and stopped working out too. The fucking fat I'm gaining sucks.

OP read this

Stop trying to get a girlfriend just do stuff that benifits you get a tan work out some smile more read a book or two and don't forget to eat 2k calories a day.

>learn how to talk to girls.
This is where my problem is, how do i learn

dude fucking EAT. your hands are like that of niglets in africa

Are you trying to date or just fuck?

Both i guess?
these are me.

I'm trying to think of solid advice, but I pretty much made the first sexual advances in the majority of my relationships.
me.

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Examples of said advances?

Eat massive amounts of protein. Take massive amounts of steroids. Go hitting a gym a.k.a. gain weight and muscles. Problem solved!

Idk... I haven't thought about those situations in a while. Sometimes it was just sending pictures first. First example that comes to mind is after my senior prom, my boyfriend (we had just started dating 2 days before prom so I couldn't take him as my date) came to pick me up from the venue. We went to Walmart and bought a tub of icecream to eat in the car while we talked. I was tired afterward so I ended up laying my head in his lap. He was obviously hard so I gave him a blowjob. After that I felt really bad because I thought that it was too soon in the relationship and he'd think I was a slut, but we're still together and engaged so I guess it's okay lol.

I have a pretty athletic body shape to begin with, so not working for 9 months and doing jack shit put on a bit of a tummy. Now I've got a new job, I've started making myself scrambled eggs with bacon and sausage every morning, and doing like 20-30 push ups and some crunches. I can see a clear difference already after 2 weeks, and it feels great. My arms and shoulders never been bigger I don't get it. We're talking like maybe 3-4 weeks max

Just find a pedo bitch

Just bottom for a normal sized man, you know you want to

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