Dawkins says it's ridiculous to be accused of racism when you criticise Islam

independent.co.uk/news/people/richard-dawkins-atheist-academic-calls-for-religion-to-be-offended-at-every-opportunity-a7043226.html

based Dawkins does it again

why is he the only one brave enough to roast Islam?

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>le atheists don't criticize Islam meme

When will this die

There's somewhat of a cultural schism with atheism as a movement itself. Dawkins is of the older breed, the new leftist nu-males are the other and they drank the kool-aid.

You don't see many younger atheists talking shit about Islam, just the older guys like Dawkins and Thunderf00t. Places like rationalwiki are basically just thralls for feminists and SJW for example. It wasn't always like this though. I remember the early 2000s we shit on Christian fundies and other religiously motivated idiocy all the time. It's very much a newer thing where progressives and atheism intersect.

Atheism is pretty interesting in that it's empty in and of itself, but it opens many doors. Unfortunately a lot of new atheists are choosing really shitty doors as shitty as they claim the religions they leave are in the first place.

When atheists start criticizing Islam.

you know what I find ridiculous? fedora-ism.
why hasn't this idiot hanged himself yet?

Hello Ahmed, enjoying your free shit?

Semi related pic. What a world when random retards can take up people's time with shitposts

>implying I care about Islam

It's because atheism became part of the marxist shitfest and most people put it on because religion isn't progressive and doesn't fit their deranged leftist narrative. True atheists don't give a shit about religion as long as it stays a religion and doesn't turn into a destructive movement endangering the well-being of civilization.

Why aren't there any christians criticizing islam? Why do we have to rely on Based Pope of Atheism Dawkins?

kek

Atheism became part of Marxism because Jews hate Christianity and want it gone.

SHUT HIM DOWN

Man I feel bad for Dawkins.

>want a rational society
>help defeat Christianity
>people turn retarded and start importing a bunch of Muslims who are 100x worse

He biggest criticsof Islam, both in the west and in islamic countries, tend tl be atheists.

Get fucked.

bwahahahaha

Yea, it's really embarrasing when you compare the atheist pope to the christian pope. The atheist pope has more loyalty to the west than the christian one.

Fuck writing on a phone.

*kisses foot*

The story of Richard Dawkins -

>Christianity is ridiculous, it makes no sense and throughout history has oppressed people
>"haha yeah you're right, omg!"
>here, read some books I wrote on the subject, i'll enlighten you all
>"thanks Dawkins, you're the best, I don't have this god delusion, fuck religion and fuck christianity!!!"
>You're all welcome. You know what else is bad like Christianity? Islam! Especially because it's current day form is a lot more violent and oppressive than Christianity.
>"BOOOOO RACIST HOMOPHOBE PRIVILEGE I'M GOING TO BURN MY BOOKS OF YOURS REEEEEEEE"

...

user, didn't you know you can't be an atheist unless you're a feminist and LGBT ally?

LOL christians are such cucks. I can't believe they would do that.

*tips fedora*

Atheism isn't a movement it only describes an individual's answer to one specific metaphysical question.

He pledged himself to the scorn, disregard, and defeat of the one religion that historically has proven a cultural bulwark against Islam.

Now Islam is simply outbreeding and outgunning Dawkins' vision of an atheist utopia and it's too late for him or anyone to stop it.

I hope that thought haunts Dawkins to his last day on earth and follows him into the dark. Or the fires of hell. Take your pick.

youtube.com/watch?v=uSwJuOPG4FI
Lawrence krauss debating against islam in pakistan, balls of steel this guy

Hitchens did a bunch of stuff too
youtube.com/results?search_query=hitchens islam
In particular
youtube.com/watch?v=hxP_4O7MBTg

If the person thinks there is no current proof of God's or whatever existence, why would this person be ateist and not agnostic?I never got it.Cus it sounds more edgy?

It's also a movement

>If the person thinks there is no current proof of God's or whatever existence, why would this person be ateist and not agnostic?I never got it.Cus it sounds more edgy?

He would be an agnostic atheist.

Agnostic addresses the degree of certainty, atheist addresses belief

I lol'd

My feelings exactly.

criticizing Islam in the UK publicly, even with valid evidence, will lead to almost any professional losing their job. Blacklisted from the media etc

Only independents can get away with it.

Welcome to Orwell's hell.

What did you expect, take away decency and you're left with the modern retards. He got only himself to blame

If this quote is for real, that will probably happen

What are the aims of this movement? To proselytize atheism as the one true religion?

>What are the aims of this movement? To proselytize atheism as the one true religion?

It was a political movement to keep creationists out of schools and minimize religious influence over our secular government in America.

Actually, he's gone HARD against all 3 major semitic religions. Since always.

Example (from 2006):
youtube.com/watch?v=8nAos1M-_Ts

I still dislike him though. He can't apply the very evolutionary descriptions he came up with himself to religion. Religion, paraphrasing Jung, is an evolutive defense mechanism against schizophrenia. It was easier for our ancestors to survive when they believed in gods and shit, because if they tried to explain what was back then unexplainable, they went full cuckoo (though not as cuck as jewt), and it was harder for them to reproduce. In other words, a vast majority of our genetics is made of ancestors who had religion, and thus religion is imbued in our psyche.

This enters perfectly into Dawkins' The Selfish Gene and Nice Guys Finish First, but he will never accept it - hell, he'll never even consider it.

But other than the fact that he's too confrontational against a clear defense mechanism, he's overall right.

Because approximation. 99.9999999% is pretty much scientifically 100%.

He's been asked that same question time and time again in talks and interviews and shit, and his replies usually come to Russell's Teapot.

>Lawrence krauss debating against islam in pakistan, balls of steel this guy

Kek, that's actually UCL in London. Easy mistake to make.

He says the best use of Christianity is a defence against islam.

>atheism is one person

>atheism
>religion
Pick one

This is the same guy who btfo'd Lewonting and other race deniers and hates radfems.

He may be somewhat of a liberal cuck but he's the best of the bunch. Anyone who's almost gets excommunicated from his own movement for shitlordery is ok in my book. He should really take a closer look at some of his (((opponents))) though.

It's not. At least not in itself.

There is a movement built around atheism. Sure. But atheism is just the belief that there's no god or life after death or shit like that. That there's no metaphysics. Period.

The "atheist movement" is not atheism. It's fedoraism. No better than Jehova's Witnesses.

Lewontin

The only reason why it seems like it is because Christians get called a religous bigots if they speak out againsy other religions.

The "my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend" meme

>It's not. At least not in itself.

You're just trying to control the language. If you look at how the word is used, atheist is used to refer to people who are part of the atheist movement.

That's why all these christian faggots say atheists are fedoras. They're talking about the atheist movement.

They don't recognize the other usage as much.

...

The fact that you're used to misusing a term doesn't make your concept the right use for said term.

> When atheists start criticizing Islam.

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> atheists start criticizing Islam.

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> start criticizing Islam.

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> criticizing Islam.

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>The fact that you're used to misusing a term doesn't make your concept the right use for said term.

It's not about ME. It's neither about YOU and what you think.

It's about the common meaning of the word.

This, blue peru is based.

It's funny because he had a huge hand in creating a fanatical leftist atheist army bent on destroying christianity while (as leftists) simulataneously supporting mass immigration of Islam

its only that high in the brain of a fedora; there is no way to know every thing about life, the earth and the universe.

There are potentially millions of variables that affect the weather, have you heard any one seroiusly say they know 99.999999% certainty about weather?

if we aren't even sure about what we experience every day, we can't possibly speculate on what isn't seen with any real certainty.

It's impossible to escape religion. The brain is wired to follow some kind of tribal belief system that provides answers to everyday problems, cosmic questions, and defines right and wrong.

Atheists, regardless of what they say, follow the Progressive Peligion which evolved out of enlightenment ideas sprinkled with some cucky Christian morality and finally topped off and twisted with Jewish thinking.

That's amazing. I've never been sure how I feel about this guy.

>why is he the only one brave enough to roast Islam?
He's an autist. As a Catholic I respect him and pray for him. He's a guy that is free and tries to achieve truth to his better understanding. So he tries to understand Islam and says what he sees.

>It's not about ME. It's neither about YOU and what you think.
That's not what I meant.

OK. Let me rephrase it.

The fact that someone is, or even if lots of people are, used to misusing a term, doesn't make their concept the right use for said term.

"Atheism", again, is simply the belief that there's no metaphisics. What you're describing is not "atheism". It's "the atheist movement".

That's also the reason why "radical islam" can't be separated from simply "islam", because islam, amongst other things, is the belief that apostates should be stoned to death, that the full world should fall under Sharia law, and that if anyone refuses to convert, they should be taxed and heavily regulated by sharia law.

This is a fantastic torrent about Islam, by the way:
kat.cr/the-qur-an-oxford-world-s-classics-and-assorted-helpful-books-t12596978.html

It's not about "radical islam". It's about "islam", period. And it's quite clear what islam is about in those books.

Zizek would be great if he wasn't such a filthy commie.

He's probably the last traditional communist you will see. The only problem is the communist part.

Again, Rusell's Teapot. That's the name of the concept.

Read on it.

True. As I stated here, paraphrasing Jung That still doesn't mean atheism, by itself, is a movement. Because it's not. And once a movement is built around it, it turns toxic as fuck. It turns into fedoraism, which looks to simple atheists like Jehova's Witnesses looks to simple christians.

atheists don't criticeze jew, can't question the holocaust

He is reaping the seeds he sowed decades ago by persistently trying to bash Christianity out of western culture, now Islam is moving in to fill the void and his legions of liberal self-hating atheists have turned against him.

It's a stance he only embraces in the winter of his life, now that he's gotten a good hard look at the horizon and realizes what the implications of a future with Christianity in disrepute actually are.

Hitchens said (in a 2008 book review, of all things) that liberals would never be able to talk rationally about Islam because

1) They think Islam = poor brown people, meaning Islamophobia = racism.

2) They can't compete numerically with Muslims, who just keep breeding and making huge families while liberals, for obvious reasons, don't.

But he and Dawkins couldn't put aside their butthurt and their burning need for people to think they're the smartest men in the room, so most of their lives were spent going after Christianity because the easiest religion to mock is the one that doesn't blow you up for doing it.

Well, they got what they wanted. Nobody in the West takes Christianity seriously anymore.

But everyone takes Islam seriously. Oh, they take it very seriously. And no amount of Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett, Harris, Hirsi Ali, or any of their brood is going to change that.

Dawkins knows that. Too late and to his eternal shame does he understand the Christian faith he so despised was the only safeguard for the progress and civilization he was trying to protect. And now that the idea of a global caliphate has real purchase on his imagination, he's trying to swallow his pride and speak up for those poor Christians he picked on.

Too little, too late.

Fuck him.

Even he's starting to realise that he set his sights in the wrong direction.
breitbart.com/national-security/2016/01/12/professional-atheist-dawkins-says-christianity-bulwark-against-something-worse/

>hurr atheists are cucks

user, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

>Spend your life critisicing Christianism.
>Christianism is destroyed.
>Now, woah, what a surprise, Islam is taking Europe!!
>Richard JUSTkins.jpg.

Are you guys really going to give richard dawkins credit for the downfall of western civilization?

Is he really that powerful in your eyes?

He and another three cucks founded the gay cult known as New Atheism, influencing millions of naive children worldwide

What do you think?

There's nothing new about their arguments, so I fail to see why you homo's continue to call it new atheism. They just pointed out the elephant in the room that people seem to ignore, and it went mainstream in the mid 2000's.

Is one of the responsibles intellectuals that brough our civilization to this point. Brats, ignorants, and arrogant (and probably also autistic) people who never realize that if you destroy the religion of an ignorant group of people they won't turn atheist and they will embrace another religion.

It's like that Halloween episode in the Simpsons when Lisa makes the town get rid of their guns and they are inmediately invaded by zombies.

>not touching a poo for 20$
what a cuck

When it is no longer true.

Cause that's what it's called you dipshit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism#The_.22Four_Horsemen.22

>muh Sandler meme

Thanks for the chuckle.

Pope is kissing the qur'an and hugging Imams to make a "happier world". He's too busy.

It's because this shit religion belongs to a group of people who didn't inherit the blessed covenant with God. So if you criticize it for being shit, it's obviously a mark against those people, ergo 'racist'.

Also no one cares what atheists think, because they will perish without accepting God.

Darwin, yes. Dawkins is a joke. His arguments in the God Delusion aren't worth people posting here.

>OH YEAH? WELL, IF GOD MADE THE UNIVERSE, WHO MADE GOD? CHECKMATE, THEISTS!

Is literally his argument.

fucking idiots

>Glenn Greenwald,[66][67] Toronto-based journalist and Mideast commentator Murtaza Hussain,[66][67] Salon columnist Nathan Lean,[67] scholars Wade Jacoby and Hakan Yavuz,[68] and historian of religion William Emilsen[69] have accused the New Atheist movement of Islamophobia. Wade Jacoby and Hakan Yavuz assert that "a group of 'new atheists' such as Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens" have "invoked Samuel Huntington's 'clash of civilizations' theory to explain the current political contestation" and that this forms part of a trend toward "Islamophobia [...] in the study of Muslim societies".[68] William W. Emilson argues that "the 'new' in the new atheists' writings is not their aggressiveness, nor their extraordinary popularity, nor even their scientific approach to religion, rather it is their attack not only on militant Islamism but also on Islam itself under the cloak of its general critique of religion".[69] Murtaza Hussain has alleged that leading figures in the New Atheist movement "have stepped in to give a veneer of scientific respectability to today's politically useful bigotry".[66][70]

SJWs and progressives both think "new atheism" is "Islamophobic" for the same retarded reasons.

Congratulations, Sup Forums, you have allied yourselves with feminists and Jews.

who made god?

He was always there?

Why couldn't the universe just exist, then?

Fuck off with your anti-Christian relativist bullshit m8

The only real shield from the jew is He Whom they have slain in cold blood

>Fucking asshole responsible for the deviation of cultural values that lead to the situation of europe being overrun by the muslim hordes complains about the depth of the grave he dug.

Fuck him and every one like him. Hope he ends up enriched.

I agree with blue Nigeria

We may like this guy on Sup Forums and he may be the fedora god, but none of what he says matters because he's fucking a white male even as we speak, and you know how folks react to that these days.

Smart atheists inevitably focus most of their criticism on Islam.
Sure you might start out lashing out at Christians for not baking gay wedding cakes or Creationists for coming up with batshit theories on why Earth is only 6,000 years old. Then you realize it's a dead horse, and those people don't hold any real power or authority to impose their views, and don't pose any real threat to civilization.
So you look at who the real enemy is and it's hard not to conclude that it's Islam. Sure, since we're on Sup Forums I guess we can say the Jews, but just about every atheist criticism of Christianity already applies to Judaism, so it's technically a dead horse and zionist conspiracy theories aren't exclusive to atheism. Islam on the other hand, is a terribly flawed and brutal doctrine with a dangerous, violent following, neither of which deserve any place in the modern world.

Absolutely inane.

You have, actually, by using the term "islamophoboa".

Phobias are irrational fears.

Now you're just the autistic guy.

Oh here we fucking go

Atheism became a religion

Team A: We are true atheists
Team B: No, we are the true atheists

What about those who don't congregate nor, much worse, proselytize?

And again, there's "atheism" and then there's "atheist movements". Two completely different things.

>can't question the holocaust


so being an atheist also means i have to be a conspiracist?

>London and Pakistan have become indistinguishable

Oh God, oh dear fucking God.

I watched Root of All Evil? yesterday.

He includes judaism and islam yeah but the 75% of the show is shitting on christians.

Funny how the american evangelist brought up the islamization of europe for a moment. Hope this twat remembers how retard he was 10 years ago shitting all over christians when he should have focused in subhuman muslims.

He learned in the hard way.

You guys don't really think that muslims were waiting all this time for Christianism to become less hip to start immigrating en masse, right?

If they're all coming now is because our leaders are cucks, not because this guy made a few documentaries shitting on Christianity a decade ago.

So you're saying all atheist are believers in denial since you claim the brain is hardwired to believe in god. Isnt that some twisted way of claiming the high ground. Where i'm from, the contrary would be expected. That believers are atheist in denial simply hoping for the world to be more than it is.

Not him, but as you might be able to see, we share that opinion.

No, that's not what that means. It means that your brain is hardwired to believe and worship in - something -. So it's not that we believe in god in secret, or that we're in denial. In my case, for example, if I could be a christian, I'd be one. It's much easier. But I can't, because religion, metaphisics and shit simply has no logic, and I studied logic in college and apply it every day at work.

So we atheists are missing something. We have a hole in our psyche. The whole where our religious beliefs are. And we unconsciously fill it with other kinds of zealotism. Then come the atheistic kike communists that ruined Europe in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and the fedoras of today, who act like the worst fundies ever while still not believing in God.

In my case, I'm a hardcore weeaboo. I filled my time with chinese cartoons when I lost my religion while growing up, and little by little started worshiping them more and more. First it was only the cartoons themselves, then the VAs, then the studios and directors, then the animators... and for the past half a decade I've been heavily into japanese idols (mainly the 48 group, but the first group I followed hard was Momoiro Clover, before Akari quit and they went major) too.

The difference is, I know I'm being scammed by the japanese otaku industry, whereas fedoras and religious people, and even worse, the fucking mystics, don't know.

Prove that with more than anecdotes and meaningless conjecture. What is your evidence?

Are you unironically saying that otakus are the same as Christians?
For real?

>tfw you touch poop every single day