Stop listening to jazz.
Stop listening to jazz
Wyatt Richardson
Dylan Mitchell
Fuck you, dead man.
Christopher Reyes
he's toothpicking at us
Isaiah Jackson
Fuck you, Captain Tom.
Thomas Diaz
Fuck you, Nico.
Thomas Murphy
These punk kids are human garbage, real losers
Ethan Evans
>those dubs
damn...
Jordan Myers
Lou Reed loved Ornette Coleman
He was also friends with Patti Smith.
Austin Bailey
"Jazz serves a cultural function in the music scene. It is a signifier for musical "adulthood." To embrace jazz is to don a kind of graduation cap, signifying a broadening of tastes outside "mere" rock music. This ostentatious display of "sophistication" is an insult, and I find the graduation cappers transparent and tedious. Certainly there must be interesting music one could call "jazz." There must be. I've never heard it, but I grant that it is out there somewhere.
Jazz has a non-musical parallel: Christiania, the "free" zone in Copenhagen. In Christiania, like in jazz, there is no law. People are left to their own inventions to create and act as they see fit. In Jazz, the musicians are allowed to improvise over and beside structural elements that may themselves be extemporaneous. Sounds good, doesn't it? Freedom -- sounds good.
The reality is much bleaker. Christiania is a squalid, trashy string of alleys with rag-and-bone men selling drugs, tie-dye and wretched food. Granted Total Freedom, and this is what they've chosen to do with it, sell hash and lentil soup? Jazz is similar. The results are so far beneath the conception that there is no English word for the dissappointment one feels when forced to confront it. Granted Total Freedom, you've chosen to play II V I and blow a goddamn trill on the saxophone? Only by willfully ignoring its failings can one pretend to appreciate it as an idiom and don the cap."
John Johnson
>hates jazz
>makes corny jazzy esc music in Rock and Roll Heart
>BA BAM BADDADA DA DA
What did Lou mean by this?
David Edwards
Sorry prick I can't hear you underneath all that dirt.
Dominic Murphy
AW (you) SHOULDN'T DO THAT
CUZ YOU KNOW YOULL STAIN THE CARPET
Jaxon Smith
> misattributing an Albini quote to Lou Reed
I literally don't see your motivation in misleading people like that. You're literally doing something damaging and destructive by doing that.
Here's Lou with Ornette: youtube.com
I grew up on rock, specifically punk, music. When I was a teen I dismissed jazz as pretentious, meaningless, meandering, unrewarding music. Then when I was 19 or 20 I was really into experimental music, first with no wave and industrial stuff, then that led me to modern classical, and then I decided modal and free jazz were a necessary extension. So I explored Ornette, and I really liked Coltrane's A Love Supreme. But I still found the genre less powerful for me than rock, so it sat in the background.
Then, a few years later I randomly came across Mingus' Let My Children Hear Music, and it absolutely blew my mind. I loved it. It was as good or better than any rock album I'd ever heard. I ripped through the bebop people, which I quickly realized I also loved - people like Art Blakey and his entourage (Wayne Shorter, Lee Morgan, Pete La Roca), as well as Django Reinhardt, an obvious predecessor to that stuff. Now I love jazz, and it's as indespensible to me as the rock music I grew up with.
Like any music, you need to wade through and find the stuff you respond to. People who dismiss jazz, hip hop, or any other major genre haven't tapped into and found the best, most skillful stuff. That even holds true for people like Albini and Scruffy, both of whom have demonstrated such weaknesses.
Jose Lopez
He didn't mean anything by that because he's a jazz fan.
You kids are fucking hopeless.
Ryder Stewart
>what is irony
I've still accomplished more in death than you ever will in lfe
Give this guy a dingdong
Wyatt Ramirez
coworkers play jazz records for 10 hours a day and i hate all of it, it's totally contrived trash.
Roomates play rap constantly, all varieties and eras. Rap is abhorrent, completely cringe inducing and for those of us who have studied music it appears vapid, void of artistic merit. How any serious music fan can defend modern rap and it's elementary, formulaic production is beyond me
Jace Young
Either your co-workers and roommates have terrible taste, or you do. Either way, you seem unpleasant, and you should know Lou Reed isn't on your side on this.
If you're into rock, imagine if your roommates just played Limp Bizkit all day, and that was the only rock music you heard. You'd probably say you hated rock. If you're into classical, imagine if your coworkers just constantly played the Star Wars soundtrack, and that was the only classical you heard. You'd probably get sick of it.
Luke Watson
Based Albini.
Jeremiah Murphy
I'm gonna leave you with a couple great jazz albums, and a couple strong hip hop tracks (though admittedly entry level hip hop, since I'm no aficionado):
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
Jack Parker
They play all different artists who are well renowned in both jazz and rap, it's just low quality music now get that through your thick skull you moron. Besides you enjoy punk, you have no gravitas when it comes to musical analysis
Xavier Morgan
You honestly don't seem very bright. But okay, I'll leave you be in your hateful, scared misery.
Also, "well renowned" isn't a phrase. It's either "well known" or "renowned," pick one.
Caleb Brown
Yeah, i've got better things to do than waste my time and subject myself to noise pollution.
Excuse the redundancy, English is my second language. Fuck off and leave my thread, retreat to your ivory tower of superior taste you pretentious cretin
David Johnson
So you're too closed off to even try something new.
> "no gravitas when it comes to musical analysis"
> "ivory tower of superior taste
You seem to be confusing yourself.
Also, this is the internet. Nobody's going to do what you say just because you whine at them.
I'm enjoying this whole dynamic of trolling hateful, angry idiots with sincerity. I recommend it.
Christopher Williams
Everything is jazz
Ian Johnson
>idiot
>fluent in multiple languages
> "no gravitas when it comes to musical analysis"
> "ivory tower of superior taste
Do you have no comprehension of English prose? any sense of irony? Are you actually the idiot here behind your pseudointellectual veil? The fact that you are continuing to bother replying when you've been outed as fraud tells me that firstly you don't have any value for your time and are probably a lowlife and secondly you have a grossly inflated ego.
Luis Reed
No. Fuck you.
James Morris
> Do you have no comprehension of English prose?
> "pseudointellectual veil"
> "any sense of irony"
Oh the fucking irony in this very post is fucking amazing!
I haven't said anything pretentious, I don't think. I just tried to demonstrate the appeal of these genres. Your butthurt is glorious, though.