People who regurarly tip, when was the last 0 tip and why?

People who regurarly tip, when was the last 0 tip and why?

unless somebody literally shit in your food, a 0 tip is just a dick move. if you're unsatisfied with the food or service, only tip 10%. they don't make shit as is

Yesterday because people here earn enough without tips

Good service + bad food = tip
Good service + good food = extra tip
Bad service + bad foot = no tip
bad service + good food = no tip

>if people are shit at their job that they're already paid to do, give them more money

when i went to europe many places were giving high hourly salary to their employee so we hadnt to tip which i find really nice

This. Sometimes, I don't have enough extra cash to tip more than 10%, but it's always at least that much. And I always give the pizza guy a couple bucks extra, especially in the winter.

A hypothetical situation:

I come to your restaurant and order a steak, a glass of wine and some creme brulee for dessert. You refill my wine glass once and check in on me once during the meal. Total bill $100 expected tip $20.

Another customer comes to your restaurant and sits right next to me. She orders a salad, a glass of water and a bowl of ice cream for dessert. You refill her water once and check in on her once during the meal. Total bill $10 expected tip $2.

What did you do for me that required me to provide a 900% higher tip?

Here are some handy ‘tips’ that you can use to not pay someone extra for just doing their job.

When on a date:

You’ll need a credit card for this one. When the bill comes they always give you two receipts, the store copy and your copy. On your copy write in a big tip in full view of your date; I like to do 50-90% for effect. You can play it up “What’s a good tip? $40?”. Now, here’s where you need to do a little slight of hand. On the store copy write the word CASH in the tip line as if you left a cash tip. This way, you also fuck with the waiter, who wonders if someone stole the cash you supposedly left for him. This has the added bonus of creating mistrust among the waitstaff and could lead to violence. Add to that, no waiter will post your receipt online to shame you, because it indicates that a tip was left. finally when leaving, feign forgetting something at the table and pull the old switch-a-roo.

When at a bar:

Here’s a great way to get excellent service and strong drinks all night long… Bring a lot of small denomination bills, $5s and $10s. The trick here is to pay after every serving and get back some ones. Leave those ones on the bar, not so far out that the bartender would be bold enough to take them, but far enough that there is no doubt that you are leaving them as a tip. As the night goes on and that stack grows, you’ll see your service and the quality of your drinks increase. At the end of the night simply pick up your change and leave.

$2.33 base pay when i was waiting tables years ago. they give bad service, give them a fuckin break. you're probably at an applebees or some other place where all they do is serve degenerates all day. oh no you bumped up their hourly rate to barely minimum rage. for shame.

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In General:

Guesstimate on the cost of the meal before you go. Get a Visa prepaid card with just a few dollars over the expected value. When it comes time to tip be super generous. When you are billed out the tip isn't run through until the end of the shift. You've already paid for the meal on the card, but the tip won't be able to post since there isn't enough left to cover it; you can then go can spend the last few dollars on the card on penny whistles and moonpies comfortable in the knowledge that you didn't pay a societal leech for simply doing their job.

Good service + bad food = no tip
Good service + good food = no tip
Bad service + bad foot = no tip
bad service + good food = no tip
extraordinary service + extraordinary food = tip

Cuck
When somebody shit or spit in the food you don't pay anything or If it's so disgusting you don't want to eat it You pay nothing
When the foods just nothing special you tip zero

I don't tip. If you want more money, get a better job.

stop tipping them and let their employer pay them more

so u fuck over the waiter for the shitty food? makes sense

careful we got an edgelord

Or maybe I'm in a country where employers pay employees rather than getting customers to do it for them

yeah a couple of btards not topping is going to change the entire landscape of food service in america. good plan

I never tip money, but I always make sure to tip my fedora.

Bong here, how are your pubs quiet enough to just leave notes lying about on the bar?

some people have to start. don't be a pussy

Technically I tipped nothing once in my life, but I actually just walked out

She came to take the order. Drinks were brought by a different person. Food by another different person. Ask a random employee walking by for the check. No one comes. Waitress at a table across from us takes their order. Ask her for our check or waitress... 20 more minutes with no check.

We just walked out. I seriously think our waitress hit the end of her shift and just went home

I worked at restaurant (in canada) and from what i understood people who serve you get tax on the number of people they served per year.
Literally means the government is taxing your tips. thats why its better to leave tip in cash rather than credit/debit

Tips should just be a flat $2 regardless of price or place.

You can turn over four tables an hour netting you eight bucks an hour. Increase the speed of your service and you can make more. That's about spot on for menial labor.

Fun fact, a lot of higher end restaurants are adding 20% non-negotiable tips to the bills now

If I tip it's only by credit card. At the servers wages you are already a leech on society. No need to let you be more of one by not paying taxes.

This

ordered black coffee
got coffee with 2 creams and 2 sugars (told to me by waitress when asking why i didn't get black coffee)
she said she did it because black coffee is so boring and wanted me to have an exciting start of my day
i got up to the counter and poured myself some black coffee after she walked off and left my previous cup of coffee there
i think she likes me, but i dont have the time for relationships with work and school
i only come to that diner because it's closer, quieter, and coffee is free

clueless

100% agree. Tips are a GRATUITY. Should I be grateful you just did your job? No. Go above and beyond and I'll happily toss in a tip. If not, don't be shocked when you see the word NONE in big block letters on the tip line.

Agreed. Even a terrible server can turn over 8 an hour. $16 / hour for a job that requires no education is pretty good in my book.

fuck off

The waiters can fuck off
I go to a restaurant to eat good, not to be served like a king
If there would be self service restaurants with actual chefs that cook good food and that don't have the atmosphere of a Macdonalds I would love to eat there
Would you really pay food that was shat into?

I've never finished a whole meal and not tipped.

Once or twice walked out because of bad service, but that's all.

>$16 / hour for a job that requires no education is pretty good in my book.
You think 32,000 a year is "pretty good"? What kind of low life losers do you associate with that 32k a year is anything other than dam near poverty level?

I make 13k and I have everything i need

You aren't supposed to make a career of being a waiter. It's a job that requires zero education. Why would you expect more?

Lol, yea, living with mommy and daddy must be real rough.

13k a year isnt even enough to pay just rent on a roach infested studio apartment in a major city

Yesterday I went to Denny's with a couple buddies. We didn't even get food, just a cup of coffee and I got a slice of pecan pie.

It took nearly three quarters of an hour to get service and another 20 minutes to get our order. 20min for the order isn't that big of a deal, but they weren't even busy, nevermind the rationale that they needed something near an hour to get ready for our order.

Only tip whites and never tip at any chain restaurants

A person with low level of education

A job is a job. You dont get to decide what is or isnt a career for someone because you feel superior

Yeah fuck gout!

>What kind of low life losers do you associate with that 32k a year is anything other than dam near poverty level?

Waiters and waitresses.

That's far more than many much harder jobs in let's say construction

Ahhh I see. So people who didnt go to college should just fall off the earth and die?

I overtip and need to stop

My last trip was 2 bucks

No its not. I was a plumbers laborer in college and I made $19 an hour 15 years ago

Writing the word none is insulting. As a server, I don't mind getting stiffed because it just happens, but don't put none or an exaggerated zero. Shits annoying. When that happens it makes me feel like I gave bad service even if I gave good service. Just a line through the tip or a normal ass zero tells me that you just didn't tip me and I move on.

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Or learn a trade
Or do something that is atleast a tiny bit productive?
What do you expect doing a job everyone could just do himself?

no but they shouldn't expect to live large.
if your job requires very little skill you can't expect to be payed well.

>13k a year isnt even enough to pay just rent on a roach infested studio apartment in a major city
I live in a small town of about 15,000 people, and 13k isn't enough for a small apartment even here. I mean, you could probably make it work, but you'd have next to nothing left after rent+utilities.

I find it funny for decades Americans were fooled into thinking they had to subsidize the wage for waiting staff instead of the owner of the food place.

It took them 50 years before people started to complain and get rid of mandatory in most states.

Do people tip the plumber?
Do people tip the electrician?
Do people tip the hot dog guy standing in the rain?

And many more, funny how people don't see tipping them is normal, but shitty waiting staff inside bars and restaurants should get tips.

Americans are that fucking dumb.

Construction is also over run with non-english speaking illegals which greatly devalue the job. The guys who came to install my windows couldnt understand a word of enlish. I had to point at shit and they still didnt get it. I ended up having to call my salesman and have him send someone out who could actually understand what I was saying

>What do you expect doing a job everyone could just do himself?

Then they can stay home, and do it themselves. I fully support restaurants charging mandatory 20% tips on bills. If you want to go out, great. Dont be a poor nigger.

There is a reason no one likes niggers in the service industry. They are cheaper than jews and just dont tip.

Depends on food and service, if both are great, I'll tip generously. If service is good but food is a little off, small tip.

If service is shit, I walk out and don't pay a thing.
>but that's illegal
Faggots with no reputation bite the sour apple and pay for trash because nobody respects or fears them. Last thing a restaurant owner wants to do is piss off a big shot like me.

I build houses that cost hundreds of thousands of dollaes.
Imagine if I demanded a 20% gratuity on the houses that I built

>Do people tip the hot dog guy standing in the rain?
I would, if he's out there in the rain, he deserves a little extra.

Do it.
Say it is mandatory.

>Last thing a restaurant owner wants to do is piss off a big shot like me.

.Many, many years ago my gf and I ate in a restaurant I had been a regular at for over ten years. We both appeared very youthful despite the fact we were both well into our late 20s and professionals.
>A new waitress was assigned to our table in a very crowded place (they had a bar, it was friday night). When Fred, an old friend of mine and owner, showed us to the table he told her to be sure to take care of Mr. user.
>She began to repeatedly and in a very condescending way keep referring to me as Mr. user. Like, "Oh, what can I get for you Mr. user?, Is it too late for you to be out Mr. user?" This wasn't entirely horrible but my gf was pretty perturbed. She likes being treated with respect.
>Then she takes our order. An hour later, after having never heard from her again, we ask about our order. She forgot to put it in. When it finally comes 45 minutes later we eat, she disappears again after we had asked for a couple of things like drink refills etc. She doesn't return for another 45 minutes.
>Then, and this is what kicked of the lack of tip. Then, she sees my gf had not finished all of her gnochhi and proceeds to berate her as if she were a child about not finishing all of her food. This is bad enough but then she picks up her spoon, grabs a gnochhi and tries to feed it to her, forceably. My gf was irate but she has a way of keeping calm in instances like this. We give her our card and 25 minutes later she comes back. We leave, very angry, through the back by the kitchen. As we are leaving she chases us to the door and demands to know why we didn't tip her (we did, only it was 13 cents to round the dollar). My gf tells her unequivacolly that her service was the worst service in history and walks away. On the way out we see Maria, sister of Fred and also owner. She asks how it was, she was not ready for the response. She has known me a long time and know I wouldn't say anything unless it was important. We never did see that waittress there again.

Oh but I can't cook like a chef
I can just take my dish to the table
When there is a mandatory tip for service there should be a no service option

A waitress isnt "living large" in any sense of the word even with tips. I think the real issue here is most of Sup Forums has no idea what things in the world cost because they havent ever had to pay for much of anything in their life.

"$16 an hour is good money" proves it. $16 dollars an hour pays for half of my rent a month. No car payment, no bills or utilities. Half of my rent.

>Do people tip the plumber?
>Do people tip the electrician?
>Do people tip the hot dog guy standing in the rain?

Yes, yes, and yes. You also tip the carwash guy, the hotel runner, the valet driver... if it is a "service" job, you most certainly tip

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If the food is shit, it's not the server's fault.

When the server puts in the wrong order then accused me of being the one that ordered something different, got the manager involved too, before finally getting my order in. Then ghosted my table leaving drinks unfilled and only came back once more to give the check.

That's the last time I gave a zero tip and even that was generous in my eyes.

You do, its called your profit margin

Exactly he deserves it for braving the weather, but some skanky redneck bitch wants 20% of your meal total in a shitty BBQ joint.

Fucking stupid.

Same with Pizza/Chinese delivery drivers, they rely on tips too.

In the UK, well in Scotland, Drivers add their fee on top of the price, avg being £2 for delivering to you (further away you live they add 50p per x miles), so $3.50 say per meal.

So if they deliver 5 meals in 1hr, they made $17.50 for that one hour, if they deliver more they get more.

But in America, nahh they get what $2 per hour from the owner, and hope tips happen.

tipping is a load of shit. i never tip. the company is responsible for its workers wages. the customer has already paid and shouldn't have to pay more. it's just a little gimmick try try and squeeze as much money out of everyone as they can. fuck tipping. it should be banned.

You do and that is nice of you, but how many people actually do though?

That is called counter service and is defined as fast casual. Mandatory gratuity is told to you up front. If you dont like that, there is a McDonalds down the street.

>Same with Pizza/Chinese delivery drivers, they rely on tips too.

They all charge delivery fees. Don’t get suckered into tipping them twice. The restaurant has already included the tip for you.

The majority of people who were raised properly by non nigger and non jewish parents.

Just like it is the restaurant's profits on the meal you buy?

I used to work in an auto repair shop that did that. They'd tack on an extra %10 for "miscellaneous shop fees", and at the end of each month, all that extra money got split up between all of us technicians. Until the owner got sued over it and had to pay almost half a million dollars. After that, the shop got sold to someone else, and I had to survive on my base pay of $26 an hour.

I'm not tipping one time for every entitled server I see in this thread

The delivery fee goes to the restaurant, not the driver

Angry kid

That's not my concern. I'm paying a gratuity for delivery. Who it goes to is not my problem.

The restaurants profits have nothing to do with how much the waitress earns. Food service is actually an insanely low margin business. Most restaurants would sell their soul for a 8% profit margin

why can't the employer just pay a fair salary? he seems to be the niggerest of them all.

Except it is a fee, not a gratuity.

Again, how is that my concern. I'm paying extra where it goes is between the driver and the owner. Not me.

Last tip I gave was on the 19th February 2009, I tipped £2.40

I work as a pizza delivery driver, and my coworkers (as well as many delivery drivers everywhere) take their time or deliver last to an address that gave them no tips, even though the service was great.

They are. How much should you make for a job anyone can do?

It should, since the profits are meant to pay the staff of the place, it pays the cooks/chefs right? why not waiting staff?

In the UK waiting staff are paid well.

In Japan waiting staff are paid well with no tips.

In Germany, France, Spain, Australia, etc they all get a normal wage.

Remember it was the owner who hired the waiting staff not the customers.

Because then people would flip the fuck out when the formerly $18 meal is suddenly $47. People would come out of the woodwork about how its not affordable to go out anymore, how families cant afford evenings out anymore

Look at the shitstorm that came up when Seattle raised their minimum wage and restaurants started tacking on "minimum wage fees" . You are paying for it one way or another. Would you like to tip? Or would you like to me increase the price of your meal 400%?

LOL. I have little fear that some burner who can't get a job anywhere else if going to remember me (or remember to put a note in the computer after coming back).

Except once again, its not "paying extra" Its the price. There is no extra anywhere in this conversation.

Never, because I'm not a human dumpster fire.

If you work 40 hours a week... enough to afford to live in the area, pay bills, eat, and save for retirement. A job is a job. Everyone no matter how "useless" you think they are, should be able to survive without being hungry and homeless

Because, every time anyone talks about raising minimum wage in this country, people lose their shit and start calling it "socialism", and "it'll make the price of everything go up", as if it doesn't already do that, along with whatever other autistic nonsense they can think of, so it never gets very far. Most employers in the service industry and manufacturing won't pay more than minimum wage unless they're forced to.

Fuck that. I know servers. If your not clearing 10/hr in tips you need a different job cause you suck.

Are you a fucking nitwit. It's going to go up 20% at most (and probably 10% to keep customers happy). They aren't going to pay menial laborers $25 / hour. You'll get $10-12 hour tops.

This is why waiters and waitresses flip out when this is proposed, since they know they will take home less and have to actually pay taxes on everything they make.

I'd gladly pay $22 over $20 to not have to deal with tipping.

a mandatory tip wouldn't even be a tip you genius
Also I don't come from Burgerland you cucked scum
There is no difference between higher prices upfront or "mandatory tip"
Can you not see this?
It would be just a trick to make the food appear cheaper

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Your numbers are wrong as most waitstaff in the US make around $2 an hour. Even paying them minimum wage would be a 400% increase in labor costs... which also increase the FICA taxes the employer has to pay.

Some jobs are not made for that. Fast food, barrestia, server are jobs you have in high school and college so you can have money for gas and beer.

I see you never ran a business, that would never happen in real life for a start, that $18 meal will easily be 50% profit at least.

It's all about turnover, you have more people ordering, you are doing well, if you have a semi-quiet night you are still doing well and can still pay your staff.

If you have a bad week or month, they still have to pay their staff even if it is a loss. That is a nature of most businesses, some are affected by seasonal times. So they have to prepare for the months of losses, and that means keeping a good part of their great profits they had previously.

So when places only pay staff very little, they are making even more, shit they can pay the cooking staff easily, they can easily do a couple of waiting staff also.

In the UK again, Restaurants and Bars are not overpriced, and yet can pay Taxes, VAT and salaries. Why? Because they aren't as greedy as the owners in the US.