We know that there is intersectionality between homosexuality, bisexuality, paedophilia, beastiality, voyeurism...

We know that there is intersectionality between homosexuality, bisexuality, paedophilia, beastiality, voyeurism, all "degenerate" acts.

But what I'm interested in is the cause of all this? How do Sup Forums's resident perverts explain their interests and behaviour? Childhood trauma, porn addiction? Not hating, just genuinely curious.

Answer below.

fucked up deformity of their brains.

freedom

Smoking weed causes homosexuality. I'm almost sure.

So you think that these interests are simply just repressed by more modest people and that it's completely normal?

I think it's probably just that gay people happen to want to escape their lives through drugs.

I fuck what I want to because we're all destined for death, and death really doesn't pick and choose shit.

As for what causes it on Sup Forums... I'd just generalize, and say half of 'em are in it for attention while half just want to fuck what they want to fuck.

They are smoking it for some time BEFORE start acting gay.

So with the death of God and nihilism you simply want to live a life of hedonistic sensation?

Do you have personal experience with this?

Lets just ignore pedophilia, necrophilia, and beastiality in heterosexual people then, just so you can keep your bigoted world views. Prick.

With weed - yes, with hmosexuality no. But I have been observing these smokers becaming gay for a long time.

>We know
Proof?

By your logic you will turn gay too.

Well, Freud thought that sexual attraction starts with the kids at a young age. Specifically kids are attracted subconsciously to their mothers. And he thought that kids were at odds with their fathers as a sort of Oedipus complex as kids claim the mother as "theirs". Then you have things such as penis envy in women and the Id, ego and super-ego in men. Freud thought that sexual acts in individuals was a way of their true self manifesting through sex

I'm happily switched to heroin before it happened.

You dodged a bullet there.

But let us please not forget how terribly wrong Freud was in these things...

I have personal observations of a fluidity of sexuality occuring in fetish lifestyles and on internet forums, also, 33 percent of caught paedophiles supposedly identify as gay despite their population figures being less than 10 percent of the general population - so there is a suspected trend, but that still doesn't call for discrimination tho.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

This and yeah, Freud's been debunked for many things

I think the correct assumption to make is that NOT all gay people are pedophilic zoophiles, but pedophiles/zoophiles are more accepting of sexual taboos like homosexuality.

He is not "wrong", he is just not scientifically accurate, but we adapt to our surroundings based on our presuppositions of reality, so preaching freud to people will allow them to internalise his method.

Basically, he is correct to people who think he is, objectivity is a false metric of value here, concerning psychology.

So this shouldn't be "WE" but "I".
Shrink wannabe

I feel like homosexuality is of a lesser standard of scrutiny so I would say that accepting paedophilia presupposes an acceptance and so possible indulgence in homosexuality, and yes, not all gay people are so far down that rabbit hole, of course.

ok, fucking speg boy triggered over semantics.

>He is not "wrong"
>just not scientifically accurate

he was fucking wrong about most shit, you utter spastic. read up about the cunt. he was a fucking lunatic that should have been in a mental health facility himself.

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Let us not forget that most of the time, Freud was also coked out of his mind. He was high as fuck.

Psychology is a pseudo-science in all modes of it's application and assessment, we are still evolving culturally accepted models of it, claiming that psychoanalysis doesnt have any place in our perception of our mentality is ignorant to the subjectivity of psychology

We're drugged by the government and corporations basically all the time through food and water, but explicit drug use is stigmatised for some reason, we're all as sane as we see ourselves to be.

Those who hate on Freud for having been wrong about some things can have a word when they've created something as grand as psychoanalysis and made fewer mistakes. Miserable cunts.

I'm a theist and I still admit that Freud was a genius, even though atheists are intellectually inferior to theists.

This.

well psychoanalysis is almost spiritual to me, how much of an enigma our "animal" mind really is, it opens up a whole new dimension of understanding and humanity for me.

Psychologist =/= psychiatrist =/= psychoanalyst
Freud wasn't a psychologist.
(thought I'd help you a little)

Yes, but Freud was an avid cocaine user. And while it was socially acceptable back then (cocaine was not illegal yet) and some did tout it's health benefits, he was a doctor who was high giving advice to patients. Nowadays he would lose his license because we know more about the effects of cocaine use

Neither psychiatrist he was. I think that a for of psychoanalysis should replace entire psychiatry. (As well as psychology which never was a thing).

What effects does cocaine have except addiction? How does it impair comprehension?

> a form

Freud used it as a pain killer. He used it for headaches and migraines and it helped him concentrate. He felt it made him think More clearly but in reality it was just the high that he got from doing it.

Yes well a very modern revelation Freud made was the nature of sexuality and the elimation of sexual morality from western culture as a result, which I'm sure has and would further liberate people from their shame and guilt, which is extremely therapeutic.

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You people need to understand some very pragmatic things, which no one tells you but actual readers of psychoanalytic literature find out for themselves, if they have the intellect for it.

Pschiatry is mainly aimed at managing(!) mental disorders. There are very few people who can succesfully "cure" severe mental disorders. "cure" is in " " because usually, severe mental abnormalities are perfectly normal reactions to abnormal circumstances and traumas. Psychiatry is aimed at managing these, not perfectly curing them.

Psychologists can't prescribe drugs, they are not doctors. They ask for your money in exchange for the help they provide. Most of them are not sufficiently knowledgeable and ask for as much money as they can. Some of them do more harm than good.

Psychoanalysis is a method, or an approach which involves theories and actual practices. Both psychiatrists and psychologists can be trained in psychoanalyis.

>basically he is correct to people who think he is
Well, duh.
>objectivits is a false metric of value here, conerning psychology
His theories have been falsified if that pleases you autist.

"falsified" how? In a literal sense of the lack of penis envy? The traits he found from a result of these primordial theories still occur, he was symbolising commnality amongst patients.

Anything else than being ok with your sex/gender and being heterosexual is a birth defect or mental illness. Its as easy as that.

Yeah, I'm asking what may cause these mental illnesses, not attempting to categorise them.

Its either a defect by birth, and thus a deformation or just abuse as a child. So your initial thought is correct. Nothing more to it tbh.

Let me be more specifc. He has done a great deal of great work concerning psychoanalysis, and methods still used in the psychologies. Yet there has also been much harm done by his theories that have later been falsified. Specifically I am talking about his theory on homosexuality since this is the threads topic. While he realised trying to cure homosexuality wasn't helpful his idea of where it came from was wrong.

I do

Was hetero as you could be till I was about 21 and had been smoking for a few years. It started as a taboo and became something I deliberately trained my brain to like while smoking. Now I'm a sissyfag and bi and get horny every time I smoke. True story

Are you seriously believing this tho

Yes. The human race, just as any other animal, is supposed to produce offspring. If you cant provide offspring as to whatever reason ever, youre a deformity or mentally ill.

I think I have read a paper once where lesbian behaviours were linked to an overproduction of testosterone in women - so i guess most "deviations" are rooted in brain physiology in one way or the other. Might be paranoia but the recent surge in "trans" people might also be due to environmental factors like triazines and estrogens which get into the environent as byproducts of agriculture and industrial processes. Of course this only ever became a problem after it became socially acceptable to be a fucking trans-faggot.

Might wanna read up on this whole theme on the NCBI my man, lots of publications are listed there.

So since you see us as animals and apply the same psychology from us onto them, do you think that an animal that has been trauamtised could likewise deviate from being cishet and become trans and homosexual?

So you think that the acceptance of trans people has caused hormonal disruption to manifest itself psychologically into transsexualism? Or do you just hate trans people irrationally?

We are animals, my dude.
There are over 100 animals that are reported to have homosexual relationships. Either to reproduce and let their species survive, or because of defects.

Trannys arent only caused by hormonal disruption, but also by defects in their brain. Trannys brains are reported to be more like their counterpart. So a ftm tranny has a brain that is more simiar to that of a male, and the other way around.

That's a retarded conclusion to jump to

So transsexuals are legitimate, biologically? They have a rational basis of their behaviour?

Pedophiles, necrophiles and bestiality is not heterosexuality.

If you are sexually attracted to anything other than females of-age then you fall into a different definition than heterosexual.

"freedom" implies that we are repressing these sexualities, since the lack of barriers resulting in "freedom" would lead to the fetishes described.

Actually gay people escape their lives through AIDS

so hebephilia is not heterosexuality despite incels trying to tell me that males have a fixed interest of young teen girls? They are hebephiles not hetero?

its inescapable, really, unclean heroin needles or getting fucked in the ass unprotected, its a dangerous lifestyle.

Even if its legitimate its wrong. This shit is not supposed to happen. If your braing is laid out to be a dude, even though youre born a chick, youre just a failed product.

Look, they exist, okay. You shoukld be able to tolerate extreme minorities, otherwise you're equally a failed product

They would be hebephiles.
Or hebephiliacs? w/e

Nibba, youre talking to a tranny here.

Of course if you like girls that are within YOUR OWN age and you are young yourself it's impossible to know if you are degenerate until the age gap makes it clear.

ditto

You would be classified as a temporary hebephile, I suppose.

Sure, trannys shall be tolerated. Doesnt change the fact that its a birth defect, a mental illness, and wrong by normal standards. Therefore its degeneracy.
If you think its not youre wrong.

Normal standards are changing all the time, its fine.

Cowardice: they are afraid to live a noble life.
Laziness: it's easier to be a degenerate than it is to be a well-developed human being.
Ignorance: they lack understanding of why it is necessary and desirable to live a proper life.

If a society accomidates degeneracy, then why is it wrong to exploit that platform?

Just heathens who want to do everything in their own twisted way. Its like back in 6th grade theres always that kid who was obsessed with being "different" but the degenerate didnt grow up. Literally all of there people ive met are just wanting to be weird for the sake of "oh normal sex is socio normative cis white male propaganda" or some bullshit like that. I live in bay area california so we have these scumbags walking around proclaiming this daily. They all say the same shit cuz theyre all brain ded zombies who are VERY easily manipulated.

>having a sex drive at all
lol what's it like to be apes?

feetfags are the worst kill them with all the homos too

if you're a hebe what is the term for the girl that likes older men? Why is it wrong for one and ok for the other?

why are people so militantly anti-feet?

so age is just a number to you, then?

didn't say that, but why is the older person always at fault, these young girls know exactly what they are doing when they flirt with older men.

There was a Leddit post on paedophilia a while ago, believe it or not, lmao. Pedos like kids because they're pure, don't talk about sex & drugs all the time.

Seems like a cop-out on their part though: everyone with a dick just wants something tight to stick it in and fuck, and that's the bottom line for me. So I still think there are just evil rapists in this world, whether you call them a pedo, bi, a peeping tom, or gay.

I agree to a lot of that, but It is the responsibility of a more mature person to prevent themselves from being evil, if you believe in morality and crime, then the criminal is at fault fro comitting the crime, not the victim, which in a case of young teens, would be, perhaps some people are capable of having sex without being traumatised at that age, but there is a thin line between rules and no rules. It just depends on your morality I suppose.

But society disapproves that an older man should take advantage of a young girl, no matter how flirtatious they may be.

So the feminists are right by demonising men because of their genitals? lol

Okay, I dont really buy the whole naivety or innocence thing, I think its purely sexual, i've seen pedos talk about how they like to see the children cry, it is specific to the fact that they are adults and the victims are children.

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illuminati are all pedos

These are girls with ugly feet.

Nah man, women want to like be held and coddled and protected, they want a man to fight for them and do everything else they're too scared of doing, so they can tell him to slow down his drinking. They can be hypocrites. I think the crying thing plays into the purity of children, but morbidly nonetheless.

Oh yeah, I thought you meant that the pedos were childlike, like the cliches I've heard from people, before.

Just sent a tweet to Forehead suit man lmao