You can start your whole new life literally right now. You've put off your nutrition, have been destroying your wallet buying the some of the most expensive, resource hogging foods, and you're doing yourself no favor by eating processed garbage.
Overwhelming evidence concludes that by doing away with the Jew's grasp on your medical bills, spending a fourth of what you once spent on food, and by merely altering your diet- you can be healthier, stronger, have more testosterone, have an insanely lower risk of both heart disease and cancer, and laugh in the face of the uneducated if you like.
Vegan here, I'm probably the biggest faggot you will ever meet. I suck many dicks a day. Not as much as OP though. I don't swallow because cum is an animal product. I'm such a fucking fag
James Jenkins
nice try meatcuck >projecting your gayness on others because you're still in the closet faggot
Dylan Watson
Lol or we can go hunt for our food and eat better than you
Ayden Bennett
You don't hunt for your food. You buy it at Walmart.
Benjamin Evans
>>help save our planet >to feed vegans you need agriculture >agriculture causes earth to be less fertile >To ship veggies from 3rd/2nd world countries you need ships >Ships polute oceans
>>It takes 16 pounds of wheat to produce one pound of meat
what?
Nicholas Williams
what?
Chase Hall
what?
Joshua Morris
what?
Noah Perry
i still dont get what are you preaching for
Jayden Bennett
Meat can be grown anywhere, to get the same diversity in nutrition in vegetables you have to factor in the fact that lots of them have to be shipped over due to climate. Food miles are where veganism and vegetarianism falls down massively.
Hunter Gonzalez
Overall health, the overall well-being of our planet, and animal cruelty my dude.
Jaxson Long
vegetarianism is okay but HAVE A FUCKIN BURGER ONCE IN A WHILE
veganism is fucking stupid and unhealthy and no you can't get all the nutrients so shut the fuck up
anyone who references veganbody builder as a legitimate response to this is also retarded, that nigga looks unhealthy as fuck and disgusting
Austin Cox
Pretty sure my hunting rifle and the bones in my garbage disagree
Parker Gonzalez
The average vegan has 3 vitamin deficiencies. The average omnifag has 8. BTFO. Vegans are healthier and will live longer.
Eh. I still enjoy the taste, feel, and just the way it cooks. So fuck off. I'm an omnivore and you can't stop me!
Henry Stewart
>Overall well being of our planet Agriculture causes earth erosion turning it less fertile meaning it's counterproductive >Animal cruelty Nature is cruel
Jose Gonzalez
Cows are more agriculturally intensive to produce less food than plants alone. Nature IS cruel, but we are not nature. We are the modern man. 99% of our meat coming from factory farms is not. They are disgusting places where most of the animals are killed before adulthood. Something around 80% of pigs will have pneumonia when slaughtered in factory farms.
Austin Wright
we have omnivore teeth for a reason. Theres shit loads of proof that people who are raised as vegan from birth end up with osteopersosis and other problems. Most vegans you see today are complete bellends that have switched from being an omnivore. This fucks up results. But lets wait for the next generation the idiotic vegan parents that push their terrible decision based on something they read in a magazine on their kids will be the ones to see the problems.
Robert Wilson
Tell that to our dwindling phosphorous reserves in the earth. Soon NO crops will grow.
William Miller
Yet you post no source because you're making shit up. Vegan children are fine. Find me a study that says otherwise. inb4 blog post or article without a source
Benjamin Cruz
So you're agreeing with me ay? We should make sweet use of our land while we have it?
The claim that humans are natural meat-eaters is generally made on the belief that we have evolved the ability to digest meat, eggs and milk. This is true as far as it goes; as omnivores, we're physiologically capable of thriving with or without animal flesh and secretions. However, this also means that we can thrive on a whole food plant-based diet, which is what humans have also been doing throughout our history and prehistory. Even if we accept at face value the premise that man is a natural meat-eater, this reasoning depends on the claim that if a thing is natural then it is automatically valid, justified, inevitable, good, or ideal. Eating animals is none of these things. Further, it should be noted that many humans are lactose intolerant, and many doctors recommend a plant-based diet for optimal health. When you add to this that taking a sentient life is by definition an ethical issue - especially when there is no actual reason to do so - then the argument that eating meat is natural falls apart on both physiological and ethical grounds.
Gabriel Butler
hope you drop your baby and it shatters.
Blake Jenkins
"A vegetarian diet is associated with many health benefits because of its higher content of fiber, folic acid, vitamins C and E, potassium, magnesium, and many phytochemicals and a fat content that is more unsaturated. Compared with other vegetarian diets, vegan diets tend to contain less saturated fat and cholesterol and more dietary fiber. Vegans tend to be thinner, have lower serum cholesterol, and lower blood pressure, reducing their risk of heart disease." Thanks user! Perfect article for this thread.
Jaxon Garcia
"the risk of bone fracture may be a concern when there is an inadequate intake of calcium and vitamin D. Where available, calcium- and vitamin D–fortified foods should be regularly consumed. There is a need for more studies on the relation between vegan diets and risk of cancer, diabetes, and osteoporosis. Vitamin B-12 deficiency is a potential problem for vegans, so that the use of vitamin B-12–fortified foods or supplements are essential."
Christian Martin
Thats stupid though because omnivores get those benefits as well.
Adrian Wright
>implying milk isn't shit calcium >implying the richest sources of calcium aren't plants kek
Ethan Moore
Actually the average american has diseases associated with high cholesterol. Again, the average omnivore has 8 vitamin deficiencies. The average vegan has 3. I personally have zero. What's your excuse?
Aaron Smith
what are you talking about? The picture you posted says 60% of B12 deficient people are vegans.
Julian Baker
I'm not american, and have regular blood tests and have no deficiencies. I'm an omnivore.
Daniel Rodriguez
animal farms are really immoral but what can you do? how you will feed the masses? same goes for agriculture its toxic it makes our soil less fertile, but you know you need to feed the masses. Point is absolute vegan diet is unnatural. Truth is humans are part of nature. If you fight nature you fight yourself in a long run.
Nathaniel Smith
60% of B12 deficient people =/= 60% of people are B12 deficient 40% of meatcucks are B12 deficient because it's basted into their animals.
Brandon Gomez
Just started a batch of beef burgundy before coming on. Brisket braised with red wine. Suck it poor fags and vegetards
Alexander Bennett
What I dont get is why do vegans fight omnivores with such arrogance. We arent saying you should only eat meat. You guys are the militant ones, cringey as fuck.
Jonathan Gutierrez
Factory farms use more resources to produce animals by a factor of over one hundred. Come back with some sauce. inb4 you can't find sauce
Christian Hughes
>being this edgy
Evan Cook
just had a lamb tagine, that meat was literally turned to strands, so fucking good. Slow cooked for 4 hours, dont worry vegancucks I threw some dates in there as well.
Joshua Lopez
Try this instead.
Christopher Sullivan
(you)(you)(you)(you)(you) Here you are meatcuck. Your (you)s. >being this edgy
Christian Young
Intensive farming isnt the fault of omnivores you trash person. Its the fast food industry mainly.
Ryan Bennett
>Animals eat animals so I can too
"Non-human animals do many things we find unethical; they steal, rape, eat their children and engage in other activities that do not and should not provide a logical foundation for our behavior. This means it is illogical to claim that we should eat the same diet certain non-human animals do. So it is probably not useful to consider the behavior of stoats, alligators and other predators when making decisions about our own behavior. The argument for modeling human behavior on non-human behavior is unclear to begin with, but if we're going to make it, why shouldn't we choose to follow the example of the hippopotamus, ox or giraffe rather than the shark, cheetah or bear? Why not compare ourselves to crows and eat raw carrion by the side of the road? Why not compare ourselves to dung beetles and eat little balls of dried feces? Because it turns out humans really are a special case in the animal kingdom, that's why. So are vultures, goats, elephants and crickets. Each is an individual species with individual needs and capacities for choice. Of course, humans are capable of higher reasoning, but this should only make us more sensitive to the morality of our behavior toward non-human animals. And while we are capable of killing and eating them, it isn't necessary for our survival. We aren't lions, and we know that we cannot justify taking the life of a sentient being for no better reason than our personal dietary preferences."
Michael Scott
>eating meat >being edgy
Literally kill yourself, im sure you're pretty close to death anyway with all your bone problems.
Asher Hall
>trash person >implying people eat fast food for a majority of their diet kek
Anthony Hall
Effects of a long-term vegetarian diet on biomarkers of antioxidant status and cardiovascular disease risk. [Nutrition. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873
Vegetarian diets and the incidence of cancer in a low-risk population. [Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
Love me a good tangine. I need to make more preserved lemons. I eat everything, including lots of veggies. I'm of opinion anything that can give your body nutrition can be delicious and wholesome. It's about moderation.
Except sea squirt. Fuck that noise. Tastes like something scraped off a boat anchor and left on deck for a day in the sun.
The role of diet and physical activity in breast, colorectal, and prostate cancer survivorship: a review of the literature ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3251953/
An impact of the diet on serum fatty acid and lipid profiles in Polish vegetarian children and children with allergy. [Eur J Clin Nutr. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21048771
Effects of a long-term vegetarian diet on biomarkers of antioxidant status and cardiovascular disease risk. [Nutrition. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873
Vegetarian diets and the incidence of cancer in a low-risk population. [Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
This thread has turned into philosophical debate about traditionalist and modernism.
Jordan Young
I went vegetarian with milk and eggs occasionally, honestly its been great. Ive always been healthy but i feel so much healthier now
Levi Reed
Good job user. Did you know that you can buy a egg-laying-bred hen for about $1-2. You can build a coop for probably $30 in lumber. They lay eggs once per day usually.
Thomas Jones
Survival of the fittest bitches. And from an evolutionary perspective the best thing a species can do is become useful to mankind. There are maybe 50k wolves in the world and 400 million dogs. We plant 15000 corn plants for every man woman and child in this country. You keep your ethics and I'll keep mine.
Grayson Gonzalez
People tend to eat plants and meat for optimal diet. I haven't met a person who eats only meat
Robert Taylor
>implying your survival of the fittest isn't your daily mcdonalds burger or trip to walmart
Nolan Howard
Considering an omnivorous diet isn't optimal and is considered a health risk, I don't think you're wrong. Also, never once was it implied that people are eating 'only meat'. Nice strawman though.
Nathan Martin
Hit the nail on the head. I like meat and look forward to good lab grown meat. I also have 0 problem with most GMOs. Science is the only chance we have to make life better. As long as there is a market there will be meat. Better to work on how that meat is made then trying to guilt people over to ones point of view
Connor Phillips
Nice
Parker Gonzalez
>guilt Guilt was never implied. That guilt you feel comes from within.
Jaxon Robinson
They live for 20 years.
Jason Lopez
Not implying that all. We have a different kind if survival of the fittest now. It's called (crony) capitalism. Work to change the market rather then trying to destroy it. Just say no doesn't work with weed, heroin or nuggets.
There is vast room for improvement. The meat can be much more humanly raised and dispatched. We can have real wholesome meat again. Not this flavorless chicken we get now.
Liam Moore
I have zero guilt. I hunt, I forage mushrooms and wild edibles, I garden, I raise my own eggs and even snails. I want better treatment for animals because of taste and nutrition. Don't let the pure be the enemy of the good.
Angel Smith
Hunting 100% of your food alone would be a full time job.
Grayson Clark
Meat has alot of protein that is essential for our well being also it's alot cheaper and less time consuming to kill a chicken than wait for the crops to grow. We evolved this way to eat other animals we wouldn't eat animals if we didn't need to do that. Vegans have some vitamin/iron deficiencies. >average meat consumer.png
yeah she would probably get heart disease in like few years
Cooper Green
You are not a medieval man. You are not a hunter/gatherer. Evolution has no voice in an argument about current ethics. Meatcucks have more deficiencies than vegans. Eating a plant based diet is healthier for you. >it's alot cheaper and less time consuming to kill a chicken This is very wrong. Plants grow faster than a chicken can eat plants to grow. They also use more resources to do so.
Lucas Adams
Wtf is a meat cuck? Dumb fucker.when you sick your boyfriends dick do you swallow or do you spit because you're vegan
Luke Martinez
Veganism is sold on the back of being better than other people, this thread is a prime example of that. To vegans they're doing the world a favour by shouting about the horrors of an omnivore existence. Thats why veganism is such a joke to the general public and why people make fun of them. It attracts a really toxic sort of person. On the other hand its made vegetarians normal.
David Thompson
>vegans r gay heuheu >projecting this far from inside the closet faggot
Caleb Brown
>being this stupid
Angel Turner
That's not what you look like, you're a skinny little scrawny sickly pussy irl
No, now you're doing what you've been insulting people in the thread for. Give me a valid rebuttal.
Parker Russell
I never said 100%. Everything is a full time job for somebody. That's what modern society functions on. I try to do the best I can. I let my dollars vote for how I want stuff I don't do personally to be done.
So if the argument is about sentience then what about my snails i raise for escargot and caviar? What about sea urchin roe? What about unfertilized eggs? Honey? Every one has to make that decision themselves. Easier with food if you homesteaded I guess.
Ayden Lewis
you didn't answer my question. Do you spit or swallow your boyfriends load Vegan cuck faggot.
James Howard
that cow shes stroking wouldn't exist if the world was vegan.
Asher Ward
OP is right yk Vegan memes cringe tf outta me
Julian Hernandez
You think I'm here to argue about your eating disorder. Fucking kek I don't care about your eating disorder kid. How about I make you a fresh plate of my grass clippings and you can eat those pussy hahahah
>being so retarded you think all vegetables are grass >eating disorder An eating disorder =/= a micronutrient deficiency. Nice try. It seems you should lay off the pink slime.
Joshua Johnson
Human with optimal diet wouldn't just simply eat meat or vegetables he would eat both and get advantages/disadvantages of both.
Landon Lewis
Veganism isn't altruistic. It's evangelical.
Brayden Rogers
There are zero benefits to eating meat other than appealing to your laziness to change.
Jaxon Butler
>bible states man is allowed to eat meat >being religious in 2017 kek, evangelical Veganism is pure altruism.
Adrian Bell
this, its gaining a cult following.
Mason Torres
As a meat eater with an educational background in this type of stuff, I agree with this. We need to eat more chickens and less beef. Beef contributes a shitton to global warming through cows farting (methane gas, 4x worse than carbon dioxide) and not to mention 1 pound of ground beef is equal to using 8,000 gallons of water. Shit is unsustainable and not to mention red meat isn't that great for you either. I do love me a fuggin steak though boi
Ryan Adams
I'm going to enjoy a delicious steak. Maybe you can go eat those leaves off of that tree like the pussy you are lolol
Ayden Fisher
this thread is the opposite of altruism though.
Austin Ross
He's repeating himself. I think I broke him
Alexander Gonzalez
>lack of argument >more ad hominem What a sad attempt at trolling. 0/10.
Logan Peterson
not this fucking guy again
imagine wasting your life on Sup Forums trying to convert people to your vegan lifestyle
youtube.com/watch?v=yfsT-qYeqGM&feature=player_embedded[Open] Celebrated Cornell University professor T. Colin Campbell Phd, presents the overwhelming evidence showing that animal protein is one of the most potent carcinogens people are exposed to.
>imagine doing something for the good of humanity >the definition of altruism
Nathan Rogers
Except that homo species' ancestor was herbivore and our bodies are basically made to eat like an herbivore, bot even like an omnivore. Most Humans can't eat raw meat without getting even the slightiest intestilal problem while digesting it. Just look up "Humans are Herbivores" and you'll notice our anatomy is 100% coincidental to that of a frugivore
Easton Green
how can Sup Forums incels compete?
Christopher Russell
>keep responding over and over >thinks I'm here to argue and have a fucking debate >is autistic Fucking kek
