>be me
>19 y.o.
>be processing with Sheriff's Office
>trying to be a cop
>go on police ride along
>full shift, everything is awesome
>arrests, responding to calls
>hoping we get to go loud
>lights and sirens
>about to get food mid shift
>radio cuts through restaurant
>major car accident
>semi hits car and it rolls
>"user, fuck the food, we gotta go"
>haul ass back to cruiser
>we go loud
>lights, sirens, 100mph down the road
>get to the scene
>fire dept. there already
>2 women in car pronounced dead at the scene
>accident investigation detectives arrive
>one throws me some gloves
>"you get to help with the bodies, son"
>investigate scene
>major damage
>semi driver is okay
>car is fucked
>rolled over and crushed
>one woman on the ground, white sheet over her
>other one crushed inside the driver seat
>fire dept. can't even get her out with the jaws of life
>check the bodies, all smashed up
>blood everywhere
>stomach growls
>be at scene for five hours
>help detectives search the area for stuff that flew from the car
>write report
>direct traffic
>shift ends
>get back home
>type this
I wasn't really uncomfortable at the scene with the bodies, but now that I'm back home, I can't stop thinking about it. Any police fags out there? Anybody else have any experiences like this?
Be me
I work with cops, they always say that you better start early with dark humor cause it is the only way you can handle that shit
Checked. I just feel weird now because we searched them and searched the car to find some way of identifying them and we looked through their purses and found their phones that were still getting calls and texts. Like they had lives too. I'm not being a little bitch or crying about it, but seeing shit like that online vs seeing it in reality is fucking me up a little.
Not a police-fag, but I know that feel.
I've laughed about people dying,
but when half the people I know die,
it's completely fucked and I can't deal.
I've been drinking pretty hard for about a decade over one death.
The lady in the car was crushed and most likely died on impact, and the one on the ground had broken her neck and died while the car was rolling. I was excited to get to do stuff, as opposed to just having to look at everyone else doing it. I've had relatives and people I love die, but like, seeing these lifeless bodies, knowing they were alive less than an hour before, it's getting me down. We thought one of them had been partially decapitated when we first arrived. There was a big mass of bloody hair in the road. They had me pick it up and check and it turns out that one of the women had lost her weave. Everyone else was laughing stuff off but I don't know how to deal with it. Like do I just forget about the fucked up stuff? It probably comes with time. The more you see, the higher your tolerance and the lower your sensitivity to it becomes.
Man, my ride along was awesome. It pretty much solidified my choice to be a cop. Everyday you get to see something new. youre not confined to a desk and one day its some hicks fighting each other, or a dude who called his car missing when it really got repoe'd. And then you have the day where a death is involved. Id still take it over a desk job in some concrete jungle
good thing you didn't eat first, it probably would have wound up on the pavement
I'm not a smart guy, but my advice is simply try to hold it together, user-Kun. All I know is that nothing good comes from breaking down and losing your shit. XD
I got to see some cool stuff too. We arrested this guy for hitting his wife in a dollar store and we put him in the County Jail, where I'll be working. This one guy in intake was on suicide watch and he's slamming his food tray into the window and screaming "nigger" repeatedly. Half of the deputies in intake were black. He changed his tune when 6 huge dudes stacked up on the door to transfer him to a different cell. We all thought it was fucking hilarious. I got to light flares to block the road and show people where to turn around, which was really cool.
Kill yourself for becoming a cop. Worlds biggest fucking gang
Calm down there, edgelord.
Why is everybody so fucking tense today?
It's good to process it, find something that can take you away from it, the day it no longer bothers you is the day you need to quit. Trust me.
You see any tits or pussy? Were they hot?
OP seems like a pretty cool guy. Too bad in less than 10 years of being a cop he will be a huge asshole like most cops
Thank you for the tip, user. I'll remember that.
No, it was really cold, and once you die, your body becomes cold too. Nobody was hot.
Lol.
Don't know how much you've experienced death, but it doesn't sound like a lot. Not a cop, but was Military for a long time. You just get used to it after a while. It never really bothered me, but everyone just takes that shit different. One piece of advice I would give you is to really think if you are up for it. A car accident with a couple dead people is nothing compared to the sick shit cops have to see. Are you ready to see a 2 year old that was raped to death lying lifeless on the floor? There is a reason cops kind of stop giving a fuck about trivial things after a while.
I just thought the tolerance would build up with the more shit I see. Things might stop seeming so bad if I see worse, or if I see the same fucked up thing over and over, it'll just be normal at that point.
Yeah it will definitely build up. The thing is that it isn't the same for everyone. Go for it man, be a cop, but just mentally prepare yourself for the worst. If you can't take it then find a new career. Don't fucking off yourself because you just keep at it.
Thanks to everyone who gave me advice, if anyone is still here. I'll monitor the thread in case anyone else responds. If not, I hope you all have a good night.
Also, it might help to watch some detective anime.
That might sound like weird advice, but I think it would help keep your mind off the real tragedies, and more on the work aspect of being a cop.
I'm not worried about it making me depressed or have an existential crisis or anything. I'm just sad and it's my first time with an experience like this. I still want to be a cop and I'm hoping that I can make this a learning experience so I have a better idea of what might happen in the future, you know what I mean?
Found the nigger
What are some good ones for me to check out? I don't watch anime, so I wouldn't know about it.
The only one I can think of at the moment is Monster. But that one is kinda fucked. I don't know if it would help or hurt. lol. But I liked it.
perfectly normal to feel that way man. At least you know you aren't a sociopath. I think you'll be alright. Was kind of surprising seeing my first dead body, but it was different. He was the enemy and I didn't give a fuck about him. I was glad he was dead. It's the kids that kind of made me feel sad. When those fucking sand niggers would blow themselves up and take out whole families and you had to go secure the cleanup, that's when I felt kinda shitty.
I'll check it out. Thanks, user.
Keep your chin up man. And embrace the dark humor. Remember that everyone dies at some point, and don't forget your reason to live. Eventually you'll go numb to the blood and it won't be so difficult.
I held my father as he bled out while following him to breakfast. Guy was riding a motorcycle without his helmet at low speed and flew over the handlebars.
6 years later I still see it, but it'll go away eventually.
Somehow Iraq still didn't seem so gruesome.
i was an EMT and then paramedic for several years, you see some grisly shit.. some people can stomach it, some can't .. blood and guts never got to me too much but it's tough when you have very sick / critically injured kids.
My dad was a cop and he told me about this accident he responded to back in the day. Family hit a tree going way to fast around a curve. Mom and dad dead in the front seat, heads smashed open from impact. Little boy and little girl in the backseat with burns from the seat belts, neck broken. There was a baby seat in the back, empty. They found the baby up in the tree. It had flown through the windshield and been impaled on a tree branch. That would probably fuck me up.
Shit, man. I'm really sorry. My experience makes me feel like a pussy compared to yours.
Irrelevant question, but I need to know. What's the difference between a paramedic and an EMT?
Jesus man... I'm just imagining that and I feel terrible. How did your dad handle it?
He loved his job. He always told me that it is the best job in the world. That's a big reason why I'm trying to be a cop. I want to be like him and the guys I grew up around. I think it upset him a lot because that was around the time I was born and I'm his first kid. He had seen a lot of shit at that point. This guy in a biker bar hit a speaker that wasn't working with a club that turned out to be a double barrel shotgun. He blew himself in half and my dad talked to him while he died.
emt is emergency medical technician, they get certified in about 6 months. a paramedic takes more training, 2 years. there is always an EMT and a paramedic together in an ambulance. often, the EMT will drive while the paramedic cares for the patient. the EMT does a lot of the assessment process, they can clear an airway, set a broken bone, etc.. the paramedic can start IV's and administer certain medications.
Thanks for the explanation. I used to think they were just two different names for the same thing. Like police officer and constable.
they are often conflated but there really is quite a large difference in training. this is a better explanation than my short summary:
Damn, I didn't know there was that big of a difference in the training and what each one is able to do. That's pretty neat. At least I know now.
by the way, don't know if you are OP, but here's something maybe you can relate to.
my first ride along as an EMT was not typical. typically EMT's transport patients, go to someones home for what turns out to be a non-critical issue, etc.. a lot more boring than one might assume.
however, my first ride along, we got a call for a guy who went into cardiac arrest in the food court of a local mall. he was not breathing and had no pulse when we got there, which was very quickly. we attempted to resuscitate him for a few minutes at the mall, a large group of people all around.. felt bad for his family.
he didn't respond... we continued to use a defibrillator on him in the ambulance all the way to the hospital. he didn't make it. he wasn't that old, maybe 50s or 60s. pretty sad.
also, it's true.. when you have someone that goes into cardiac arrest, they shit and piss themselves. it's not pleasant, but that's the reality of it, and of being in emergency medicine.
Emt here.
You get used to it, it's just like any other animal/roadkill.
People aren't particularlly different than dogs when you get down to it, dogs seem to have life figured out a lot better than some gas station attendant who thinks they're important.
Yeah, I am OP. I didn't know that happened in cardiac arrest. I thought it just happens when you die. Or did he piss and shit himself because he had died already?
cardiac arrest basically is death.
You should have told them if that they knew CPR they could have saved their dad and it's (point to the youngest child) their fault in particular.
The accident actually happened at a gas station. The ladies in the car tried to turn left out of the gas station. That road is always super busy. It's two lanes going each way with the grass divide in the center. They didn't yield to the semi and that's all she wrote. The gas station attendant who saw it acted like she had PTSD and was crying and screaming on the phone and to us.
I'm a traffic cop in bangkok so i see smash out brains and flip flops everyday.
And yet the libcucks are focused on guns when basically everyone they know has been injured in a car accident in one way or another.
I fucking hate cars.
At least with gsw you know he did something to piss someone off.
haha, careful with that edge, you might cut yourself.
I should but I'm kind of not kidding.
Why was no one doing CPR?
Can't tell if joke post because of the flip flops bit. If not, then props to you. Cops in places other than North America don't play. Especially in South America and Asia. You guys don't fuck around.
it's irrational to hate inanimate objects, whether they be vehicles or firearms. neither have a mind of their own. it is dumb ass people making poor choices or just being homicidal that results in people losing their lives.
i enjoy shooting sports very much. and i love driving. i prefer driving late at night when there are very few people on the road... shitty drivings are very annoying. especially when you're driving an ambulance and trying to get a patient to the hospital through traffic.
>dumbass people making poor choices
Yes, but generally you have to piss someone off to get shot at.
Cars you leave the gas station and don't notice the cunt with his lights off and get turned into hamburger.
I would say most people just don't know how. I mean, I would have to agree. Crowded mall food court. At least one person there had to have known CPR. Just assume people are retarded.
good question, this was quite a long time ago, about 15 years ago actually.. i don't remember if any family member was doing CPR when we arrived, i don't think they were, nor was any bystander... maybe they didn't know how? good question, why do we have this bystander effect where people just freeze and stand around and fail to aid people during a crisis? there's a lot of sheep in the world.. that's my take on it
Firstly acknowledge the feelings that you had/have. Seems like you're doing pretty well at this so far.
Realize life is a very fragile thing and the only thing separating the dead from the living is one mistake, mechanical failure, angry person or freak incident.
Lastly, somebody has to do this job but it doesn't have to be you. If you can deal with seeing this kind of stuff and have the will power to push through it and still try to do the right thing regardless of how you personally feel about it then keep on doing it, we need people like that.
Also remember it's a thankless job, most people are going to mistrust you simply because of the title you have. Try not to let that get to you and remember that what you're doing is important but also requires a lot of restraint.
Being a cop means being the first line of defense separating the savage nature of humans and the respectable civilization we like to tell ourselves we are, you're proof that we can civilized so show it.
What I'm saying is that cars are much more dangerous than guns, and are almost necessary to have, that being said the companies that make them don't do dick in regards for safety and visibility because it costs too many shekels and most people are too short sighted to give a fuck or just drive whatever they can afford.
Do yourself a favor and drive a pickup and just deal with the gas cost, it'll save your life.
Firefighter here. Talk to the experienced people. They can guide you
A friend I had at school died in a car crash on my street. He was only 16 at the time and had his provisional moped licence. He was on his way home after hanging out with us and ironically, my ex-girlfriends fuck buddy, with the exact same name, was speeding to see my ex (she was a year older than me and he was about two years older than her) because they'd been arguing. He overtook a taxi on a blind bend and completely crushed my friend.
Most of us were at my house at the time. We ran down the road when we heard what happened.
He was there. Cold, dead and contorted. My ex's (((friend))) ran off. His car was fucked. He's in prison now. Extended sentence. We don't talk about him anymore.
The kid was called Josh Tyler. Google it if you're interested.
There's not really any wrong way to do it.
It's best to not be certified too, that way the cunt can't try to sue for his broken ribs he got while you saved his ass.
And all of it could be avoided if he just didn't have to drink all that whiskey to escape his wife's constant nagging and eating disorder.
I'm laughing, I have a cynical sense of humor i apologize.
sure, car companies in general are more concerned with their bottom line than safety. but there's also diminishing returns, as there is no way to make a vehicle perfectly safe.. you can only mitigate injury up to a certain point even when you are willing to do everything possible.
stupid people doing stupid shit will still injure themselves, no matter how much they are warned and no matter how much of a nanny state they live in. and they will also generally prefer to buy cheap, death traps than buy a better vehicle.
I work in an ER. It stays with you for sure, but either you learn to leave work at work and more or less forget about that stuff at home, or you will get issues. It also does get more routine over time.
Don't really have any advice, I've always naturally been able to deal with it in an ok manner. And like you said, in the heat of the moment you just act. Surprises most people, including myself, the reaction comes a bit later.
there's definitely a wrong way to administer CPR, shit even the medical community keeps changing the ratio of compressions to breathing, etc.. and can't decide what works the best.. constantly retraining people.
Dude I was a mechanic then a tow truck driver before I was an EMT. Car companies don't give a FUCK. Small improvements to head area, collapsable foam, STRONGER FRAMES, the removal of airbags and 4 point seat belts that release in one snap that are as easy as the traditional ones we've been using since before we knew they break your back, seats that retain the driver's ass, THE ABSOLUTE OUTLAW of those retarded infotainment touch screen things that require you to stare down for 5 minutes to change the radio station. all these things could save so many, but I don't think they care. In fact, I know they don't.
You just do the CPR thing and every 10-15 compressions you breathe in them.
It really doesn't matter as long as you do those two things and not at the same time.
I'm a lifeguard and we have to do monthly training otherwise we can't work for the rest of the month, and honestly the health board constantly changes acronyms and CPR techniques so they can produce new books and make more money. The best way to do CPR is 30 compressions, 2 breaths, 30 compressions 2 breaths. If they're choking on water then 5 breaths first then 30 compressions and 2 breaths.
Proof
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Oh, and dark humor, definitely. Sharing with colleagues and laughing at all the super-fucked up shit is something we all do. And I guess there's a reason for it.
Just don't try it with non-colleagues.
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Michigan deputy fag here. You're over time going to develop a compassion fatigue for the victims. This will protected your shredded humanity and at the same time make normal people think you're a dick. You need to really think about empathy and have to almost practice it like a sociopath. Just another victim to you was someone's whole reason to wake up everyday. Enjoy the career as I've been told it's the greatest show on earth and we have the front row.
it was a joke. i'm in denmark and the cops do fuck around.
30-2 on adults. Was 15-2 before. We still use 15-2 on kids sometimes, or if several people are helping it differs. Either way, if you're not trained the most important thing is just focusing on compressions, even if you skip the breaths alltogether.
I heard that phrase four times today. Fuck, is that the official Law Enforcement saying? It's the greatest show on Earth and we have the front row.
Calm down tyrone
Your department probably have some psycologist or counselor you can talk to. Do it, have a meeting and just talk. Be smart with your mental health, if you are going to see more of these "scenes"
Jesus fuck.
There is no reason to change it. and if a kid has a heart attack its done just telling anyone reading the thread.
Been doing it for 8.5 years.... You deal with death with dark humor and a shot or two after the shift.... I'm not allowed to drink anymore so I just find other was to relax. Find you a good hobby or have kids to spend your time with. You are going to see some things normal people in society couldn't handle, yet you are going to have to accept the situation as it presents itself and deal as hear you can.... I don't know how many fatality car accidents I have worked, I can't recall the number of suicides I have worked. I've have 3 use of deadly force situations and have lost 5 co-workers in my time. It happens, it sucks, but tomorrow is a new day and maybe a new chance to change someone's life , or save someone from themselves.
Deal with it as you can*. Damn phone
>5 co workers in 8.5 years
shit what city where people are such nogs?
I'll remember to stay away
I've worked for a couple agencies along with being detached to a muti-county SRT. We cover several counties in GA with a metro area. I hope to go to the state next year they just got a 20% increase in pay across the board... Beats the heck out of what locals pay