Dont even go there Sup Forums Go Vegan today
Dont even go there Sup Forums Go Vegan today
Christopher Adams
Xavier Perry
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Luke Jenkins
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Lucas Gray
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Adam Williams
mods pruned the other thread and cut me off.
as I was saying, plants are a complex form of life just like animals. they show complex responses to stimuli, similar to an animals central nervous system with different structures. from there, it's likely that they could experience negative stimuli in a manner similar to what we refer to as pain.
since plants and animals carry similar moral weight, there is no moral reason to eat one and not the other.
on top of this, eating no meat leads to nutritional deficiencies, since we're supposed to be omnivores, which means there's no health argument either.
therefore, veganism and vegetarianism are absurd and wrong.
Dylan Morris
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William Reed
do rocks feel pain? they react to stimuli too
Eli Barnes
the cucumber is a fruit that grows on a vine, so this example is misleading.
rocks only respond according to physics. plants show complex responses and behaviors, consistent with a complex life-form.
Henry Rogers
Do you veganfags ever get tired of hearing yourself spout the same garbage everyday in the exact same fucking thread you make EVERY. FUCKING. DAY? Sorry, but you can piss yourself in anger and envy eternally, I'm not giving up the best part of every meal because of your butthurt moralfag ways.
It doesn't bother me none that something had to die for my meal, every living thing dies, and the world is full of living things that have their biological clocks ticking.
Xavier Richardson
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Alexander Allen
>Do you veganfags ever get tired of hearing yourself spout the same garbage everyday in the exact same fucking thread you make EVERY. FUCKING. DAY?
no, they don't. they want to feel morally superior, even if their ideas are baseless.
they convinced themselves that they won in the other thread lmao, which is why I continued here.
Samuel Rodriguez
Glad to see you cant even post a relavent counter. Veganfags are basically brain dead with the lack of proper nutrients your brains are getting.
Austin Perez
Vegans have less nutritional deficiencies = statistically more intelligent
Atherosclerosis however may have your brain lacking, meatcuck.
Alexander Nguyen
relevant counter to YOUR philosophy?
stay in school kiddo
Henry Long
you just made that up. not eating meat is what leads to deficiencies in vitamins and minerals that are difficult to replace. we're supposed to be omnivores, so an omnivorous diet is by far the best way to meet nutritional needs.
Jacob Reed
The claim that humans are natural meat-eaters is generally made on the belief that we have evolved the ability to digest meat, eggs and milk. This is true as far as it goes; as omnivores, we're physiologically capable of thriving with or without animal flesh and secretions. However, this also means that we can thrive on a whole food plant-based diet, which is what humans have also been doing throughout our history and prehistory.
Even if we accept at face value the premise that man is a natural meat-eater, this reasoning depends on the claim that if a thing is natural then it is automatically valid, justified, inevitable, good, or ideal. Eating animals is none of these things. Further, it should be noted that many humans are lactose intolerant, and many doctors recommend a plant-based diet for optimal health. When you add to this that taking a sentient life is by definition an ethical issue - especially when there is no actual reason to do so - then the argument that eating meat is natural falls apart on both physiological and ethical grounds.
Tyler Hall
But check this out faggot
I don't give a shieeeeeettt xD
Nathan Lee
I'm not saying plants aren't good for you, they are. but we need balance in our diet. vegans especially don't get enough b12, calcium, iron, and zinc.
also, for millennia we were hunter-gatherers, that is, we both hunted animals and gathered fruits/vegetables.
morally, what is sentience? is it only human intelligence, or is it any complex life? as I was saying before, plants show quite a bit of complexity and responsiveness, just in a different way from animals. this means that there is no significant moral difference between eating plants and animals.
almost all life consumes other life to survive. since we must do this, there is no reason to favor animals over plants, except for a cognitive bias in favor of mammals.
Lincoln Ramirez
Vegans can receive everything from their diet besides B12.
Zachary Hill
But check this out faggot
I don't give a shieeeeeettttt xP
Chase Diaz
But check this out faggggoott
I don't give a shieeeeettttt x3
Asher Murphy
But check this out fagggggggotttt
I. Don't. Give. A. SHIIIIEEETTT XB
Carson Murphy
Gas yourself soyboy
Leo Sanders
Daily reminder that I'm literally better than you.
Nathan Rogers
maybe, but it's still much more challenging to get the nutrients you need without meat/milk/fish/etc in your diet.
vegan.com
if you want to be healthy, all you need is a mostly vegetarian diet with some fish/poultry/eggs/milk included. there's no need to resort to the extremes of veganism.
Nolan Sullivan
or simply take a multivitamin
Luke Butler
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Jaxson Edwards
multivitamins help, but they're not always enough. you need iron, zinc, omega 3 fatty acids, vitamin D, etc
Jayden Morris
no thanks op, I can't help murder this tasty
Jordan Roberts
"DEVA Vegan Multivitamin & Mineral tablets feature a once-a-day, potent formula with a smooth vegetable-based coating for easy swallowing. Besides being a complete vitamin and mineral supplement, DEVA Vegan Multivitamin & Mineral is formulated with herbs to promote better vegan health, including parsley, rose hips and chamomile. DEVA Multivitamin is certified vegan by the Vegan Society. DEVA multivitamins are free of GMOs, yeast, wheat, gluten, milk, sugar, salt, starch, preservatives and animal products, byproducts or derivatives."
Isaac Rogers
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Alexander Clark
so they say, naturally they want to promote their product. but from doing brief research, alot of sources emphasize the challenge of keeping the vegan diet complete and balanced.
Benjamin Jackson
the ingredients are listed as well
>inb4 ur can't trust the evil food testing labs
Christopher Sanders
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Aiden Nelson
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Jeremiah Perry
Alright, let's talk some real shit. You want to win me over to veganism? I tell you what:
I don't give a fuck about enviromental or ethnical arguments. But I do care about 3 things when I eat: money, time & taste
So how about instead of spaming shit that tells me how much of an asshole I allegedly am for eating meat, you spam some recipes that are comparable with your averange meat meal based on those 3 factors?
Asher Jones
chekd
seitan costs 1/10th the price of chicken and is high in protein with decent amino profiles. it literally has the same consistency as your average chicken. it takes 5-10 minutes to make with minimal effort.
Carter Diaz
I never knew mcdonalds makes you shorter.
Thanks, I'm going to mcdonalds. Tired of people asking what the weather is like up here...
Real life saver you are user.
Jace James
If you have a gigantic mega-gut hanging off your front side you probably will have shittier posture.
Caleb Nelson
So... What you're saying is that I may as well just kill myself.
Okay.