Do numbers exist?

do numbers exist?

Depends on your definition of numbers.

Depends on your definition of exists.

2 and 5 do, the rest is a lie.

abstract quantitative objects

is rather than is not

Kind of, there is infinite numbers between any two numbers, so numbers as the individual digits we usually reason are mostly just a virtual representation of what is really a continous wave.

is the question "do numbers exist?" the same question as "are numbers real?" ?

Depends on your definition of do

>there is infinite numbers
>there is
>is

Yes and no.

Numbers only exist once you start counting said objects but not when you're not thinking about "how many"

Even then, it's the 7 objects that exists. Not the number 7.

Interesting idea OP.

Asking if numbers exist is really the same as asking if quantities exist, and the answer to that is yes.

Numbers are relative to how you would like to measure things. Meaning they only exist if you measure them. Like constant of G is 6.67x10 to the fucking Idk. But that is measured using the metric system. Using the standard system would get you a different number however they would also be equivalent

Short answer yes or no. Yes if you're dividing up the idea of something, no if you're examining the idea of something. It's a measure, which is meaningless ultimately and we need in order to see things as pieces or the sum which wouldn't exist without numbers. So answer is yes and no

They are if you say that they mean the same thing to you.
They aren't if you say that they don't mean the same thing.

except it's not the same question

I will have you know I meant to write "there is an"

so, quantity has no meaning?

how is it then possible to know how much say "5" is without knowing what "5" means?

go study discrete mathematics before you bring your lame, pseudo-philosophical questions here

there is nothing within mathematics which will tell you anything about ontology

you only think the question is lame because you can't give a good answer to it, no matter how much math you study

in other words, you're immature

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if it didn't you wouldn't have made this thread

Combo breaker here that pic is fucking gross