Hey guys!
Lets have a good old fashioned battleship thread!
Lets discuss our favourite battleships, why we love them and why the battleship no longer has a place in a modern navy.
Come on chaps, lets set sail. Fun times are ahead.
So, put down you cocks, head to the docks, for some good old naval fun.
I fucking love the NJ
Fuck. All the bullshit threads stay up and one person who wants to have an actual interesting discussion gets nothing.
I love battleships. I think the Iowa class was probably my favorite. It's too bad most of the best battleships ended up underperforming because of bad commanders or having to sacrifice too much for weight.
> battleships no longer has a place in a modern navy
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Bismarck was pretty fuckin cool
Graf Spee
>Can outrun anything larger
>Can outgun anything smaller
FIRE FOR EFFECT
Gotta love the pride of glorious nippon the Yamato
+1 for Bismarck
I can give you 4 reasons:
>they're slow/un-maneuverable
>relied on an ever out-dating form of ballistics.
>plane bait.
>required a constant escort of ships.
Also 3 more reasons:
>expensive to build(even more expensive to lose)
>uses an unforgivable amount of resources for upkeep.
>carrier does its job better/ cruiser does its job better
Battleships will make a comeback. Once we get railguns less useless they will replace the gun mounts. Longer range, faster than missiles, can intercept missiles, almost impossible to block.
Damn fine Battleship. The very last proper one.
End of an era.
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Railguns
Plus they can be covered in Gatling rail guns as the tech improves, to make.intercepts.possible
Only question is will this restart the aresenal ship concept, or the Carrier submarine concept
Battleships don't really need a constant escort of ships, maybe just an oil tanker for a long journey. The battle of jutland proved that at the time battleships could only be sunk by other battleships.
But yeah then carriers happened...
U.S.S. Michigan. My grandfather served on Her in WWI. She was decommissioned in 1926.
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Montana class should have been built
Another for the bismark. Not a nazi just one bad ass ship.
>Ship no longer manoeuvrable. We fight to the last shell. Long live the Führer
Bismarck best shippo.
Meet the Yamato
Built:1937–1942
263 m (862 ft 10 in) overall
has a tasty nine 46 cm/45 caliber (18.1 in) guns (the largest guns ever fitted to a warship) mounted in three 3-gun turrets, each of which weighed 2,774 metric tons. Each gun was 21.13 metres (69.3 ft) long and weighed 147.3 metric tons (145.0 long tons)
oh then theres the secondary armament comprised twelve 15.5 cm/60 Type 3 guns mounted in four triple turrets (one forward, two amidships, one aft),[52] and twelve 12.7 cm/40 Type 89 guns in six double-turrets (three on each side amidships)
gg
We'll find that German battleship that's making such a fuss
Do the real old ones count? Cos the HMS Victory was a beast. Plus it had Nelson, the dude was a badass
I am thinking that battleships may come back in a different form. When they finally make rail guns viable. They may be heavy require some power, there will be a new series of dreadnoughts created for it.
Subs or carriers are way better in every way
Nope, wanna strike something with the force of a thousand suns? Drop a bomb on it, no need to build an expensive, wasteful abomination for that
Nice pic of the Uss Massachusetts. A very successful and decorated ship in ww2. Shes currently at battleship cove in fall river ma. (Few blocks over from the lizzy Borden house) been many times myself
how long has Texas been sinking, again?
new aircraft carries (Ford-class) already use electromagnetic launch systems for the fighter jets, so the technology is both feasible and affordable. lasers and rail guns is probably the future. think about a rail gun launched torpedo, would be supercavitating beyond belief.
my favorite battleship is probably the cleveland-class.
Railguns will go on zumwalt-class destroyers. Battleships are unnecessary. My grandfather was on the Lowry in WWII. I'm also on a destroyer, so I'm pretty partial to them as far as defense goes.
>battleship thread
Subs are too slow and vulnerable. A surface ship is still very fine. Aircraft carriers are not going away. Shooting a rail gun would be insanely cheap vs missles/tech. As you stated firing lots of rounds is near impossible to stop. The navy had plans to try a railgun on a ship its not a secret. Just the tech needs to improve. I doubt they will call it a battleship but its going to be damn close.
We gotta sink the Bismarck because the world depends on us
I'm the only one missing these ones? The up close and personal approach was just so much more interesting imo. Its like WW2 dogfights vs modern day jet missile stand offs
USS New Mexico
BB-40
12 × 14 in (356 mm)/50 cal guns
14 × 5 in (127 mm)/51 cal guns
8 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 cal guns
Displacement: 32,000 long tons (32,514 t)
Length: 624 ft (190 m)
Beam: 97 ft 5 in (29.69 m)
Draft: 30 ft (9.1 m)
Installed power:
9 × Babcock & Wilcox boilers
27,500 shp (20,500 kW)
Propulsion:
turbo-electric transmission
4 × screws
Speed: 21 kn (24 mph; 39 km/h)
Complement: 1,084 officers and men
Armor:
Belt: 8–13.5 in (203–343 mm)
Barbettes: 13 in (330 mm)
Turret face: 18 in (457 mm)
Turret sides: 9–10 in (229–254 mm)
Turret top: 5 in (127 mm)
Turret rear 9 in (229 mm)
Conning tower: 11.5 in (292 mm)
Decks: 3.5 in (89 mm)
Sure trolling here.. but Clevelands are considered one of the most successful CAs in history. Missles would have been equipped but it made it a little unstable. Only reason it didnt survive into the cold war.
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shiver me timbers
no trolling intended, ill go for mikasa-class then.
thank you for your appreciation
Soviet dreadnought Gangut/Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya
You don't have to sink it, just make the capt. think its going to be captured and he will sink it himself.
There's no point, though. Destroyers are better suited for carrying those, since they're so much more maneuverable. Long range attacks are better carried out via planes and missiles, anyway. Even railguns can only shoot so far. Missiles and jets can give target information from OTH, and CHANGE DIRECTION/TARGETS. Hard to argue with weapon delivery that can maneuver, evade, and talk/listen/see.
Over here we have a dumb projectile. It goes where we tell it once. And over here we have a missile that can not only do that, but it can deliver recon as it does, change to a higher priority target that couldn't be seen by surface search radar, evade countermeasures, etc. Railgun is cool, but I can really only see it being a burden to the ships generators. It's main appeal is to replace a 5" gun with something that can change the output velocity electronically, which removes the need for full shells and powder and offers better accuracy up close while delivering explosive rounds. Hope it doesn't fucking blow a giant capacitor, though.
colorado class, good midsize dreadnought style battleship, not too huge and not too many guns, had a nice aesthetic (especially pre-refit with those cage style masts) despite being outgunned by the best
>tfw you came to post Big Mamie but others beat you to it
Fucking love that ship. I go 3-4 times a year. My great-grandfather was the chief engineer for it's guns at Bath Iron Works.
My unit
We shot a rocket once, are we relavant yet?
Well, Shinano ALMOST got to be a third Yamato-class battleship...until she was poorly converted into an aircraft carrier.
then immediately sunk.
It is still better and more effective to have those same guns on smaller ships that are faster and more efficient (in many respects).
I bet "heavy cruiser" is the furthest we get, but I'll happily call it a battleship and rub 3 or 4 good loads out to it
Current Navy Enlisted, AMA!
I'm an ET, Electrician's Mate so ask me shit about my rate too
I don't know anything about ships so here have a Jackdaw (it's not even a battleship if i recall correctly)
>has a tasty nine 46 cm/45 caliber (18.1 in) guns (the largest guns ever fitted to a warship)
Also some of the largest cannons.... EVER. 8th largest canon to fire explosive shells ever created.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the U.S.S. Michigan
Is that Ian from forgotten weapons.com here at the rock island auction company
Yarrr that's a nice brig there
My father was her XO about 10 years before she went into mothballs for good, so I can't be impartial.
> the battleship no longer has a place in a modern navy
No shit. The Navy hasnt had a new Battleship in the last 70s plus years
What's it like living in a can full of sea men?
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H41 or H44?
I mean as a third class, most e-3s dont even come around. They just clean shit.
Ba dum tiss.
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You don't know shit about submarines.
One of the best armored vessels to sail the oceans. The amount of shells it received from RN cruisers and battleships before it finally went down. Only penetrating hits were from HMS Rodney, rest of the shells basically peppered it to death