Discuss the current corporate overthrow of the U.S. government

Discuss the current corporate overthrow of the U.S. government.

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Current? Just because you realised something is happening doesnt mean it just stsrted. Big business has ruled Washington since Lincolns days in office

I mean current as it is now, dumb fuck. And they didn't rule washington, they just had a lot of lobbyists trying to push for a lot of shit they want, and often got. But now we have a literal brand in the presidency and all his corporate buddies just got assigned to the highest seats in government directly related to their industries.

Now is the true corporate takeover. Everything previous was giant businesses fighting government to get favors, now they own it entirely.

What is happening now in washington is almost exactly the same thing that has been going on for the last 200 years. Your mad at Trump, I get that. He's a shite. But the only thing he is doing different is not giving a fuck about the optics of those appointments.

No, he's a corporate entity that bought a presidency.
Nothing on this scale has ever occurred in this country. It's true that it's been happening at some level since the countries inception, giving rich landowners the ability to hold office and all.
But now, it's the nail in the coffin we have been officially and completely bought and sold.

Oh to be young and blinded by piss and vinegar. Read some political history books, they arent nearly as boring as they sound

Youth, lol, I'm 47 and I majored in political philosophy.
Oh to be so young and petulent, to make such assumptions with the grace of an autist.

And yes, the subject is very interesting.

Funny how people who hate trump usually complain about body shaming, but will still do it to people they don't like

The real wars are now happening in business.
Best arm up.

Funny how people take will take three different individuals thoughts and lump them together as one person, then say that's the type of person that makes up an entire group.

Is this fucking real?

The only real upside is if your are in big business, now's the time to milk the cow while the poor and sick are getting kicked off the teat.

What exactly is that pic saying?

Why is Skype with online stores?

It's the new model for paid internet fast lanes.
About to come true right here in the US.
They're trying to pass it this thanksgiving while noone's looking.

Civil War is on the horizon.
We've seen it before in another country.
Who knows what side will prevail here.

The Onion is one of the few websites that makes fun of everyone. Stop your bitching.

As soon as they can pass this tax bill and cut everyone off the tax pool but large corporations and military, there will be a third quarter deficit so large that it makes me wonder if this a concerted attempt to push us into economic collapse.

imagine paying $5 a month to fucking use steam.
What in the holy fuck.

Morals and ethics win all wars universally
it's also good for business
catering to people's needs and wants, is being politically correct, is business as it should be.
the righteous will succeed and the others will be shamed

I really don't understand what is going on. Starting to think the Russian thing goes further than previously thought. The destabilization is pretty intense. But maybe that's a distraction and I'm exaggerating. All the social unrest and a government making decisions that hinder its people. idk pretty fucked up.

The self righteous will succeed, the rest will serve them.

>it seems that way for now

But eventually the needs of the many will overthrow the wants of the few.
The motivation builds slow but it builds all the same.

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With transparency done right there is no reason to not to input aspects of communism at least at the poorest levels of society. Shouldn't we work for ourselves and our neighbors instead of working for giant banks and corporations?
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The more I think about it the more it looks like everything is happening exactly how Putin would like it to. If we fall he's next in line to control everything that we've got bases on. He's already been given Syria back, Ukraine is about to be his again, and Trump has always publically buddied up to him, with huge real estate ventures in Moscow apparently already lined up.

Large corporations don't need America, if we fall they move along and their foreign currencies will skyrocket. A lot of rich and powerful people all over the world stand to benefit from America's collapse. I'm just hoping I'm experiencing some kind of extreme bias and all these connections are just coincidence.

Might as well wait for this guy.

That's how America did work until the Federal bank was created.
Which isn't a government entity, it's literally called federal to swoon people into thinking they have some say over it.
Just a collection of private banks that the government is not allowed to oversee.

Jefferson warned us that allowing a central bank into the US would destroy us, but we did it anyway.

OP is either a tard or an autist, the current administration and corpoations are nothing but bust buddies. That's a fact.

The current administration IS those corporations.

I hope that's all it is. As long as it doesn't end up with blood in the streets. The corporations are already moving to China but I think the banks will stay here to bleed us dry. Hopefully that doesn't spark civil war. Maybe the Democrats can pull us together. I use to lean republican but beyond the cring socialism/communism may be the only way out of this. I hope we don't have to suffer the social side effects of past uprisings.

It's been written so many times before.

Isn't it strange? I always heard about how easy it is to repeat history, and as much as I understood I thought the histories we repeat would be something odd or unusual because we had advanced so far. Now we literally have Nazis protesting on our soil and a central bank raping the coffers. I never imagined we would literally repeat plain as day historical moments.

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"Current"?

The bankers overthrew the US government in 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), and they've treated all Americans as their slaves ever since.

And as an earlier user said , the bankers controlled the US government long before that - for example, through their tool Abraham Lincoln, who to ensure the South's continued payment of tariffs to fund the banker-dominated North sent the entire nation to war, killing or wounding between 1-2 million Americans.

Hang the goddamn bankers and the whole planet will be better off.

no your not.

first as tragedy, second as farce

I agree with this. Said as much here:

Be prepared. I guess. Not much we can do.
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I like how they took Americas knowledge of the crooked banks and used it against them.
"We'll stop the banks and drain the swamp"
"Yaaaay!"
And then we willingly handed them the whole damn thing.

Fucking Hamilton.

I can appreciate the attitude, but when you have kids your whole perspective on the subject is a lot more distressing.
It's easy to die when you're young, when you have offspring depending on you to be alive, the impetus feels much worse.

the majority of people voted for Clinton
The electoral college broke.

the electoral college was already broke, they figured out how to gerrymander the shit out of the districts as well as fuel a classic propaganda campaign.
The electoral college has a purpose, but it's so easily abused. The separation of powers debate really opened my eyes to why we have it, and it's a very difficult argument for or against it.

it's simple you can't rank 350 million peoples value.
the safest solution is to make it so everyone has an equal vote.

The majority of people voted for Bernie, or would have if the Party hadn't systematically prevented them from doing so through mis-provisioning.
The Democrat Party broke.

I plan to teach my boy (2) and girl (1) how to fend for themselves. We do not live in extravagance now and I never plan to. We will be among the first affected and I have basic amenity skills down. Minimalists at the grocery store and tools to survive. I'm not a prepper but I don't plan to need a handout to live. We are by no means "poor".

>the majority of people voted for Clinton
the majority of people voted for Sanders...

To say it's simple means you don't understand the argument.
And that's not an insult, it's something they don't teach in school and has to be looked up and studied. There's a reason we have representatives all the way from the electorate to the president, and that purpose was completely bypassed and used against itself in this election.

Don't get me started on how now Hamilton is being fed to people as some kind of hip-hip hero.

There's a reason that traitor has a statue in front of the Treasury.

Political campaigning should be illegal. Not only is it annoying it's just lies and based on contribution not morals or ethic. Some state needs to do this already.

I work in the HVAC trade, so I'm too worried about finding work and I've hunted and camped all my life. I'm trying to impress these things upon my kids (two boys, 11 and 12).

if you use steam you shouldnt be a trashcan with this internet you should have a internet plan already

It's fucking disgusting how people have been taught to love and respect the federal reserve like it's there for them.

I may not have studied the electoral college but I know what I don't know.

What i don't know is what everyone is thinking all the goddamn time. Nobody does.
Read what I wrote.
Nobody knows for sure the TRUE ranking of everyone's value hence cannot rank them in order of what their vote should count. ANY system in today's technology that says it can is false.

It's not important to know everything yet
but it is important to know what you don't know.
common sense retard

Seething right there with ya, Sup Forumsro.

>it's not stupid, it's advanced
The argument is nothing more than opinions of the ruling class in the first place. It boils down to imaginary friends are more important than people.
That's not advanced, it's stupid.

That depends on how much bandwidth Cox will allow for steam, and how much I have to pay for faster speed and/or higher data cap.

That's exactly why we have a representative electorate.

And of course I don't know everything, I just know the subject hence why I started the thread. I know what I don't know, I read Socrates and Plato.

>the majority of people voted for
The United States never would have formed at all had the voting been by simple majority. The smaller states would never have been imbecilic enough to agree to forming a Union where the larger states would always be able to control them just because those other states had larger cities.

The electoral college did *exactly what it was intended to do*.

Does that representative electorate specifically know the value of everyone's thoughts, words, actions?
>No?
Than it's false.

Regulate the hell out of it under any other truth-in-advertising law, and it will go away.

No, shill, it's the excuse for why we have a representative electorate. The real reason has and will always be that the ruling class would prefer to rule invisibly.

it can't. You're talking about the impossible, which is moot. The electorate was established to balance the vote between large states and rural Americans so one group didn't get the say so every election.

I thought for Socrates
I spoke poetry for Shakespeare
I composed music for Beethoven
I 've saved the Earth 4 times just in this lifetime
I've written 1000 hit songs, Frozen and all it's music.
Don't be mad
be real.

Then it never should have formed in the first place.
So fucking what? Something else would have formed instead. Literally nothing to cry over.

The USA formed because I said it could.

No, it was established to preserve the rights of property owners so that they DID get the say-so in every election.
Stop being a disingenuous shill for high-school history, m8. It's a myth based on a true story.

Ahh, found the angsty all knowing youth we were talking about earlier.

the vast spread of peoples is beyond one major group
>common sense should always rule the day

>representative electorate.
This was established in a time when is wasn't plausible to have every single person vote. When voters literally traveled by horse and buggy to represent an amount of people. The constitution needs rewritten. And rewritten again in 300 years... preferably less.

You mean give hillbilly retards 8x the voting power as I have? good system

I agree to an extent. The electorate is obviously flawed, and politicians knowingly played with that a lot. Now it's biting them all in the ass and they don't know what to do except glom onto whoever they think will come out on top.

Literally read Zinn you corporate shill.

Why am I the corporate shill? I started this thread to talk about corporate shills overthrowing the government.

Wait... are you a corporate shill??

Dude, relax.

No one here is a corporate shill
some of them may be military though
Australian military
and NSA is probably lurking
others may gather

I'm the reason
the season
it's Christmas
spend your saved money on alcohol this year
have no regrets.

The first is a product of how the votes were counted.
The second is a product of how the votes are counted.
Some system of national plebiscites are the only way the people will get a fair shake. Anything else suffers from the principal-agent problem.
>inb4 but brexit
If remainers hadn't used such shitty bait to try to shame people into voting remain, that wouldn't have been a problem. People just want pundits to stfu and go away.

Afraid not, but it's obviously easy to corrupt a single city than to corrupt everyone everywhere over a geographically large area.

Anyway, it was a good discussion gentlemen. hopefully we all walk away with something to think about, I know I am.

Fair points.


I'm off to work, Have a good morning, gentlemen.

No, it'a a mock-up warning people about what they think the internet will be like after net neutrality is repealed

>But the only thing he is doing different is not giving a fuck about the optics of those appointments.
>H-he's totally not worse than the others

Trump is a joke, and the entire planet is laughing at the US and how dumb you all are. At least your military is good at killing people.

No, but the one in Portuguese just a few down is.

Cheers

I think it's just regular old incompetence and short sightedness. Republicans are pushing for their one solution to almost literally every single problem: Tax cuts. They probably don't think the negative effects will happen, or happen soon enough for them to care, or happen so much that they can't just buy some sweeter Air Conditioning with their bribes.

>Civil War is on the horizon.

At least it will be over quickly.

Which is literally refreshing. People no longer wish to be condescended to, which is good, and are apparently willing to settle for the impression of not being condescended to, which is bad.

It's their way of privatizing the government. The other party is happy enough to nakedly rule on behalf of the ownership class.

>Memes aren't real.

OK, Snowflake.

I'm an armed liberal american and all liberal Americans I know personally believe in the 2nd amendment, and practice it.

You're propaganda fueled meme knowledge means nothing. 200 million moderate liberal amercans stand next to 150 million moderate coservatives as one against any stupid civil war. If it ever happens it will between two handfulls of extremist idiots and be over in a day because one side is too fat and diabetes ridden to move off their dead hoveround and the other will probably just scream at you a lot.

The rest of America shakes our head in utter disbelief and complete embarrassment at your behavior as human beings.

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>OK, Snowflake.
It seems as if all you have to say are baiting cliches. If you are going to fight for the right of JP Morgan and the federal reserve to keep you as a slave who am I to stop you. With your intelligence I'm sure you are a self-proclaimed republican living in a trailer in some ghetto hoarding the few pennies thrown to you.

It's like a bunch of actual fucking niggers moved into the whitehouse and another bunch of niggers are going apeshit about it.

And the rest of evolved humanity is just watching all these dumb fucking blue gummed niggers tear everything down around us.

Just a fucking zoo in this place, bana peels and shit everywhere. Fuck, man, c'mon.

It's good to have these people. They will be the downfall of the white guard.

OK, Snowflake.

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Watch this, OP.

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