Any submissive straight guys here? Not just fetishists, but actually submissive sexually and possibly even socially.
Has anyone dated a dominant or a neutral woman? What was that like?
What could be the biological explaination for sub guys/ dom women?
In his book "The way of the superior man", David Deida among other things talks about masculine and feminine polarity and how attraction works. He says that people are attracted to the polar opposite of themselves, regardless of their sex or sexuality. This would mean that if you are a moderately dominant man, you would mostly be attracted to moderately submissive women. He also says that the people in the middle don't have any strong polarity and can't have amazing sex, like polarized couples can.
He also mentions that around 80% of men are masculine (dominant), 10% are neutral and 10% feminine. The reverse is true for women.
I myself seem to be moderately masculine in my personality and worldly desires, but weirdly enough, I most often want to submit sexually.
Are any of you guys like this and what do you think?
In all seriousness, good for you. Love what you love, and fuck in the way you want to fuck. Go nuts!
Leo Phillips
It's so rare to find a genuinely supportive and life affirming post. Kudos dude, and may you be happy.
Dominic White
>I found the sissy! Lol, not really like that. >In all seriousness, good for you. Love what you love, and fuck in the way you want to fuck. Go nuts! Thanks, that sounds so nice. Have you spent so much time on Sup Forums that you actually got enlightened?
Chase Ramirez
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Michael Price
just bumping for more of these pics
goddamn i love soft femdom
Anthony Nguyen
Me 2, m8.
Isaac Richardson
>Any submissive straight guys here? Yup >Not just fetishists, but actually submissive sexually and possibly even socially. Only sexually, I tend to be dominant in usual relationships >Has anyone dated a dominant or a neutral woman? yes, sexually dominant. It was a crazy turn on Coming into my room and having sex with me when she wanted. Pushing me down on the bed riding me whilst holding down my hands. >What could be the biological explaination for sub guys/ dom women? Who gives a shit. just enjoy what you enjoy.
Chase Powell
>Neutralfag reporting in Haven't read the book, but what you're describing moves past the normal scope of attraction/dating and into the realm of sexual taboo and fetishism. At some point, whether it was from a particular event or a gradual buildup of sexual repression, a switch got flipped in your brain where you started feeling greater sexual gratification by yielding control and letting go rather than conforming to the standard roles your brain is used to carrying out in your normal day-to-day life. It's not super uncommon actually, but almost all sexual studies/statistics are self reported so they can't really be believed.
>Sidenote He's wrong about neutrals not being able to have great sex though; neutrals can adopt either dominant or submissive roles as need be with compatible people, they just lack the ability to be extreme on either end leaving sexual relationships with those on far poles lacking.
Christian Garcia
>Only sexually, I tend to be dominant in usual relationships Yeah, me too. >yes, sexually dominant It's strange that personality and sexuality could be unaligned in such a way. >Who gives a shit. just enjoy what you enjoy. I care. I like to analyse and know myself. Sexual dominance/submissiveness tends to translate into other things too, or so they say.
Joshua Hernandez
>what you're describing moves past the normal scope of attraction/dating and into the realm of sexual taboo and fetishism I have to correct you here, it absolutely does not.
He talks about this in the beginning of the book, explaining that this book is meant for people with naturally masculine sexual essences. This means both sexually and worldly. He then says that the reason he uses the word "man" in the title and most of the book, is mostly for simplicity reasons.
>At some point, whether it was from a particular event or a gradual buildup of sexual repression, a switch got flipped in your brain Doesn't seem to be so in my experience. I think I was like this even in childhood. When I was a kid, I knew nothing about women and I thought that this submissive behaviour I want to display was something women would love. I actually thought it was a great thing to do and that grown men are missing something. Of course, later I discovered that most women would be repulsed by it, but those who do like it exist.
>they just lack the ability to be extreme In the book he talks about sex on a spiritual level, about deep ravishing and stuff like that. It's an interesting idea, at least.
Jackson Gomez
Bump
Oliver Davis
I've heard of alpha male types can be very submissive and into BDSM. They're used to people kissing their asses all day long that they want someone to stand up and make them beg.
Nathan Evans
I've done somd research on these topics and I would definitely say these are "artificial alpha males".
Let me explain. They are guys who don't feel and don't want to be alpha deep down, bit external influences through life made them like this. A classic example would be a guy that had a very alpha dad and he became like him, thinking this is what every man should be.
Colton Collins
>warning: armchair psychology
Jordan Carter
Sauce please, i would fucking like that to happen to me
William Morgan
Femdom is the godsend of fetishes.
Tyler Peterson
shows what you know, I don't even own an armchair
Julian Perry
Straight sub guy here. (Well, there are certain types of guys I might switch with. As long as the other person is a woman or a feminine man I'd sub.)
I've never dated anyone, but I'd like to. I would really like to date a dominant woman, wew...
I'd prefer it more gentle and with actual heart, not like the hateful abuse in shitty porn videos. I suppose I'm socially submissive, but really not socially active at all.
Ethan Perry
Don't be like that. I just read stuff and compare it to my personal experiences. I assume that if I'm like that, there must be other people like that too, since I'm not that unusual.
There is no real scientific research on this topic, what else could we do?
Jaxon Robinson
>Gentle and with actual heart I see you're a man of culture as well, user.
Wyatt Johnson
I like to suck my wife's tits while she holds me. Not sure if that's sub or not
Ayden Collins
That means you have a baby fetish, fella. It's a little on the sub side.
Christopher Brown
>I'd prefer it more gentle and with actual heart, not like the hateful abuse in shitty porn videos. Agree 100%. I want that too. >I suppose I'm socially submissive I'm starting to think I am too. I think I've created too many layers of dominance and masculinity, because that is all I ever knew, but I think that my core actually might be feminine/submissive.
I have a weird story about this: Even though I'm straight, I've once had a best friend who basically ended up treating me like a girlfriend or something.
The reason for this is that he is very dominant and he sort of gave me a taste of what I'm repressing, I guess.
I became very submissive and started acting more feminine around him. It was a really weird dynamic that got me to question my sexuality. Later I've realised that I don't like his masculine body at all and that the whole joy came from me being able to let go and be led for the first time. This was long time ago.
I'm not sure how I feel about all this. I've started to realise this in the last couple of days.
Hunter Roberts
Usually your fetishes end up being fully on one side, so they can be hints to your true desires.
Julian Perry
Didn't know that until now. Thanks, user.
Michael Long
I mean, this is the asshole of the internet so..
Brayden Martinez
I'm naturally submissive, but none of my girlfriends have been dominant, so I've been having to play the role of Dom. Gets boring, ya know?
Tyler Lee
What are your biggest fetishes?
Dylan Mitchell
What the fug, that image doesn't sound fun
Lucas Fisher
I'm a pretty good looking 24 year old dude. I dated a pretty dominant bisexual girl a few years ago. Was pretty good to start with coz she was gorgeous, taller than me with bright blue eyes and a total sexual freak.
She really loved to blindfold me and handcuff me to the bed and finger my assignment and jerk me off and/or sit on my face and grind and dirty talk me. I loved it but I think after a year she kinda got bored and I think we both started cheating and then she left me for a fling with a musician.
She was kind of slightly controlling in the relationship as well... Her mother was a complete Sargent as well.
Angel Kelly
If you don't understand and accept yourself truly, it gets far more than boring. It can fuck with your psyche on so many levels.
I guess you do understand and accept, so this doesn't apply to you.
We should do some research on how to spot dominant women in public, without even looking too much.
On the other hand, a lot of them are probably repressed because they don't know any better.
Kevin Robinson
Lol, why did she get bored?
Leo Hernandez
I'm pretty submissive, so femdom. I like being tied up/ held against my will, so bondage. And that's about it, user.
Henry Murphy
I dunno man we were both like 20 and living on a university campus and I think both of us were just more interested in other people after a certain point.....also towards the end she and her mother were saying to me she's got anxiety issues and needs space etc etc, and she was pretty crazy at times so I dunno... I got over that one pretty quick because although she was stunning and a sex god, she could be quite callous, manipulative and had a superiority complex.
Easton Lopez
Ok, I get it now. That was some crazy shit.
Parker Miller
>I'm pretty submissive Oh, I thought you weren't sure about that.
Ryder Richardson
Oh shit, you got me there, user.
Bentley Gutierrez
How do you feel about cuckolding?
Jacob Collins
>being sub >being whipped
modern man can't tell the difference, it's easy as fuck to get whipped
Bentley Green
I...really don't know how to feel about cuckolding, user.
Elaborate more please. Does it turn you on? Any variations of it?
Asher Howard
I don't really find any variations of cuckolding hot. I know it's femdom in a way, but it's too harsh for me.
Brandon Allen
I started enjoying it 5 or 6 months ago, but it started because of extreme porn addiction and fetish escalation.
I relapsed on NoFap yesterday. I still haven't started a new streak, that's why I allow myself to visit Sup Forums.
Josiah Kelly
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Isaiah Cooper
something that might interest you, OP
Anthony Lopez
It does indeed, thanks.
Brayden Phillips
I would go as far as to let my woman choose who's baby she wants to carry. It is her body afterall. The baby would be our own, no matter who's genes it carries.
Cameron Thompson
All you faggots have mommy issues.
Elijah Thompson
Straight up false. I have a great relationship with both my parents. You are ignorant as fuck.
Wyatt Jenkins
I've been a lifestyle sub in a bdsm relationship with my girlfriend for almost 4 years now.
>What could be the biological explanation for sub guys/ dom women?
I don't believe there's a biological reason behind it. If anything, it probably has more to do with upbringing and your environment. I'll admit that I've known a lot of people in the scene who didn't have the best childhood and use various kinks as sort of a coping mechanism (this is very much true for my friends who are into the "littles" fetish). But that's not entirely true 100% of the time.
Overall for me, I just enjoy the taboo-ness of being a sub. I also enjoy making people happy. So being able to make my dom happy and serve her as much as possible keeps our relationship both fresh and fun.
Landon Foster
That's an interesting story, but I can't relate to it. I guess we are different and there's nothing wrong with that.
Nolan Campbell
Also, I think that the submissiveness itself is innate, but fetishes around it may be caused by external influences.
Nicholas Barnes
Have you had a girlfriend before?
Carson Hill
Yeah.
Tyler Baker
Submissive bi guy here. I haven't been with a woman yet cause its easier to find dominant guys and also I still spaghetti everywhere with girls. Would be nice though.
Adrian Reyes
I always feel bad about being submissive. I'm in a pretty vanilla relationship myself and I can't complain at all, she's an absolute sweetheart, but sexually I just like being submissive and told what to do.
It's almost like a curse, it's the only sort of porn I fap to, I just can't get it out of my head.
Now I'm not sure whether I should just fully embrace that I'm a sub, or whether i should restrain myself and try to become more of a dominant person.
Levi Cox
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Oliver Hall
>I'm in a pretty vanilla relationship
I've been in vanilla relationships before and to be honest... After getting into a full time bdsm relationship, I'd rather be single than go back to a vanilla relationship. There's just too much missing from the relationship for me to be able to enjoy it.
It's not exactly the most pleasant thought, but going after someone you're truly compatible with is worth all the struggle it takes.
Nolan Nguyen
>Now I'm not sure whether I should just fully embrace that I'm a sub, or whether i should restrain myself and try to become more of a dominant person. You are submissive at your core. Your core is what you truly desire. You can change your personality in any way you like and succeed at it. However, you will never be fulfilled because you rejected your core and therefore yourself. You will always feel like you are not good enough, because that's how you treat yourself. Good luck with that.
Charles Fisher
This is bot a BDSM thread. We are talking about natural submissiveness of letting a woman lead, make descisions and lovingly dominate in sex.
Ian Brown
That's what I fear. I'd like to open up to my girlfriend about it but I'm not sure how she would take it.
Liam Collins
Here: youtu.be/Mcr6-Nn9nj8 A video by a woman about how you can influence your girl to become more dominant.
She is right about the methods, it will make her outer personality more dominant, but she will lose touch with her core.
This way you would transfer this burden on her.
Obviously, I don't know what you should do, but here's something to consider.
Zachary Young
>Any submissive straight guys here? I guess so. >Not just fetishists, but actually submissive sexually and possibly even socially. I tried things sexually ^^. Socially though, I'm alpha af. >What was that like, dating a dom or neutral woman? Well I had a fwb she was kinda awkward kinda sub socially but in bed... XD I don't know why I didn't date her though do you think I should have?
Pic related
Aiden Cruz
Lol, where are the nudes?
Noah White
Fuck i can be dominant in the bedroom but would prefer to be submissive girls i have been with found it werid when i tired to be sub
Kayden Butler
Lol, roll dubz and you just might ^^
Matthew Robinson
You just did.
Jaxson Thompson
Same. To be honest, the dom guys I find aren't very good at sex and the only dom girl I met was super religious and we didn't get along well :/
Jeremiah Myers
Same. The only dom girl Ive ever been with was just straightup aggressive though, and that wasnt too great.
Joshua White
>elaborate its easy for guys to get abused by girls in their first relationships without realizing it, that's not love it's control I would be wary of anyone looking for a "dominant" girl they're more common than you think
Elijah Davis
Yeah, that's no good. Dominant and loving all the way.
Evan Phillips
How common do you think they are? I would say 1/10.
Tyler Nguyen
Bout tree in fiddy.
Austin Campbell
^^
Anthony Nelson
Cute. You should've submitted to her.
Anthony White
Oh, and moar btw.
Julian Campbell
3/4 of my bros have this problem
John Bell
Dom in the streets, sub in the sheets. I like to think I'm the model of masculinity, even if it might be peacocking in some cases. I'm big and strong, always decide where we're going, when and what we're doing when we get there, etc. Well-paid job and masculine hobbies like whittling and hitting an engine with a wrench. But I crave being able to submit and show a vulnerable side to someone who will nurture and forgive the vulnerability.
It is a total idiosyncrasy and very hard to fulfill.
Cooper James
What problem?
Anthony Rodriguez
I don't know what to say to this.
Could it be that you're truly a sub, but your life and role models shaped ypur outer layers of masculinity in this way, while your sexuality doesn't lie? Just some food for thought, this is what I'm trying to figure out about myself too.
Aaron James
abusive girls
Daniel Davis
You're a spike that needs a rarity kek
Owen Bell
Well, on the bright side, experiencing it will teach you to recognize and avoid it.
Noah Hernandez
There are dubz what can I say ^^ You think so? she fucked my ass you know ^^
Aaron Fisher
"True Switch" here. I get equal amounts of sexual and lifestyle gratifications from either.
My gf is a true sub and a little so I don't get to sub much. He tries, but her heart isn't into it so it just feel kinda hollow.
We've discussed adding a dominant playmate as I've expressed that I feel like half of my life is missing.
Nathan Lopez
Kek, I'm not into the whole ass thing.
Xavier Lee
This reminds me of the quagmire scene during the family guy Christmas song
Elijah Bennett
I like the premise, but it's not very well written.
Liam Lee
Was kinda nice, if done slowly and smoothly, it's really good
Isaiah Richardson
Nice. I guess it would be worth a shot.
Luke Howard
>masculine = dominant Not true
>masculine=more aggressive True
Joshua Wilson
>bioLOGical
Kevin Moore
Interesting. So you're saying that it's possible to be very masculine and very submissive at the same time?
Michael Carter
read again
Aaron Cruz
Good ol' Andy.
Asher Harris
I was trying to get you to elaborate more, but I guess I should be more direct.
Grayson Turner
imho, masculinity is NOT linked to dominance but to aggression.
is that understood?
Dylan Carter
I met a girl who would choke me all the time while she was riding me. Made me cum really quick think she got off on it. She cucked me on my birthday cause she thought I'd be into it but it pissed me off and I kicked her out. Asked me if she could fuck me with a strap on later I said no but thinking back I should have let her