DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2 AND WESTERN PROPAGANDA DURING THE COLD WAR REWROTE HISTORY TO SEEM LIKE THE USA...

DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2 AND WESTERN PROPAGANDA DURING THE COLD WAR REWROTE HISTORY TO SEEM LIKE THE USA DID.
IN FACT WW2 WAS A SOVIET - NAZI CONFLICT WITH SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS

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>DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2
most people who read a history book know this, chill out

Only burgers deny that, fuckwad. It still doesn't make the Soviets right.

Bu shieeee
Korea numba wun

>SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS

>Second Sino-Japanese War
>peripheral front
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The US didn't save Europe from the Nazis, they saved Europe from the Soviets.

Yeah because their manufacturing and infrastructure just appeared magically and they never had any help from the evil capitalists at the US
Russian blood
British Intelligence
US manufacturing

And it proved that fascism (capitalism in decay) is for losers, and socialism is the way of the future.

>DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SOVIETS WON WW2

... with US armaments and supplies

when will people realize that the only reason they SURVIVED was because murica gave them shit loads of funds

the WINTER stopped the Wehrmacht the Red Army was in ruins Germany would have taken Moscow the following summer had the US not attacked, also if the US did not give oil,food and weapons to the Red Army they would have been useless.

And now you know jelly eurofags

>when will people realize that the only reason they SURVIVED was because murica gave them shit loads of funds
When america stops overplaying D-Day

I just wanted to post a busty soviet sniper to be honest.

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History is written by the victors

Anyone that knows WWII history knows this.

how can you be sure her numbers are real and not
a product of soviet propaganda

I'm pretty sure that's a man.

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Daily reminder that they also won the ideological war.

sorry but mainly food. sorry amerifat.

Real historians don't though I'm not a historian I just am aware that Germany had what like 70% of its resources on the east? Soo yea

I heard about some research the other day that suggested words written in all caps are significantly harder to read than words written normally. Can't recall the source, unfortunately.

>amphibious assaults
>easy

Nah

It was more like 80 or ninety percent

come on, stop with that shit. you just have to read /pol to see that nazi's propaganda is still working

literally babbys first muh reel histry

False :)

Soviet willingly pulled out of Norway because not enough popular support. Even when they were offered Northern-Norway (GB and the US was afraid they would take all of Norway).

I would guess this was the case in all the countries they got control over when they pushed back the Nazis.

Exaggerated. And even if, Blood > Everything else. Nobody is saying that they did it alone. It's just a fact that they did most of the job, by far.

So not a relevant argument.

Exaggerated, the military production of the USSR took Germany by surprise.

This. I'm no historian but I know the ruskies got major help at Kursk because the Brits were able to decode Enigma and knew where the Germans were be and stuff. Also Lend-lease help the ruskies a lot too but of course they won't admit that because "muh soviets won ww2" myth

oh shite, boland, russia hate thread?

thats reasonable

The Soviets could not feed themselves or move a platoon one mile without US support. Soviets were like the infantry and US was logistics and supply.

>muh soviets won ww2

The point is that the Soviet contributed and sacrificed the most against the Nazis. Not that they did it completely alone.

Hayha got 500 Soviets in 100 days, 300 Helmuts in 4 years do not seem that undrealistic

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Literally the title of the thread is soviets won ww2

>the ruskies did a lot

They could barely strategically bomb Germany because the russian air force was shit and only effective near the ground like the il-2. Also Germany lost precious manpower and resources by failing in North Africa

also better strategy. But wermacht-fan will never accept it.

nah I'll let them pass this time

If by the doing the most means throwing human meat waves at the Nazis and shooting anyone who took a step back then of course they did a lot

Blood is worthless without iron behind it.
The Zulu learned this lesson at Rourke's Drift and you would be wise to heed their example.

exagerated. read real books, not manstein's memories.

>Strategic bombing
>Not far less relevant than CAS

>He wuz a good boy he dindu nuffin

Typical Russian logic, that 'good' boy would've raped babies, elders, and German farm animals

germans did it first

They couldn't bomb Germany strategically at all. There's a reason you can't name a single Soviet heavy bomber from the period without consulting Google.

It's like anime character backstory.

Same can be said about the German soldier.

The only thing the Soviets were good at was dying a lot

no big bombers. But rupture's artillery

>had the US not attacked
Not attacked who? D-Day happened in 1944, when it became obvious who was going to win.

because logistics don't matter amirite?

Soviets were economically helped by US.

>strategic bombing
>not relevant for WWII

wat

Yes, but I think it's pretty clear that it's implied that they did most of the job.

I am not saying that Soviet would have won alone. It's just pretty clear that they did most of the job. Contributed the most. Sacrificed the most.

Not really, they thought Hitler would wait until 1943 before he attacked (because they did not think Hitler was stupid enough to attack before having control over Western-Europe)/Africa. As History showed, everything turned around 1943.

Your point is? Like 90% of German soldiers killed, were killed by the Soviet Union. And the meat wave tactics are also exaggerated. "Every second soldier had a gun".

Yeah, but 1. The outside help they got are exaggerated. 2. Like 90% of German soldiers killed were by the Soviets.

Sure, it helped. Probably saved millions of lives. Hadn't the Cold War existed, the USSR would act gratefully, just as the world would towards the USSR.

Also the USSR had moved much of the production behind the Ural mountains, so the Germans were never really close. Maybe with a weaker leader than Stalin they could have won on capitulation.

And killing German soldiers

>Fascism
>Capitalism

Pick one

Sssh, don't say that out loud. We wouldn't want the glorious soviet to know he had aid from evil, corrupt capitalist

Although I'm not going to deny that American help via land lease was a big thing.

>Fascism Not a degenerate form of Capitalism.

Yes it was, but what Americans find it hard to believe, is that the USSR contributed by a lot more than any other.

The US saved nobody actually. The US has been a Zog for over 200 years. The Communists (Khazar Jews) beat the Nazis.

NAPOLEON IS A FAG AND SO IS OP KILLLL URSELLLVESSS

my american history teacher told us yesterday, no one was surprised, you're an idiot

agreed.

About strategy i was thinking about their their military operations.

DAILY REMINDER THAT PEOPLE WHO TYPE LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. IN FACT YOU COME ACROSS AS RETARDED WHEN YOU DO IT

why so mad

Soviet Deep Battle was actually better than blitzkrieg

As much as it pains me the Nazi's lost that war, I get a warm fussy feeling about those pictures of the Allied soldiers and the Soviet soldiers hugging and shaking hands at the end of the war in Berlin.

Just imagining being those young guys fighting in a foreign land finally told it's over and you get to go home.

>Soviets were economically helped by US.

Your mother is getting economically helped right now if you know what I mean.

yep.
Also the word blitzkrieg didn't exist during the war. lul

I should myself clearer of the human meat wave charge. I don't even mean actual waves of men rushing into machine gun fire but even the 'glorious' t34 was a metal coffin that the shittest German tank could pierce right through its 'amazing' sloped armor

>The Ferdinand may have been the most successful tank destroyer employed during the war in kills per loss, reaching an average ratio of approximately 10:1. During the Battle of Kursk the 653rd Heavy Tank Destroyer Battalion (German: schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung, sPzJägAbt) claimed to have knocked out 320 enemy tanks, for the loss of 13 Ferdinands.[1] This impressive average ratio was due to its extreme firepower and protection, which gave it an enormous advantage when used in head-on combat or a static defensive role. However, poor mobility and mechanical unreliability greatly diminished its operational capability.

Again i'm historian but I know the Soviet tanks were garbage that had poor optics, no radios, and terrible conditions for the crews but everybody these days thinks the t-34 is the greatest tank ever made thanks to World of Tanks

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I have nothing to say to this, I just want to find out my Jew name.

"historian"

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Patton

It was their tanks bro, their fucking tanks.
While they were churning out almost a thousand a month out of tractor factories the delusional fuhrer was churning out a tiny amount of tiger tanks which broke down every ten km and investing money in useless shit like the Maus.

Also the japs were more scared of the Russians than the americans and actually offered up terms of surrender to the americans before the nukes were even dropped which the americans rejected.

Those filthy slavic rapist pigs did most of the leg work and america stole all of the glory but at least the american military operated under a morale banner.

>WW2 WAS A SOVIET - NAZI CONFLICT WITH SOME SECONDARY PERIPHERAL FRONTS

This is going to come as a surprise to China, the Philippines, Japan and the residents of Hawaii -- among other Pacific Rim peoples.

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Weren't we using Blitzkreig when dealing with japs in Manchuria?

> Exaggerated, the military production of the USSR took Germany by surprise.

That it did but if it truly was the bee's knees they wouldn't have needed lend lease. Let's not forget up until Stalingrad turned in their favor, he was ready to duck dick for second European front.

"their tanks" is the typical argument from people who know nothing about soviets strategy.
German army is overrated.

Really? Where do you have that from?

I can't deny that, but what is the source of your greentext?

The only reason the USSR disbanded was because the original mission of the Bolshevik Jewish founders to Judaize the world and gain global control via financial domination with Russia as another war factory bulwark to destroy Europe, was completed.

Anyone who seriously looks at America in the first half of its lifespan -- fairly racist and in line with NS Germany, eugenics, miscegenation laws -- and then toward disbandment of the USSR -- pro-Jewish, pro-race mixing, communistic "equality of outcome" -- will see that the original mission was fulfilled, and the protocols of Zion book was realized.

It's hard to realize you were born into a poisonous garden, when you never knew what it was like to live in the healthy one for even a day.

>Let's not forget up until Stalingrad turned in their favor, he was ready to duck dick for second European front.
Who?

Soviets won on the front, but the Jews are the ultimate winners

>Jews could cattle a million of any race and slaughter them right now
>oy vey, don't forgot the holocaust, you're not a Nazi, are you? of course not goy, no one forgets the 7 gorillion

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant

achtungpanzer.com/panzerjager-tiger-ferdinand-elephant.htm

Based U.S. education in western Europe, along with the omnipresence of our films and whatnot, did its job well.

21 soviet casualties per US death roll

It was more in the lines of a pincer movement

Which wasn't opened up until 1944. It's almost looks like our allies tried their best to do as little as they can. There was literally no good reason for waiting for so long before opening it.

For the prize of developing heavy bombers, long range escort fighters, effective bombing doctrine etc.? No, there were more efficient ways to spend resouces than bombing German civilians far away, like building CAS to destroy German panzers.

Soviets would be dumb if they decided to build force capable of bombing German cities.

Why the fuck isn't she my wife for life already ? Any reasons I should avoid killing myself because of the fact she's long gone ?

>The only reason the USSR disbanded was because

I'm quite sure it was because they realized they could sell public assets to their own friends facing next to no opposition and living the high life but tell me more about your jewish conspiracies.

Thanks

ayy lmao what the fuck france

There was no actual communists in USSR after the death of stalin. He was a fucked up person, but he believed in idea. Those who came after him were just retards who thought communism is about having two cars in a family (literally words of Khrushchev).

If you have to do a daily reminder, you might consider that people don't care what you're saying.

That was icing on the cake.

I'm talking more about the original reason the Bolshevik's even made the original push, who they were, where they came from (Wall Street Jewry funded), who these people were that slaughtered the Romanov's.

Of course there were deviations from time to time, Stalin was a force of nature who the big Jews probably would've rather seen Trotsky win instead, but in the end, Stalin didn't deviate too much from the original mission: destroy Europe, bolshevize the last bastion of resistance to global Jewry.

Every place on earth today that is considered previously "Western" is a liberal humanistic, globalistic in policy, anti-racist, pro-miscegenation shithole, with Jews in privileged positions (look at their percentages of acceptance in Ivy Leagues).

You overdose them redpolls, leaf